View Full Version : Stop the pub-hatin!!!
AntiTyrant
08-02-2005, 01:43
Ways to make pub games enjoyable;
1) Kill them and make them think they stand a chance ><
2) Don't worry about gold, thats noobish!
3) Squelch is there for a reason...
4) Make jokes, its common knowledge that everyone likes to laugh
5) Don't act like an *** just cause they can't do anything about it.
6) No matter how annoying they are, never START a nk contest.
7) Don't do cheap things (town guard/running ect.)
8) Don't worry about gold, thats noobish! (this is where a lot of people are stupid, so i say it twice)
9) :scratch: ...um, just use your brain, you were weak once too
I know there are jerks in this game, but don't let them get to you. feel free to say whatever you want.
TheGreatDivorce
08-02-2005, 01:57
Run to Akara kid.
AntiTyrant
08-02-2005, 02:09
most of you are the jack asses, and you blame it on us... you say we're dumb and you say stuff like that after you complain about pub games? you are ignorant...
CHOOOCHOOO
08-02-2005, 02:27
2) Don't worry about gold, thats noobish!
8) Don't worry about gold, thats noobish! (this is where a lot of people are stupid, so i say it twice)
I'm guessing if I was to own you and take gold, you would cry?
I would have a great time with you.
AntiTyrant
08-02-2005, 02:35
First of all, you've just proven my point.
secondly, i have never... NEVER complained about gold. i've dueled people with 50x as nice as gear as i have. I would catch them in a **** load of charges in a row, or something like that and accidently took thier gold and they started shouting like a noob.
You probably wouldn't have much fun if you think i would get angry over dieing in a duel against someone clearly better than me... i am a casual player, i have bad items, i just try to have fun, i don't go heal half way through a duel unless unfair play was used. So as soon as you stop acting like your a god, i'll keep defending pub-duels, because most of you say the same things. "all public duelers are the same."
...just don't be too quick to judge us, and i apologize for generalizing against pirvate duelers, i've met a lot of them that are awesome, and a lot of them like 'thegreatdivorce' or whatever his name is.
abtarkerpal
08-02-2005, 02:39
Ways to make pub games enjoyable;
1) Kill them and make them think they stand a chance ><
2) Don't worry about gold, thats noobish!
3) Squelch is there for a reason...
4) Make jokes, its common knowledge that everyone likes to laugh
5) Don't act like an *** just cause they can't do anything about it.
6) No matter how annoying they are, never START a nk contest.
7) Don't do cheap things (town guard/running ect.)
8) Don't worry about gold, thats noobish! (this is where a lot of people are stupid, so i say it twice)
9) :scratch: ...um, just use your brain, you were weak once too
I know there are jerks in this game, but don't let them get to you. feel free to say whatever you want.
but nk contests are funnnn!!!
lol
I was in a full meele pub game (and all the people were actually meele) and we had nk battle, 4v4. Probably the best time I have had in a pubby. We lined up next to the gate and blitzed to our bodies. We had a little strategy too; 2 people would go to the right, 1 down the middle, and the other would regain his body. Easily my most aggravating and exciting pub game.
AntiTyrant
08-02-2005, 02:41
Your right, NK can be fun, but not if your doing it just to be a jerk... i should've been more clear.
TheGreatDivorce
08-02-2005, 02:53
most of you are the jack asses, and you blame it on us... you say we're dumb and you say stuff like that after you complain about pub games? you are ignorant...
Of course I was just kidding around,
feel free to say whatever you want.
Anyhow, look for games with 3 or less people, those are usually the games in which good mannered duelers are playing in since there isn't enough people in them for them to brag to each other that they do such a fine job in nk'ing and tg'ing you.
I'd had my share of bad and good games, the good games usually outweigh the bad most of the time. I'm used to it by now, just remember that you are the better dueler.
AntiTyrant
08-02-2005, 02:56
i apologize for my Jack *** comment ><
I'm just sick of all these people crying noob just cause they are better... it's really really annoying...
and you should say whatever you want, i'll just try my best to stop all these negitive coments about public games.
CHOOOCHOOO
08-02-2005, 02:58
First of all, you've just proven my point.
Proven what point? That pubs get too sensitive in dueling?
