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I was looking thru the forums and saw a number of questions about thunderstorm so I thought I'd post this for them. This was supposedly accurate for V1.09 and to the best of my knowledge wasn't changed with the v1.10 patch.
Thunderstorm: the columns are as follows,
spell level, Mana Cost, Damage, Bolt Frequency, Max Number of Bolts, and Spell Duration
(in seconds)
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slvl Mana Damage Frequency Bolts Duration (sec)
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1 19 1-100 4.40 7 32
2 19 11-110 3.92 10 40
3 19 21-120 3.56 13 48
4 19 31-130 3.24 17 56
5 19 41-140 3.00 21 64
6 19 51-150 2.80 25 72
7 19 61-160 2.64 30 80
8 19 71-170 2.52 34 88
9 19 81-180 2.36 40 96
10 19 91-190 2.28 45 104
11 19 101-200 2.16 51 112
12 19 111-210 2.08 57 120
13 19 121-220 2.00 64 128
14 19 131-230 1.92 70 136
15 19 141-240 1.88 76 144
16 19 151-250 1.80 84 152
17 19 162-261 1.76 90 160
18 19 173-272 1.72 97 168
19 19 184-283 1.68 104 176
20 19 195-294 1.64 112 184
21 19 206-305 1.60 120 192
22 19 217-316 1.56 128 200
23 19 228-327 1.52 136 208
24 19 239-338 1.48 145 216
25 19 250-349 1.48 151 224
26 19 261-360 1.44 161 232
27 19 272-371 1.40 171 240
28 19 283-382 1.40 177 248
29 19 294-393 1.36 188 256
30 19 305-404 1.36 194 264
31 19 316-415 1.32 206 272
32 19 327-426 1.32 212 280
33 19 338-437 1.28 225 288
34 19 349-448 1.28 231 296
35 19 360-459 1.28 237 304
36 19 371-470 1.24 251 312
37 19 382-481 1.24 258 320
38 19 393-492 1.20 273 328
39 19 404-503 1.20 280 336
40 19 415-514 1.20 286 344
41 19 426-525 1.20 293 352
42 19 437-536 1.16 310 360
43 19 448-547 1.16 317 368
44 19 459-558 1.16 324 376
45 19 470-569 1.12 342 384
46 19 481-580 1.12 350 392
47 19 492-591 1.12 357 400
48 19 503-602 1.12 364 408
49 19 514-613 1.08 385 416
50 19 525-624 1.08 392 424
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(Note: Bolt frequency is measured in terms of the minimum number of seconds between shots. After casting the spell, it resets its timer and has a "warm-up" period before the first bolt is fired. This warm-up period is roughly equal to the frequency of the current slvl of the spell.)
This was supposedly accurate for V1.09 and to the best of my knowledge wasn't changed with the v1.10 patch.
It should be... it was one of the unchanged spells due to dmg and synergies at least... looks good to me.
melianor
08-02-2005, 09:58
I'll sticky this for a bit. Though Thunderstorm might not be that viable anymore in 1.10 i still think that this table shows vey well, how much one can underestiamte the effectivness of a spell at higher lvls. I would like to see what frequency and amount of bolts you have at lvl 40 or 50!
I'll sticky this for a bit. Though Thunderstorm might not be that viable anymore in 1.10 i still think that this table shows vey well, how much one can underestiamte the effectivness of a spell at higher lvls. I would like to see what frequency and amount of bolts you have at lvl 40 or 50!
Here are the stats I have going up to lvl 50 if you care to update or change the table. Sorry I didn't include them the first time, was followed up on the next page of where I had it saved.
