Fire Claw Bear Suggestions

[LifePincher]

I dumped my lvl 92 Mauler that I've been working on for the past few weeks & now setting my scope towards a Fireclaw Bear.

Lvl 58 (wanting to get to at least lvl 92)
FireKabuto
(stat pnts unused=56) Where to dump rest?
Stats & Skills are naked w/no equip
Str- 103
Dex- 127
Vit- 60
None in energy

For skills, I'm not sure if I should put any more pnts into Bear or Oak(?) I know to max... all the fire skills below & Fireclaws. What about Volcano & Geddon?

FireStorm-7
Moulten Boulder-11
Fissure-11
Lycanthropy-1
Wolf-1
FeralRage-1
Bear-1
Maul-1
FireClaws-5

I read a couple guides but they seem rather old, so I'm asking here. Trying to go with Coldarmy's Fire claw guide for the moment, but that may change a little.

For gear I'm looking at:
6shael Phase (need)
Jalal's (cham?) (need)
Chains of Honor (need)
SS 5/5 fire faceted (have)
Trang's belt (need)
2x Angelic ring & ammy (have)
War Travs (have)

For weapons, I have these but don't know if they'll be any good.
Gris caddy w/3xias/ed jewels & 1xshael
Phase w/4xshael & 2x ias/ed jewels


Suggestions?

[Decebal]

Here u go!

http://strategy.diabloii.net/news.php?id=541

Happy reading!

[LifePincher]

That's a nice guide & all but nothing on a Fire Claws build. I want specifics, not basics.

[inkanddagger]

Here is what you should do:

stats -

Leave strength where it is, or bring it as high as 110 to wear stormshield
bring dexterity only to max block
get vita over 200
leave energy at base

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skills-

max fireclaws
max firestorm
max molten boulder
max volcano
rest into fissure ( 1 point into armageddon is nice with all the +skills and it can stun lock opponents, but its up to you whether or not you want to place that point and go with lower fire claws damage)
1 point into oak sage, werewolf, lycanthropy, werebear, feral rage, maul, (shockwave is nice if you can get one in at the beginning of a duel - major stun lock with fire damage)
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gear-

Phase w/4xshael & 2x ias/ed jewels - 110 ias reaches the 4 frame attack speed. you DO NOT NEED 6 shaels.

Jalal's with a ber - this will get you to max dr with stormshield and CoH

Chains of Honor Make this in a low strenth req armor (dusk shroud)

SS 5/5 fire faceted

Trang's belt - here is your cannot be frozen, and a massive life bonus

2x Angelic ring & ammy (have)

instead of war travs, I would suggest that you use either IK boots, which have 44 life and 100 attack rating, or high life/dexterity waterwalks. In my experience, the IK boots actually work the best with this build.

gloves - bloodfists. this will get you over the 54 fhr breakpoint in bear for and 42 fhr breakpoint if you ever wanted to use wolf form(which gets a higher attack rating than bear form, and is useful against some paladins)

prebuff weapon - mang songs (use this to shift and summon oak sage with)

Charms - 10 shifters with 30+ life, 9 ar/life smalls, 1 annihilus
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This gear/ stat/ skill aloocation should get you to:

~13k fire claws damage(with armageddon) or ~14k damage without armageddon (if you are going to 92 I would suggest armageddon and shockwave)
~25 - 30k attack rating
~5k or better life

if you elect to put a point into armageddon and shockwave:

armageddon will be at ~1600-2000 damage
shockwave will give you a stun length of ~12 seconds
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when dueling make sure you remember to hold the shift key and use walk instead of run vs whilwind barbarians or assassins.

always walk into a duel vs melee paladins/druids/barbarians

sometimes you can wait on a caster to teleport on top of you. try to shift key namelock them so that they land on top of your massive damage.

vs bowazons: keep your finger on top of the run/walk key. walk when an arror gets close, run when they run. you should catch them eventually - i hit is all you will ever need.


hopefully this answeres your questions and gives you confidence to go ahead with the fire claws druid - you won't be disappointed at it's power.

[LifePincher]

Now that's what I'm talking about!!!!!
Thanks Pilgrim. At lvl 62 now ;) Hopefully 85+ later tonight.

[DeamonMonkey]

I built my Fc bear a little differently

Jalas (Um) or Shael depending on Fhr needs
Engima
Maras/Angelic
Storm with a PDiamond
95Ias/15x AR PhaseBlade
On Switch: 6 Shael Giant Thresher
Verdungos
Raven
Bk/Angelic
Treks/Ik boots

10 SS with Life
Anni
9x rw/AR scs or life/ar

A little less damage, 10k with Angelics to 12k with Maras/Bk, but you get 86 fhr, and have more rw, and need to invest less in strength.

I like the build alot.

