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Hi im planning to make a orb Eshield sorc, just finished gathering up all i need for her except a good nightwings. Her equipment is actually what im worried over, I havent played a sorc since .9 and I need to know what kind of cast rate im gonna need to pull this off. Im definetly going block with a sanc so lidless is out of the question, Nightwings has no cast and my ****ty 19% deaths fathom only has 20 cast. Do I go 68% and have incredible mana and better dmg or should I aim for 105%.
Here's possible equip's
Nightwings veil
Deaths Fathom
2x Soj or cast ring +1 soj
Ormus with +teleport
Vipermagi
2 Sorc 20 cast ammy
Magefists
Frostburns
Sandstorm trek
Tower Sanc 69 res
Another thing im worried about, Am I stuck in one place for awhile after I orb or can I just tele away and wait for the cooldown elsewhere. There are alot of trapsins out there -_-.
combatman
06-02-2005, 20:15
I have dueled with my orb/es sorc now for over 6 moonths and have a slightly different setup then yours. I use shako instead nw, uppedviper, arachnid(so i dont need magefist), maras and storm/sanctuary for fohers,...
With this setup i have 70 fcast, a lot of rezists,mana life, and i find it sufficent. I have trouble against fireball sorc,trappers..., ather sorc are usualy a piece of cake.U know i am not actualy a pure anticaster but more all rounder.
About the orb question,, yes in 1.1 when u hit orb u stay in one place for a short period of time and u are unable to teleport straight away.Its a annoying thingy but u will get used to it.
ugh why storm? Zharous specifically states its useless I believe unless your eshield cracks vs barbs. Btw I'd like to know why you chose shako over nightwings, is your orb dmg that good without it? I hope to be good vs Fireballers and Trapsins, -.-.
Supah_Boi
07-02-2005, 00:53
I have dueled with my orb/es sorc now for over 6 moonths and have a slightly different setup then yours. I use shako instead nw, uppedviper, arachnid(so i dont need magefist), maras and storm/sanctuary for fohers,...
With this setup i have 70 fcast, a lot of rezists,mana life, and i find it sufficent. I have trouble against fireball sorc,trappers..., ather sorc are usualy a piece of cake.U know i am not actualy a pure anticaster but more all rounder.
About the orb question,, yes in 1.1 when u hit orb u stay in one place for a short period of time and u are unable to teleport straight away.Its a annoying thingy but u will get used to it.
FB Sorcs aren't that hard to deal with..
cheesypotatoes
07-02-2005, 03:19
FB Sorcs aren't that hard to deal with..
Except for my Fb Sorc ;)
Supah_Boi
07-02-2005, 04:58
Except for my Fb Sorc ;)
Heh, I'll just tele all day..:lol:
AndyChrono
07-02-2005, 05:20
FO/ES vs. 200 FCR FB sorc is just a massive defensive battle. Extremely boring to watch and even more boring to play.
combatman
07-02-2005, 10:19
I choose storm against barbs ,smiters,bow amans,wwassns, not to mention that i am almost imortal for pvm,,Most barbs just tickels me until my mana drain, after that i tele away but in most cases they are dead.
Some fire sorc are very difficult to kill, they need 2-3 hits to kill u so dont tell me that they are easy to kill.
I choose shako simple becouse of the stats.It is more a matter of taste what u like more. With shako i got 1.25k dmg and i find it sufficient.
Yea....my fathoms % is 19 so I dun think im gonna be pulling off massive dmg. even after I waste a 5/5 in it.
evild2player
12-02-2005, 02:07
Get rid of the fathom or the nightwing. Sure it's been awhile since I've played Diablo, but I know what I'm talking about =]. If you replace Nightwing with shako
as combatman said, the stat boost is worth it. If it were my sorc I would just use something like hoto(are these things still in use? O.o) and shako. I was obsessed with fcr. All my sorcs had to hit atleast 105 o_O. Well, pvp anyways.
I also would choose vipermagi over ormus. Don't know why, except for that vipermagi has res and 10 more fcr than ormus.
30 + 40 + 20 + 20 is 110. Yeah my damage isn't good but I always do prefer survival over everything else..
edit: Oops, forgot to say anything about the fcr. Sure orb has a timer but I love teleporting really fast.
edit2: If you are nonladder, you could always consider using armaggeddon fletch for another 20 fcr. Ditch the gloves and use frostburns for more mana.
ps. I seriously haven't played Diablo in a long time, and won't come back. So my memory and judgement are kind of fuzzy.
Unless you are extremely rich and fill your inventory with 20/17 life manas and +1 cold/40 life GCs then Nightwing/Ormus are not usually worth it. I tend to teleport extremely defensively and found that against other defensive players, you will depend more and more on your teleporting skill to avoid damage instead of trying to tank it with your life + mana pool. Hense, stats aren't as important.
Second, don't forget to walk. That's right, walk. After shooting an orb, walk a short distance, then teleport again. Probably will double your survivability and dodging skills, instead of just "standing around" after firing an orb and waiting the 1/2 second before you can teleport away.
parkerbsb
21-02-2005, 14:52
Edited to remove my stupid double post sorry...
parkerbsb
21-02-2005, 14:52
Something baffles me here, why is anyone mentioning anything about resists? If you have a high enough Esheild it [resists] really don't matter much. Esehild dosen't take into account resists. If you are serious about getting to the 105 FCR you really need to get to 115... (I havn't read anywhere or seen anything about the 105 FCR bug being fixed).
Get rid of the fathom or the nightwing. Sure it's been awhile since I've played Diablo, but I know what I'm talking about =]. If you replace Nightwing with shako
as combatman said, the stat boost is worth it. If it were my sorc I would just use something like hoto(are these things still in use? O.o) and shako. I was obsessed with fcr. All my sorcs had to hit atleast 105 o_O. Well, pvp anyways.
I also would choose vipermagi over ormus. Don't know why, except for that vipermagi has res and 10 more fcr than ormus.
30 + 40 + 20 + 20 is 110. Yeah my damage isn't good but I always do prefer survival over everything else..
edit: Oops, forgot to say anything about the fcr. Sure orb has a timer but I love teleporting really fast.
edit2: If you are nonladder, you could always consider using armaggeddon fletch for another 20 fcr. Ditch the gloves and use frostburns for more mana.
ps. I seriously haven't played Diablo in a long time, and won't come back. So my memory and judgement are kind of fuzzy.
Actually I will disagree. A good fathom and perf. nightwing add huge damage. I have not played my orb/es in a while yet my pref and what I use is:
15% nightwing with 5/5 cold facet.
30% fathom with 5/5 cold facet.
30% Mara's Currently, have not found a godly +3 cold with life or other ammy.
Upped vamp with 5/5 cold facet.
frostburns
2 Soj's
35% spirit shield (I am on ladder)
Arach Belt
sandstorm boots
Anni
10 Light skill charms/one with 12% FHR and 9 with 35+ life
9 small charms with 15+ life/14+ mana
CTA +6 with a bad spirit monarch for the shield with CTA
I do have a ES staff with +9 which If I was not so lazy I would prebuff and dump the light charms and go all small life/mana yet on ladder the smalls are hard to come by.
My damage is a little over 1200 orb
My life is somewhere around 1400 - 1600 yet can not remember exactly. Have to look later hehe.
My mana pool is 3300, could be better along with life if I prebuff with staff and use all small life/mana charms.
The problem with this build is that at least on ladder if you are good at teleing you pretty much win vs all in dueling channels and it gets boring after a while to duel. At least that is my opinion.
The nightwing and fathom with the facets adds huge damage. Sure shako adds some life and mana but the +'s do not work with CTA.
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