1 19 1-100 4.40 7 32
2 19 11-110 3.92 10 40
3 19 21-120 3.56 13 48
4 19 31-130 3.24 17 56
5 19 41-140 3.00 21 64
6 19 51-150 2.80 25 72
7 19 61-160 2.64 30 80
8 19 71-170 2.52 34 88
9 19 81-180 2.36 40 96
10 19 91-190 2.28 45 104
11 19 101-200 2.16 51 112
12 19 111-210 2.08 57 120
13 19 121-220 2.00 64 128
14 19 131-230 1.92 70 136
15 19 141-240 1.88 76 144
16 19 151-250 1.80 84 152
17 19 162-261 1.76 90 160
18 19 173-272 1.72 97 168
19 19 184-283 1.68 104 176
20 19 195-294 1.64 112 184
21 19 206-305 1.60 120 192
22 19 217-316 1.56 128 200
23 19 228-327 1.52 136 208
24 19 239-338 1.48 145 216
25 19 250-349 1.48 151 224
26 19 261-360 1.44 161 232
27 19 272-371 1.40 171 240
28 19 283-382 1.40 177 248
29 19 294-393 1.36 188 256
30 19 305-404 1.36 194 264
31 19 316-415 1.32 206 272
32 19 327-426 1.32 212 280
33 19 338-437 1.28 225 288
34 19 349-448 1.28 231 296
35 19 360-459 1.28 237 304
36 19 371-470 1.24 251 312
37 19 382-481 1.24 258 320
38 19 393-492 1.20 273 328
39 19 404-503 1.20 280 336
40 19 415-514 1.20 286 344
41 19 426-525 1.20 293 352
42 19 437-536 1.16 310 360
43 19 448-547 1.16 317 368
44 19 459-558 1.16 324 376
45 19 470-569 1.12 342 384
46 19 481-580 1.12 350 392
47 19 492-591 1.12 357 400
48 19 503-602 1.12 364 408
49 19 514-613 1.08 385 416
50 19 525-624 1.08 392 424
melianor
09-02-2005, 07:20
Filled up the table to lvl50, thx.
Lazy_BerZerker
24-02-2005, 16:39
I don't get the number of bolts part :P though T-storm was only one attack in every 1-7 sec.
PhaseMaster
03-03-2005, 14:28
Here are the stats I have going up to lvl 50 if you care to update or change the table. Sorry I didn't include them the first time, was followed up on the next page of where I had it saved.
1 19 1-100 4.40 7 32
2 19 11-110 3.92 10 40
3 19 21-120 3.56 13 48
4 19 31-130 3.24 17 56
5 19 41-140 3.00 21 64
6 19 51-150 2.80 25 72
7 19 61-160 2.64 30 80
8 19 71-170 2.52 34 88
9 19 81-180 2.36 40 96
10 19 91-190 2.28 45 104
11 19 101-200 2.16 51 112
12 19 111-210 2.08 57 120
13 19 121-220 2.00 64 128
14 19 131-230 1.92 70 136
15 19 141-240 1.88 76 144
16 19 151-250 1.80 84 152
17 19 162-261 1.76 90 160
18 19 173-272 1.72 97 168
19 19 184-283 1.68 104 176
20 19 195-294 1.64 112 184
21 19 206-305 1.60 120 192
22 19 217-316 1.56 128 200
23 19 228-327 1.52 136 208
24 19 239-338 1.48 145 216
25 19 250-349 1.48 151 224
26 19 261-360 1.44 161 232
27 19 272-371 1.40 171 240
28 19 283-382 1.40 177 248
29 19 294-393 1.36 188 256
30 19 305-404 1.36 194 264
31 19 316-415 1.32 206 272
32 19 327-426 1.32 212 280
33 19 338-437 1.28 225 288
34 19 349-448 1.28 231 296
35 19 360-459 1.28 237 304
36 19 371-470 1.24 251 312
37 19 382-481 1.24 258 320
38 19 393-492 1.20 273 328
39 19 404-503 1.20 280 336
40 19 415-514 1.20 286 344
41 19 426-525 1.20 293 352
42 19 437-536 1.16 310 360
43 19 448-547 1.16 317 368
44 19 459-558 1.16 324 376
45 19 470-569 1.12 342 384
46 19 481-580 1.12 350 392
47 19 492-591 1.12 357 400
48 19 503-602 1.12 364 408
49 19 514-613 1.08 385 416
50 19 525-624 1.08 392 424
TStorm is much too weak anywhere in the 1.10 patch as yes, I am looking for a lot of trouble as its better to have enemies rather than friends.
Shlongor
03-03-2005, 22:43
I remember (at least in 1.09), thunderstorm would hit twice per strike. I tested it with someone and you could see life go down two times and after calculating damage, it was indeed hitting twice.
that was a bug. it was "fixed." it only hits once now. so ya, expect it to do half the dmg it did in 09.
