How is my WW Setup?

[skygoneblue]

I just finish my WW Assn today, and I was wondering what you guys think of my gear choices (and wondering if you had any suggestions for remaining skill points).

Harlequin Crest + CHAM
Angelic Amulet
"Chaos" Suwayyah - 330% ED
"Bramble" Archon Plate - 40% Poison/21 Thorns
Jade Talon - +2 Shadow (Shael for last WW Breakpoint?)
Trang's Gloves
Eagle Master Rare Ring - AR, 19 STR, 15 DEX, 33 Mana, other mods
Verdungo's
Angelic Ring
Gore Riders

CTA and Lidless on switch

Then, the obvious skills...

20 Claw Mastery
20 Venom
12 Weapon Block (60% with Anni, Charms, and Battle Command)
14 Fade (50% DR with Verdungo's and Shako)
1 Mind Blast

I have 20+ points left, and I'm only level 73...Now what?

I hit just over 4k with my Chaos on my WW attack, and I think my AR is like 7-8k. I get about 2000 life after BO. And, my Venom is something like 1575.

Any comments are welcome! Thanks guys!

['22'Souljah]

life is kind of low

[skygoneblue]

Well, only two of my GCs have any life mods, and they're way low (like 12 and 7 I think). That is also without any 20 life SCs.

I am also only level 73, and I only have a 1 BO CTA. So, I could get about 2400-2500 pretty easily (just guessing) with some good Shadow lifers, SCs, and a better CTA.

Is the rest of the gear ok do you think?

I was debating between this setup vs using Fury, CoA, and Shadow Dancers to replace Jade, Shako, and Gores, but I did the math, and I wound up spending a LOT less strength and getting over 100 more life with this setup. My only big loss was 1 Shadow skill level and some open wounds.

I guess it made sense at the time... :confused:

[richo]

I was debating between this setup vs using Fury, CoA, and Shadow Dancers to replace Jade, Shako, and Gores, but I did the math, and I wound up spending a LOT less strength and getting over 100 more life with this setup. My only big loss was 1 Shadow skill level and some open wounds.

well about the shadow dancers, i would not take those it cost to many strenght you can better invest them in vit (I prefer life over dmg as most pple do i think), and the gores are good but as said the OW not many activates but the DS is nice, and and hold that jade in stash for in lvling or fighting sorc or other ele users, and for the COA that is the best option but expensive if you want one~~

[skygoneblue]

Defense: 349-399 (Base Defense: 111-165) - Don't Care
Required Level: 82 - That sucks
Required Strength: 174 - 10 more than Shadow Dancers!!!
+50% Enhanced Defense - Meh, don't care
+100-150 Defense (varies) - Still don't care
+1 To All Skills - Shako is better, it gives 2
Damage Reduced By 10-15% (varies) - I already have 50% DR
All Resistances +20-30 (varies) - Resists are maxed also
+30% Faster Hit Recovery - I already have 90%, don't need any more
Socketed (1-2) (varies) - The ONE spot where CoA COULD be better
Indestructible - Whoopee!
(Only Spawns In Patch 1.10 or later)

So, I fail to see your point Richo... :(

['22'Souljah]

Well, only two of my GCs have any life mods, and they're way low (like 12 and 7 I think). That is also without any 20 life SCs.

I am also only level 73, and I only have a 1 BO CTA. So, I could get about 2400-2500 pretty easily (just guessing) with some good Shadow lifers, SCs, and a better CTA.

Is the rest of the gear ok do you think?

I was debating between this setup vs using Fury, CoA, and Shadow Dancers to replace Jade, Shako, and Gores, but I did the math, and I wound up spending a LOT less strength and getting over 100 more life with this setup. My only big loss was 1 Shadow skill level and some open wounds.

I guess it made sense at the time... :confused:

when i had a :lol: bramble sin my life was 2700 at lvl 90 with plain shadow gcs and 9 x small charm of vitas ~.^

[skygoneblue]

I'm glad you found humor in my build... :(

['22'Souljah]

I'm glad you found humor in my build... :(

i find all bramble sins or the more melee based sins as lol's

[skygoneblue]

Well, when you find a 2 Assn Skill, 20 Fast Cast Rate, +100 life/mana circlet, +20 resist all, you let me know. Until then, be a bit more respectful of other peoples' builds. I asked for help or suggestions, not a condescending smartass.