...just don't be too quick to judge us, and i apologize for generalizing against pirvate duelers, i've met a lot of them that are awesome, and a lot of them like 'thegreatdivorce' or whatever his name is.
In private duels, you have serious duels which was intended. Private duelers tend to keep their original gear (instead of absorb) and duel the other player with his original gear. You don't have a full screen of "noob" spammed because you beat the other player, just like in pub games. Also, if some one accidentally picked up gold or needed some of it for repairs in a private game, no one cries. It's just gold, go kill council members in act 3 for 3X as much as you lost. I could just keep on naming 'em-
i don't go heal half way through a duel unless unfair play was used. Dude, what's the reason for that? Are you trying to say private duelers pot in duels or something? Fill me in?
i'll keep defending pub-duels
Keep on
AntiTyrant
08-02-2005, 03:05
i'm not saying that priv duels are cheap, in fact, i know that pub duels are a hell of a lot more cheap than priv. i was trying to establish that i'm not some jerk that acts like a noob. What i get from you is that your saying public games are stupid because they don't follow set rules. Not all of us spam 'noob' just cause we're weaker. Your just being a snob by saying that.
I'm just trying to defend pub duels a bit.
i'm sorry if it sounds like i'm saying pub > priv, cause i dont believe that. They are just different, a change of pace.
CHOOOCHOOO
08-02-2005, 03:19
I'm just trying to defend pub duels a bit.
Sorry, but you are horrible in defending an argument. Horrible.
i was trying to establish that i'm not some jerk that acts like a noob.
...are you defending yourself? I don't understand.
Not all of us spam 'noob' just cause we're weaker. Your just being a snob by saying that.
Well no duh, I know that. What I meant was there is a huge percentage of pub duelers that do this, whereas the percentage is quite small in private duels. (Since the purpose of private duels is to have PRIVATE, serious, and fun duels, even compare builds. I don't see any of those qualities in pub duels, except fun when most of the people actually cry about gold accidentally taken)
AntiTyrant
08-02-2005, 03:28
well, what can i say? you don't listen at all... i'm saying that pub duels are a change of pace from the serious priv duels.
i should've stated it simply right away... (thats an insult if didn't catch it)
priv duels
>find out who is acually better
>a lot of rules (not a completely good or bad thing)
>if you don't know what squelch is
pub duels
>a place to hang out, have fun (melee with sorc, ect.)
>a place where you can use a lot of different tactics
>few rules (some people don't follow them, thats what you don't like i'm guessing)
Its a matter of opinion, one is NOT better than the other.
and as for your comments, i was defending myself as well, because all you could say was a long version of 'noob.' and i thought privs hated that...
A way to fix your annoying spammers is to use the squelch button
CHOOOCHOOO
08-02-2005, 03:57
priv duels
>find out who is acually better
>a lot of rules (not a completely good or bad thing)
>if you don't know what squelch is
pub duels
>a place to hang out, have fun (melee with sorc, ect.)
>a place where you can use a lot of different tactics
>few rules (some people don't follow them, thats what you don't like i'm guessing)
Its a matter of opinion, one is NOT better than the other.
What is all this?? Seriously tell me??
All you did was name horrible things about priv duels, and everything nice about pub duels. You state "it's a change of pace" then later state "Its a matter of opinion, one is NOT better than the other."
If you wanted to state "it's a change of pace", then don't just name everything horrible about privates, and everything nice for pubs. You're suppose the different advantages each has, and what pub games offer that privs don't.
If you wanted to state "Its a matter of opinion, one is NOT better than the other", why mention its a change of pace?
Pick one and choose one.
Now let me fill you in with a little info that you apparently don't know about.
I'll take it fragment by fragment.
priv duels
>find out who is acually better
>a lot of rules (not a completely good or bad thing)
>if you don't know what squelch is
>Finding out who is actually better is held in TOURNAMENTS. Not all private games are tournaments.
>There are rules in tournaments. There are no rules in privates, however, the players usually are mature, serious, and realize let's not ruin the fun like some pubs.
>For some players (like me), I would enjoy talking and listening to the other person's comments, and not have to squelch everyone because they are immature.
pub duels
>a place to hang out, have fun (melee with sorc, ect.)