Pherdnut
04-03-2005, 03:04
If you manage to get 10-11 plus skills, with full mastery that's about 1500-2000 points of damage every 1.3 seconds. At 194 times, that's roughly 291,000-388,000 points of damage over the course of 4 minutes and 24 seconds. Not bad for 19 points of mana but it kills too slow to be a primary attack. Synergies are tight, but there may be some possibilities. In any case, it sure beats the heck out of Ravens as a slow, over-time killer even if it doesn't blind.
Slimmed Down Charged Boltress/Orber w/Thunderstorm
I'm thinking
10 Charged Bolt
20 Lightning
1 Static Charge
20 thunderstorm
20 Lightning Mastery
1 Teleport
3 Prereqs
1 Warmth
20 Frozen Orb
9 Cold Mastery
5 prereqs
Thunder Enchantress
20 Thunderstorm
20 Mastery
1 Static Charge
1 Teleport
5 prereqs
Warmth 20
Enchant 20
Mastery 20
2 Prereqs
1 Freezing Armor
With about 10 +all skills and the right combo of GCs I'm thinking any of these could perfectly viable although not quite as deadly of a boss killer as a more typical sorc build.
Now let's see somebody post Hydra stats up to 50 :)
If you're using an enchantress or EnergyShield build where most attacks are made with a weapon and skills are basically cast and forget. Thunderstorm can be an added advantage.
With the new dream setup your already placing tons of points in LM why not add points into Thunderstorm, let the Tstorm go off while you hack away with enchant and dream combo.
skill setup.
20 warmth
20 enchant
20 firemastery
20 lightning mastery
20 Tstorm
rest in prereqs
You increase fire mastery last with 1 point to start it. It's a helping skill not a main killer but, still effective.
Oh and by the way with the above setup and the 20 +skills you're using for the dream setup anyways, you will have Lightning Damage: 2564-3176 per strike. And thats 286 strikes for a total of 733,340 minimum damage for 19 mana points. :) small worthless skill I think not.
thats pretty worthless when u duel a zealot and they kill you with one zeal, good luck lasting 2 minutes
Hopeful but not Probable
Lord Nyax
25-03-2006, 17:04
Wow. Way to rain on his parade...man I hope this thread isn't 10 years old...I would feel dumb...
EDIT: I feel dumb....
just incase anyone ever ever reads this thread again, thunderstorm is completely viable when holding infinity. i had 3k damage with my sorc, and some people reported 1k damage per hit, all i needed to do was teleport around (completely randomly) until they died.
problem came when ppl stacked res.
or toss on another main attack skill to beef the damge even more...orb is a good one since it spams the screen so well...just tele and cast with little regard to if you are acctually hitting with orb...painful...and at that damage point TS should cause a hit recovery animation in most chars witch can disrupt many attacks...further increasing the usefulness of TS as a attack spell...can it be cast in town?
omgwtfbbqpwned
09-03-2008, 07:22
Sorry for bringing up an old thread.
I've played plenty of Sorcs and I'm running out of builds... so I just wanted to fool around with TS for a bit in a Firewall/TS build.
I have +14 Lightning skills total on this planned Sorceress... how viable is that for Hell PvM with a level 20 TS and a level 15 LM (+14)?
Using the chart, I see a slvl 34 corresponds to 231 bolts... what does this mean? Every 12.8 seconds, up to 231 monsters will be hit with one bolt of TS?
sirpoopsalot
09-03-2008, 10:01
Multiple Choice:
1. I think it means that you're a noob for wanting to try TS.
2. I think it means that at level34, TS will release 231 bolts during its casting duration. Since the spell lasts for 296 seconds at that level, that means that once every 1.28 seconds (on average) a bolt is going to come down and zap a single monster... or something like that.
3. I have no idea what it means.
... I'm leaning towards option #1, but #3 is a very strong possibility too. :grin:
PS. And I know what you're saying about trying new skills. I think Blaze, TS, and Inferno are the only ones I have left to seriously try (max-damage IceBlast, as well as FrostNova, were both kindof fun - if you haven't tried a spammer-cold sorc, you should; with the mastery and the spam, they actually do very well).
Using the chart, I see a slvl 34 corresponds to 231 bolts... what does this mean? Every 12.8 seconds, up to 231 monsters will be hit with one bolt of TS?
