Magic Damage Reduces in PvP

[TurinTurambar]

Planning to make a PvP S/S WW Barb lvl 50, and I was wondering having magic damage reduced around 100 would be useful?
Where can I find the right order of resistances - PvP penalty - mag dmg red?
Hope to be heard this time! :thumbsup:

[TurinTurambar]

Oh and don't forget about absorb % like I did! ;)
P.s. Can anyone tell me if it's true that battle orders doesn't give you extra life from vitality you get from your equipment? Thank you for replying

[rikstaker]

Magic damage reduction is quite useless in pvp.It is the very first reduction in the chain.A 10k blizzard-100 from that wont help you a lot.AFAIK this is the order:

1) -x magic damage / - damage
2) Resistance
3) absorb
4) 1/6 PvP penalty.

So stack up on resists & absorb.

@Turin:Its true,+Vitality & Life per level isnt doubled by BO.

Razgriz

[rikstaker]

Magic damage reduction is quite useless in pvp.It is the very first reduction in the chain.A 10k blizzard-100 from that wont help you a lot.AFAIK this is the order:

1) -x magic damage / - damage
2) Resistance
3) absorb
4) 1/6 PvP penalty.

So stack up on resists & absorb.

@Turin:Its true,+Vitality & Life per level isnt doubled by BO.

Razgriz

[RTB]

Hate to be correcting you again, but looking at some posts at the AB forums convinced me that this is the right order:

1. PvP penalty (17%)
2. (magic) damage reduce by x
3. resists
4. absorb

This is not the full list, but it'll do for barbarians.

Nice double post btw.

[rikstaker]

Hate to be correcting you again, but looking at some posts at the AB forums convinced me that this is the right order:

1. PvP penalty (17%)
2. (magic) damage reduce by x
3. resists
4. absorb

This is not the full list, but it'll do for barbarians.

Nice double post btw.

My list was in alphabetical order. :D (was from 1.09 pvp faq I believe)

& I thought you were making corrections on my guide,where is it?

Network errors.& what happened to your tar? its fecked up,not just you others aswell?sumtin wrong here?

Razgriz

[RTB]

My list was in alphabetical order. :D (was from 1.09 pvp faq I believe)
The order was changed in 1.10.


& I thought you were making corrections on my guide,where is it?
PMed you the small list (see comment in PM), instead of mailing. Done that as soon as I received the guide btw.


Network errors.& what happened to your tar? its fecked up,not just you others aswell?sumtin wrong here?
Something went slightly wrong with the avatars. Re-uploading seems to help.

Edit: Yours is messed up too, and the User CP errors out right now. We'll just have to be patient.

[rikstaker]

The order was changed in 1.10.


PMed you the small list (see comment in PM), instead of mailing. Done that as soon as I received the guide btw.


Something went slightly wrong with the avatars. Re-uploading seems to help.

Edit: Yours is messed up too, and the User CP errors out right now. We'll just have to be patient.

:rolleyes:

I DID NOT RECEIVE YOUR PM.Transmit again police.

Yeh,I am beginning to forget things,somehow the 1.09 order was fresh in my mind.

My Tar is fecked up?

Razgriz

[RTB]

I DID NOT RECEIVE YOUR PM.Transmit again police.
Ouch. I don't think I saved it. Will do again when I have a bit more time.


My Tar is fecked up?

Not at the moment.

[TurinTurambar]

Tnx for the replies! So what would u recommand for a lvl 50 PvP wwbarb?
Doing all I can getting 123 magic dmg reduced with:
Arreat's [mal] 7
Nat's Armor [3x mal]and boots, 21+15
String of Ears 15
Gerke's Sanctuary [mal] 25
Crescent Moon 10
2x Dwarf Star 30
(the weapon is an eth highlandblade with oath)

Or should I go for dmg gear with ed jewels and all?
Any suggestions? I like speed with cat's eye and m'avina's belt...
Griswold's Armor with 3 ed dmg / str jewels in it? (looks awesome, and yes that does matter to me)
Sanctuary runeword? (slow miss looks useful from my point of view)

[rikstaker]

Tnx for the replies! So what would u recommand for a lvl 50 PvP wwbarb?
Doing all I can getting 123 magic dmg reduced with:
Arreat's [mal] 7
Nat's Armor [3x mal]and boots, 21+15
String of Ears 15
Gerke's Sanctuary [mal] 25
Crescent Moon 10
2x Dwarf Star 30
(the weapon is an eth highlandblade with oath)

Or should I go for dmg gear with ed jewels and all?
Any suggestions? I like speed with cat's eye and m'avina's belt...
Griswold's Armor with 3 ed dmg / str jewels in it? (looks awesome, and yes that does matter to me)
Sanctuary runeword? (slow miss looks useful from my point of view)

I thought you'd figure it out,its still not worth it.The reduction is second in order.Try to go for resists & absorb, they are further down the chain & therefore have a larger influence on dmg,you have compromised gear totally & the returns do not justify such arrangement.

Razgriz

[psuedoenviro]

I am guessing your goal is to deal with bone necros/hammerdins?

You could use a safety shield with 5-10% magic resists and 1-2 mdr fixed mods with a possible 1-3 mdr spawn mod which then can be socketed with a mal instead of Gerkes. Best would be a mal'ed safety shield with 10% mr and 12 mdr. You give up 13 hard mdr but as long as the damage is after pvp penalty is 130+ a safety shield is better. This would give your build 110 mdr and 10% mr instead of your flat 123 mdr.

Assuming 4k damage:
pvp = 680
123 mdr with 0% mr = 557
110 mdr with 10% mr = 513

[TurinTurambar]

For the record, does magic dmg reduced actually reduce "magical" damage, as in bone spirit, hammers and berserk, besides elemental dmg?

[RTB]

"Magic damage reduced" reduces the dmg done by fire/cold/lightning/magical attacks.

[peddroelm]

must use ES in order to make good use of MDR // PDR echip but that's sorc bussines :D

[Laiko]

I have a eth gerkes with like 300+ def with 146 durb ^^