>a place where you can use a lot of different tactics
>few rules (some people don't follow them, thats what you don't like i'm guessing)
>Sure, having fun just like in private games. Watch out though, you might get BM'd while having "fun" from a immature crazed pub.
>Tactics like duel tactics? Same in privs. Tactics like absorb? Go pub then.
>No rules in most privs, unless it's a tournament. Just whether or not you're mature or immature about the duels.
and as for your comments, i was defending myself as well, because all you could say was a long version of 'noob.' and i thought privs hated that...
Point out my "long version of noob". Is the "long version of noob" just me expressing some opinions mixed in with a little of your anger?
By the way, work on the grammar. It gets hard to read the true meanings of such posts...
the guy has a good point and a good attitude about pub duelling, and his attitude is in line with how most of this forum likes to enjoy duelling.
personally I pub to slum and make fun of kids but I don't know why people are flaming htis guy because he is making a lot of the points that other members of this forum expouse.
AntiTyrant
08-02-2005, 04:15
As for the long version of noob... stupid remark, i tend to do that a lot... I'm gonna get eaten alive for that one ><
I meant you keep saying i'm stupid, and won't listen to anything i'm saying.
Lots of rules... great if you like that, it's a lot of fun to play by set rules so its not who went the cheapest to win. it's not a bad thing.
See who acually wins... kinda explained that one already above
the squelch comment was kind of stupid, but its just saying people don't have to use it much.
few rules for pub are stuff like no nk... it's only followed a percentage of times, but if you get a decent pub game, it doesnt happen much.
i meant 'finding out who's better' as in, its not about stupid tricks, its about how good you are.
and any1 that gets annoying is not fun to talk to... just think about it, you can get rid of the annoying ones, and talk to the cool ones, if none of them are cool, noone is stoping you from exiting...
Absorb is not a bad thing... unless they change gear, then thats pretty messed up... tactics as in useing a lot of things that people think are unfair, but are really part of your character.
and i apologize for my grammer, it is messed up...
i think we have the same meaning of 'some rules' and 'mature dueler'... and i know some people don't follow them... you just have to deal with it sometimes
and i'm not really angry... although i'll admit it sounds that way...
oh my god amob... i'm a !@#$ing idiot, you have just said what i should have said... 'slum'
CHOOOCHOOO
08-02-2005, 04:42
but I don't know why people are flaming htis guy because he is making a lot of the points that other members of this forum expouse.
No one's flaming him. We are just exchanging ideas that are debatable .
As for the long version of noob... stupid remark, i tend to do that a lot... I'm gonna get eaten alive for that one ><
I meant you keep saying i'm stupid, and won't listen to anything i'm saying.
No, I just couldn't understand your grammar.
Absorb is not a bad thing... unless they change gear, then thats pretty messed up... tactics as in useing a lot of things that people think are unfair, but are really part of your character.
Just like what I meant. Absorb is not a bad thing at all, but changing your gear to suit the negation of the opposing element basically is you telling the opponent "I couldn't beat you with my original gear." That's one reason why privs are enjoyed.
i meant 'finding out who's better' as in, its not about stupid tricks, its about how good you are.
I've covered that in the "tournament section."
and i apologize for my grammer, it is messed up...
You misspelled grammar. lol ^_^
CookiesnCream
08-02-2005, 04:48
I don't like pub duels for the sole reasons of nk and towngaurding. There's really no reason to towngaurd, yet I've seen various people do this all the time in pub duels. For example, I saw a blizzard sorc just spamming blizzard at the town entrance. Not only that, he would run in and out of town so no one would be able to get him. Of course, he didn't say "I pwn j00", but towngaurding and town hugging are pretty BM and I don't even consider that to be dueling. And more and more people are beginning to use pots in duels and then pretend like I don't notice. I hit someone with a direct bonespear and he runs into town. He has 1/4 health left and all of a sudden has full health and then denies potting. And during middle of duels, his health would always be 100% no matter how many times I'd hit him. And it's not just one person, I see more and more people doing this now.
AntiTyrant
08-02-2005, 04:51
Well.. either i'm stupid or we've come to an agreement, and you were right for the most part... we kind alike the same things, i guess its down to this.
the serious player vs the casual player.
skilledlord
08-02-2005, 04:56
I'll say Public duels has it's fun points.