Man, I wish that was the case! TS would be hands down the best Lightning skill at that rate if it could slay so many demons with one mighty bolt. TS isn't so useful as a primary skill in its own right but it does work as an additional source of damage on say a Nova/ES build, which is obviously in love with Lightning skills.
omgwtfbbqpwned
09-03-2008, 20:44
Multiple Choice:
1. I think it means that you're a noob for wanting to try TS.
2. I think it means that at level34, TS will release 231 bolts during its casting duration. Since the spell lasts for 296 seconds at that level, that means that once every 1.28 seconds (on average) a bolt is going to come down and zap a single monster... or something like that.
3. I have no idea what it means.
... I'm leaning towards option #1, but #3 is a very strong possibility too. :grin:
PS. And I know what you're saying about trying new skills. I think Blaze, TS, and Inferno are the only ones I have left to seriously try (max-damage IceBlast, as well as FrostNova, were both kindof fun - if you haven't tried a spammer-cold sorc, you should; with the mastery and the spam, they actually do very well).
Hey, don't hate, I thought you were a noob too for trying Frost Nova and look how well it turned out. :grin: And yes, a Frost Nova is on my list of Sorc builds to make (mostly due to your mat thread :neener:) but I'm done with the Ice tree for a while.
On a side note, ICE BLAST? Link me to your Ice Blasting mat please, I wanna see some specs. :shocked: Why not Glacial Spike?
@maiku: Yah, it was 4am when I wrote that, lol, I suffered a brainfart. I think it would be a lot better if they increased the number of targets with slvl. Still... how viable is TS? Is it just so much suck that I'll never expect it to kill a screen of monsters after 5 minutes? Would it even add much damage as a secondary skill?
sirpoopsalot
09-03-2008, 21:16
On a side note, ICE BLAST? Link me to your Ice Blasting mat please, I wanna see some specs. :shocked: Why not Glacial Spike?
I haven't done a writeup yet. I chose IB instead of GS because of the damage when synergized, and I managed to get over 7k (casting at 8 frames, before mastery!!!), so it totally obliterates non-CI monsters. I was hoping it would compare to a Blizzy on AT runs (because of the focused damage and non-timered spell), but alas, because of the lack of area of effect, it's still not as effective (however, mathematically, it actually has comparable/superior damage to Blizzard). The slower missiles are a little limiting too (but you get to aim them at your target, so you don't have those moments of a monster walking unscathed through four blizzards).
I might try my hand at a little PvP once I get a higher level, but otherwise I'm probably not going to do a proper writeup (she stopped after rescuing Anya anyways).
@maiku: Yah, it was 4am when I wrote that, lol, I suffered a brainfart. I think it would be a lot better if they increased the number of targets with slvl. Still... how viable is TS? Is it just so much suck that I'll never expect it to kill a screen of monsters after 5 minutes? Would it even add much damage as a secondary skill?
Well, level35 is something like ~1800 damage per bolt (before resistances :undecided:)... at one bolt per ~1.5 seconds, you might be able to damage 5 monsters faster than they regenerate... but just barely. Throw 15 monsters in that pack, and I think you would stand around forever and not kill anything. As a second lightning skill (or for PvP), it has a little more use, simply because you do get moderately reasonable supplimental damage, for a small investment, and it is "cast and forget" with the auto-fire/auto-hit.
omgwtfbbqpwned
09-03-2008, 21:48
Oh poops, you and your discouragement. :tongue:
I'm still making my Firewall/TS sorc. :neener:
I'll be waiting for that write up if it ever comes.
sirpoopsalot
09-03-2008, 22:23
I'm still making my Firewall/TS sorc. :neener:
glad to hear it... I'm wondering if a Cold-Wolf merc is a good one for this project. :cool:
@maiku: Yah, it was 4am when I wrote that, lol, I suffered a brainfart. I think it would be a lot better if they increased the number of targets with slvl. Still... how viable is TS? Is it just so much suck that I'll never expect it to kill a screen of monsters after 5 minutes? Would it even add much damage as a secondary skill?
I think it's probably a little underwhelming. You'd want a lot of -% enemy resist or -% lightning resist if you were to ever to use it, so that it would do decent damage per zap, and even then it would probably only be able to take out weakened monsters. Maybe I will give it a try sometime.
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