[pAnda_fury]

this is mine:

level 89 USWest Ladder:

(max damage build- can get up to 18k while wearing a +3shape ammy)
snk_FASTnHOT
110ias112AR phase blade
enigma
jalals w/ 55fire facet
ss w/ 55fire facet
38/15 verdungo
248/20ravenfrost
angelic ring
angelic ammy
magefists
15/10 eth treks
switch:662cta/lidless

charm:
9 shape gcs with life:37,33,30,30,29,27,22,9,8
1 shape gc with 5 strength
various life/res/fhr scs including anni

gear in stash:
19 wisp
203/20 ravenfrost
dwarfstars
coh
120ias grim scythe
ikboots/gloves/belt
tgods
nozokan
another angelic ammy
demon limb
+3 shape +68 life amulet

skills:
max fireclaws
max fissure
max volcano
max firestorm
rest in volcano
1 in prereqs and oak

stats: (using the equipment i listed at top)
life with bo in bear form without oak:4589
life with bo in bear form with oak:5640
damage:14k-16k
ar:18190 without enchant, 24036 with enchant from demonlimb
def:6357
str:206
dex:207
vit:374
ene:59

inkanddagger...why use trangs belt instead of verdungo? verdungo has better life and fhr than trangs. -note: each vit point for druid = 2 health points

with trangs and a ber in jalals:
max dr, +66life and cbf

with verdungo and a cham in jalals
max dr, +60-80 life, 10 fhr and cbf

with trangs and a facet in jalals
43 dr, +66 life, cbf, and more damage

with verdungo and a facet in jalals
max dr, +60-80 life, 10 frh and more damage (but no cbf so you have to wear a ravenfrost)

my build is max damage so i went with the verdungo/facet option. but imo the 2nd is probably the best.

fc bears are very good :thumbsup:

)pAnda(

[inkanddagger]

verdungos gives striaght vita which is not multiplied by lycanthopy or oak sage.

therefore verdingos = 80 life at best, and trangs = 66 x lycanthopy + oak sage, which means that it can add 200+ life.

trangs wins.

[RetroStar]

ED/IAS in Phase is pretty pointless? The dmg your dealing is Fire so get some AR/IAS jewels.

[pAnda_fury]

verdungos gives striaght vita which is not multiplied by lycanthopy or oak sage.

therefore verdingos = 80 life at best, and trangs = 66 x lycanthopy + oak sage, which means that it can add 200+ life.

trangs wins.

ok then, i always thought vita was just a 'condensed' form of life which was also multiplied by bo and oak, lycan etc...
so let me get this straight...druids get 1.5 health points per level which IS multiplied by oak etc, but the stat points you put in vitality aren't multiplied?

to use an example...would a barb (who gets 4 health points per vit point) have more life in the end with an io rune (+10 vit) or a pruby (+38 life) in a helm? with a bo your saying the pruby would be better right?

i think i understand

sorry for going off track

)pAnda(

[ahcw]

ok then, i always thought vita was just a 'condensed' form of life which was also multiplied by bo and oak, lycan etc...
so let me get this straight...druids get 1.5 health points per level which IS multiplied by oak etc, but the stat points you put in vitality aren't multiplied?

to use an example...would a barb (who gets 4 health points per vit point) have more life in the end with an io rune (+10 vit) or a pruby (+38 life) in a helm? with a bo your saying the pruby would be better right?

i think i understand

sorry for going off track

)pAnda(

All vita points are multiplied by bo, lycan, oak sage, etc IF you actually physically put the points in. All + vita items just add their life on top of your multiplied life where all + life items are added into the equation. For instance trangs belt would add 66 x (lycan % + oak sage %) where the verdungos would just add 60-80 life. So for your other example the pruby would add more life than the io rune. I hope that wasn't confusing and helped you out.

edit: [/end hijack] Sorry LifePincher, I'd offer my advice but I've never played fire claws druids :(.

[pAnda_fury]

All vita points are multiplied by bo, lycan, oak sage, etc IF you actually physically put the points in. All + vita items just add their life on top of your multiplied life where all + life items are added into the equation. For instance trangs belt would add 66 x (lycan % + oak sage %) where the verdungos would just add 60-80 life. So for your other example the pruby would add more life than the io rune. I hope that wasn't confusing and helped you out.

edit: [/end hijack] Sorry LifePincher, I'd offer my advice but I've never played fire claws druids :(.

ok thanks i understand now :thumbsup:

)pAnda(

[Kirby Hunter]

personally id go with a setup something like this
of course, i havent played my FIreclaws since i played asia :O