CookiesnCream
08-02-2005, 05:17
I'll say Public duels has it's fun points.
Well I can certainly agree with that ;).
AbbaZabba
08-02-2005, 07:09
People do scream and squak in pubbies, thats how it goes. Public games are like that. There is a squelch button for thoes circumstances. There is also a save and exit if it gets too obnoxious. I duel pubbies all the time only because I like the fact that I see very few of the same people over and over. Each person plays differently, and it causes me to try and change to overcome them. I try and stay out of private dueling games because of the few egotists that turn their nose to public games. I don't use any rules to build a dueler. I don't really care for self promoting people to tell me what items I can and cannot use in a game. I play public duels, and Public duels only. I exercise the squelch command quite often. I never nk, I never take gold, and I never ever talk down to someone no matter how terrible their build is. If Im dueling someone that really sucks, Ill get a poo character just for the thrill of knowing that I may loose. I like to think that it adds to excitement on both ends. I don't want to sound like "one of them" but honestly I lose all the time. I vary rarely am nk'd because of the fact that I give 100% respect to everyone in a game. Once and a while someone gets mad and calls for a "HelpMeKill" clan member, but again I know how to save and exit. I have no shame in that.
Just my 2 cents, not that its worth that
J
Squelch can be very useful. ^.^
7) Don't do cheap things (town guard/RUNNING ect.) lol how is running cheap ?sigh its just like pub duelers to cry about every little thing when they lose. i mean really why should say a zon be called cheap for playing defensivly when dueling a hammerdin or something i mean get real zons cant take hammers , its like asking the other person to lay down and die . Also in no way do pubs incourage fun or diverse builts every pub game has the same staple cookie cutter chars and nothing realy unique will survive without a decent set of rules.
Perfect_11.
09-02-2005, 03:18
this game wasnt made for dueling, therefore there will always be akara-runners, tgers, and the like. Public duels are public duels and if you like to duel that way then so be it. Private duels are a way of enhancing Diablo to make it fair for PvP and make it more of a dueling game, which its not. It's a pity that open battlenet does not work very well, because there are some outstanding mods for open (such as this one admin mod where you can boot players and manage your game). If it did, I would hope the serious duelers would go there. I always dreamed of a Diablo with no exp runs and mf runs... just have your gear and character and find out different builds to duel others... thats the main reason i got off d2... to omuch involved to test out new chars... o well thats the end of my rant.. kinda went OT.
LordDrift
09-02-2005, 05:54
This thread is going to make most ppl upset. I don't think rules apply, its a game. People act immature maybe they have issues in person
'22'Souljah
09-02-2005, 06:06
don't know about everyone else but i 'grew' up in pubbies i'll just leave it at that
CookiesnCream
09-02-2005, 07:13
i mean really why should say a zon be called cheap for playing defensivly when dueling a hammerdin or something i mean get real zons cant take hammers
I think he might have meant "townhugging" where you constantly run in and out of town in order to avoid getting hit (example: bone necro spams 3 bone spirits and runs right back into town). And there's a difference between playing "defensive" and "hit and run" I get annoyed by "hit and run" mf sorcs that do almost no damage and yell "absorb!" every time they duel. Exactly who do you expect to kill in a dueling game with a 300 damage frozen orb? Dueling sorcs dish out huge amounts of damage if the opponent's not absorbing. My friend had a blizzard sorc that did a large amound of damage and almost always played offensively because he knew he could kill me with one good blizzard. Same thing with good frozen orb and fireball sorcs.
The pro-private duelers (a select few, not all of you) need to get off their goddamn high horses. I've seen no legit reason for you to be disagreeing in such a severe manner. Seriously, how about we tone down the "debatable material" a bit?
Just my opinion, cause I've learnt the hard way what happens when you come off to others as a jerk. For the record, I totally agree with Anti-Tyrant in that pub duelers sure can suck when it comes to manners, but the public dueling itself is pretty damn fun. Even if it's nowhere near your uber l33t private dueling leagues, it's still nothing to scoff at.
