CoS + ITD?

[Ferrous]

Question here - how does a combination of CoS and ITD work? ITD negates all defenses, and CoS lowers it. Does that mean that theoretically, a monster that is struck by an ITD item while CoS is on means that they have a negative defense? Or would defense just be negated to 0?

[BIGeyedBUG]

There is a sanity check that effectively prevents defence from going below zero. Note that ITD doesn't reduce all defence to zero--at the very least, players, mercs, minions, act bosses, and some superuniques are unaffected by it. So CoS would still be handy for those targets.

[Ferrous]

nevermind the other uses of CoS anyhow. I still think it'd be cool to have negative defense....kind of like negative resistances.

[ilkori]

I think of it this way: Cloak of Shadows reduces their defense by a percentage of base defense. (Always, for everyone.) If ITD is on the character, then a check is made to see whether the calculated defense is used, or a value of zero.

Although, like BeB said, there is also a sanity check that will never let you lower defense below zero by any other means.

[Lunatic]

There is a sanity check that effectively prevents defence from going below zero. Note that ITD doesn't reduce all defence to zero--at the very least, players, mercs, minions, act bosses, and some superuniques are unaffected by it. So CoS would still be handy for those targets.

Actually , there is 1 skill that can make your defense go below zero. It happened on my sorc once. It's called Inner Sight. :D

[BIGeyedBUG]

Actually , there is 1 skill that can make your defense go below zero. It happened on my sorc once. It's called Inner Sight. :D

I've seen the same thing, but the displayed defence has nothing to do with the to-hit check in this case.