[Davie.]

Jade talon eh. I understand why u use that, you think you need bos for mobility.
Well its true in a way, unless you stunlock well. I think you could stand having a fury and stash the talon. Gores btw, suck with your build. 15% ds is laughable, i'd much rather see you go soul shanks and fury for equal resists and tons of Ow . I dont see what the strategy in using talon and gores is.

['22'Souljah]

Well, when you find a 2 Assn Skill, 20 Fast Cast Rate, +100 life/mana circlet, +20 resist all, you let me know. Until then, be a bit more respectful of other peoples' builds. I asked for help or suggestions, not a condescending smartass.

don't mad k

[Kirby Hunter]

don't mad k
your life
Is just too low
Don't use bramble, use BP enigma
even without life skillers, you can easily hit 2.7-3k+ life
Use fury+chaos...Not chaos+jade^^

['22'Souljah]

don't mad k

your life
Is just too low
Don't use bramble, use BP enigma
even without life skillers, you can easily hit 2.7-3k+ life
Use fury+chaos...Not chaos+jade^^

what was the point of quoting me? :confused:

[skygoneblue]

Well, it's hard to not get at least a bit irritated when people say **** like

"Use this." WHY??? Explain yourself! Saying that Enigma is better than Bramble without suggesting good FCR gear makes no sense. Besides, the gear he suggested makes me completely lack resists.

Whatever...thanks for nothing...

[Liquid_Evil]

I have a gear setup almost exactly like yours and have found it to work pretty well. I went with an Um in Jade Talon/'Tuc's and alternate between them against casters and barbs respectively. I imagine Fury is the best if you can afford it. I'm liking your rare ring but are the extra stat points really worth the thousands of Attack Rating points you could get if you wore another Angelic? You could also try some +3 SD/+3 Venom Claws on switch to boost your Venom damage even further. However, it may be a hassel switching from prebuff claws to CtA. Only other differences gear-wise would be that I'm a fan of Shadow Dancers over Gores since I don't need the Open wounds but that is really only about personal taste. Build looks pretty solid for the most part, best of luck in duels.

[chi987]

Id go for shadow dancers for the +skills and FHR

you are severly underestimating CoA. CoA will give you more flexibility in your items, allowing you to maybe switch out your verdungos or jade talon for something more useful.

jade talons aren't bad, but they arent the greatest. try compensating your resists and then go for a good claw like an um bartuc or a fury if you can afford it.

edit: GL hitting casters :p

[Davie.]

Coa costs serious str if ur not using dancers anyway. Ur life is low as is no need to make u more of a 1 hit ko.

[skygoneblue]

Well, I opted not to use CoA and Dancers for the reason that Davie said. I did the math, and I got a ton more life not using the CoA and Dancers and using Shako instead. All I lost was 1 Shadow skill.

I don't need the FHR from Dancers. Bramble already has 50, Jade has 30, and Verdungo's has 10. That's easily hitting the 86 breakpoint.

Also, I decided to use CTA instead of +3 Shadow claws. I figured that adding a ton of life was much more important than a couple hundred poison damage that was going to get resisted anyway.

The rare ring I am using is cool, but I don't know how much of the extra AR I need. Yeah, I know, it's not very high right now, but I don't usually go picking fights with WW barbs or Zealots (even though I have beaten quite a few of both).

Also, I haven't said this yet, I have around 2300 life right now with a BO.

I appreciate the input you guys have given, but I am still not convinced that using CoA, Fury, and Dancers is a better setup than what I have. Gah, where is Speeder when you need a good mathematician!?!

[Zangeif]

This ww assassin seems to be built only to fight melee classes. If you go up against a good caster you will not have much of a chance. Against casters, fcr, trap laying speed, and teleport are far more valuable than resists. You already invested enough into str to wear bramble, so there's no changing that now. However, you should get an enigma for the stash to use vs casters.

If you can find a way to modify your build now to hit 65 fcr vs casters, then do it. I'm thinking switch to arach and Griffons ( not sure if you can afford a .08 valk. Also switch out your angelic amulet for a maras and an absorb ring.

I think this build will be effective overall but is not tweaked nearly as much as it could be. Please max mindblast too, it is by far a ww assassin's most important skill.

As far as cta vs +3 shadow claws, the cta is the obvious choice. You can always use both though.