AbbaZabba
09-02-2005, 10:59
This thread is going to make most ppl upset. I don't think rules apply, its a game. People act immature maybe they have issues in person
I don't have issues....It was lag. You must be absorbing. GG Owned Kthanks. ;)
This is the way it is. Items are items. Its a game. If blizzard wanted no absorbs in dueling, they would have no absorb items in a game. Lag is actually caused by a loss, and cheap skills are the ones that beat you every time. (I agree with LordDrift 100%)
]I totally agree with Anti-Tyrant in that pub duelers sure can suck when it comes to manners, but the public dueling itself is pretty damn fun. Even if it's nowhere near your uber l33t private dueling leagues, it's still nothing to scoff at.
I can't remember the last time I was nk'd in a pubbie. I can't remember either when the last time I was "tg'd". I don't complain when I lose at all ever. I don't care if I have a 1903827489 Ping or the other person is using 200k hammers. I don't gloat when I win. This is a major part of it. I think alot of the nk's happen because people say a lot of things they should not to the wrong person. Complain enough to me in the real world, and Ill tell you to go get bent. The neat difference between pubbies and privs is that in private duels, you can invite certain types of builds, and exclude others. In pubbies you have to duel just about every other class and type. They may mostly be cookie cutters, but at least there is a variance. They will take your gold when you lose too. Gold is godly and losing it makes you less of a human. (I tell people to take my gold when they best me. Im dumb enough to have it with me and than lose, I deserve it)
AntiTyrant, I like what your doing sticking up for pub's, but there's just one thing I have to say on the topic.
I'm sure a lot of us would like pubbie dueling a lot more if >80% of the people in pubs learned to get an I.Q. of 60 or higher
MarkRenton
09-02-2005, 22:48
pots like there is no tomorrow .. absorb
DragonKnight_Aka
09-02-2005, 23:17
The people who talk trash in publics do this.
(1) Think they have the best dueling char in the whole game
(2) Don't plan out their char and learn the pros and cons
(3) Smack 1 type of dueling gear and except to beat anyone
(4) Go into a dueling game and get beat alot and claim the person who beat them is etheir potting , hacking , or play unfair
(5) talk trash and leave the game
My friend dose this and is right now claiming his throwing barb will do 7k damage and if a sorc teles into it she will die in 1 hit.....( he will soon find out that I was right )
I agree pubs should drop the nk , townguarding and running to town when they are gonna lose. Their alot of people who just take this game too far. If ur char loses a duel so ??? U losted to 1 person when u beaten 70 ?? Do we lose gear when our char dies ?? Do we lose exp against another char ?? Is our life over cuz someone beat our char ??
It's fun to duel but damn people laugh at u cuz ur coh dosen't have perfect def ??? and say ur noob ?? If someone is a noob who cares we can teach them how to duel then ...
talking trash is the best part of pubs, no joke
DragonKnight_Aka
10-02-2005, 01:14
True when someone says u suck noob and u say really ? then how come u haven't killed me yet? and they say cuz their cat is in the way. I love the excuses people make :D
CookiesnCream
10-02-2005, 03:48
I agree pubs should drop the nk , townguarding and running to town when they are gonna lose. Their alot of people who just take this game too far. If ur char loses a duel so ??? U losted to 1 person when u beaten 70 ?? Do we lose gear when our char dies ?? Do we lose exp against another char ?? Is our life over cuz someone beat our char ?? [/font]
Well it matters if you play hardcore.....that's why almost everyone uses chicken hack.
Well it matters if you play hardcore.....that's why almost everyone uses chicken hack.
True. But in hc they wouldn't run to town. They'd either flux/chicken/rejoin.
G0su_Hellbolt
12-02-2005, 11:01
Hell, this thread is finally getting less and less of a "flame-the-thread-poster" into a "lets-flame-the-stupid-pubbies!"
I've had my share of BM pubbie duel games. Whenever it happens, I just exit and look for another one.
Then again, I've had my share of really good pub games. There are some very good pubbie duellers out there, and occasionally they join your game and then you can have a good duel. Hoping that noone will interrupt.
Conclusion: There are around 75~85% BM pubbie duellers. But if you can find the GM minority, pubbie duelling is THEN fun.
*Gosu-Hellbolt
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