110 ias 30 res Phase Blade/110 ias 180+ ar phase blade (with inheretent 15% ed to make it look good :D)
Stormshield -req/res/etc jewel
CoH/Enigma(I always liked CoH,as it was really hard to get res sometimes)
jalals /w Um/Firefacet/Nice +stat/res jewel)
ss w/ 55fire facet
Verdungo with 15% DR(to hit 50%, isnt the cap 55 though?:X dont remember)
240+/20 Ravenfrostx2 (With angelics on switch, so remember to keep the stats high enough)
Maras/Nice shift ammy(i.e +2/15+stats/res/etc)
Bloodfist
Duped Boots/Eth Sandstorms
switch:x/4-6/x CTA+Lidless

charms*2xShapeshift/Fhr 8* Shapeshift /w Life (thats not exactly it :( why cant i remember)
9* AR/R/w or ar/life with annihilus
Id keep some res charms in the stash i.e 20 life/lit res for foh


Max Fireclaw
max Fissure
Max firestorm
Lycanthropy
Moulten boulder/volcano w/e :D

Id prefer going with lycan over the 3rd synergy first as it provides much needed life :D

[Tastychiken_europe]

but im doing a fireclaw druid too and have some q's.

will a fireclaw druid make it without coh?

what does a plain shapshiftskiller cost?

my druid looks like this at the moment

lvl 65
Fireandclaws

Weapon: 6 Shael pb
Gloves: Magefist
Helm: Jalalas w/ fire facet
Amulet: Angelic wings
Ring's: 1x raven and 1x angelic halo
Boots: sandstorms treks
Armor: some rare i found in normal (some res, fhr and life)
belt: a sturdy belt ^^
Charm's: 2x 4 str lc's and 1 1str sl :) + 2 6-7 cold res sl

and i have 65-70 points spare.

i would be happy if some1 helped me :)

/cheers tastychiken

[LifePincher]

Here's my Fire Claw Bear so far:
Lvl 88

312-846dmg
FC dmg= 11-12k
AR= 3801
FC AR= 21,542
Def.= 2860
75% Block
Fhr= 183%

Gear:

Jeweler's armor 31%fhr/105max dmg
Jalal's w/ ber rune
Phase Blade w/ 4xshael & 2x ias/ed jewels
Stormshield w/ 5-5 fire facet
2x Angelic rings & ammy
Eth SandStorm Treks
Blood fists
Trang's Belt

Skills
I have Molten Boulder & Fissure Maxed
FireStorm will be maxed at lvl 90
Volcano is a 12

I now plan on getting to at least lvl 94.

[DeamonMonkey]

Why the Jewelers armour? What's the reasoning behind that?

[Kirby Hunter]

^^
It looks nice
Id change the armor and the weapon
Weapon to something like ias/res or ias/ar depending on how ur doing in those fields respectively

I'd drop belt for something more useful, i.e 24 fhr/str/etc belt or verd's
id prefer +2(i.e mara, or godly ammy)+ravenfrost (240+/20)x2
O.o whats up with the fhr , imo 86 is just fine(thats the bp right?>_<)

[LifePincher]

As for armor, I'm just trying it out. Will get a COH when I'm ready.
As for the fhr, I'm also trying something. I'm going to be dropping 2x fhr for Life charms in the future while keeping the 5frame BP. As for the belt, it is used for cannot be frozen & life, but I don't plan on dueling anything other than Bears, so what would be the best belt here?
Weapon...... More suggestions? I have the caddy I listed above, will that work?

FHR BP's
6 frame= 86%
5 frame= 152%
4 framw= 360%

[Kirby Hunter]

As for armor, I'm just trying it out. Will get a COH when I'm ready.
As for the fhr, I'm also trying something. I'm going to be dropping 2x fhr for Life charms in the future while keeping the 5frame BP. As for the belt, it is used for cannot be frozen & life, but I don't plan on dueling anything other than Bears, so what would be the best belt here?
Weapon...... More suggestions? I have the caddy I listed above, will that work?

FHR BP's
6 frame= 86%
5 frame= 152%
4 framw= 360%
iwish i had some druids(mleee) to play in europe, then maybe id make one;)
IMO if ur going to go fireclaw vs fireclaw, ar doesnt matter AT ALL(.-.)

CoH/Guardian Angel/Duress(OW)
Jalal's w/ ber rune/ CoA BerBer(if going against melee), or Cham/Vex,Cham/Um etc, depends on what ur short on
Phase Blade w/ 4xshael & 2x ias/res jewels
Stormshield w/ shael
Maras/godly ammy
2xRings(Ravenfrosts are good, but if going Bear vs Bear only, you might want to change ur equip...as ar is NOWHERe near as importnat in bear vs bear)
Eth SandStorm Treks
Blood fists
24 fhr/+str/+huge life/ow/etc belt

[RetroStar]

Verdungo for the DR as your dueling other bears.

[inkanddagger]

trangs is always going to be better than verdungos on a fc build.

keep the 152 fhr breakpoint.

keep using your 110ias phase blade - the caddy is much slower ( 1 whole frame loss)