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MrGoth
06-02-2005, 02:08
On a scale from 1 to 10 {1 being "wimpy", 10 being "your a dimwit for thinking about this", how suicidal would starting season 3 with an untwinked pure fire mage {lvl 1 oak, trying to max all 5 fire elemental spells}, that is built to use an earthshifter, on hardcore, be? And how long / where do you think i'll get my death screen at?
Garbad_the_Weak
06-02-2005, 02:16
And how long / where do you think i'll get my death screen at?Act 2 sewers. One bad volley and those archer packs own you. Plus they resist your dmg and all you have is firestorm at that point.

gogo suck life and fhr.

Garbad
Death_Frog
06-02-2005, 02:16
1st death at andariel...
tdaddy
06-02-2005, 04:02
i would say durance
dkay
06-02-2005, 07:05
depends
is oak ur only summon? if so then ull die prolly at act2 or 3
if summons... ill give u act4
det
06-02-2005, 12:07
Hm...Personally I think you can make it to hell without dying...I mean..you can't use an Earthshifter until lv...whatever it is, it is very high anyhow..so until then you can use a shield, play through normal with a melee weapon and have resist gear.

I mean...you are not saying you are REQUIRED to only use your fire spells... so you can melee..or use a bow, right? And Fissue is a killer, specially if you have invested in firestorm from lv 1 onwards.

Duriel is a huge pain. I took him on with my elemental summoner when he was my first HC character this season. It took ages.
Andy2702
06-02-2005, 23:09
Den of evil!

jk, I think hey might last to about act 2 canyon or duriel.
corax
07-02-2005, 00:19
wouldn't be too difficult to pat. depends on how good a player you are
digital_mana
07-02-2005, 05:02
I think it would probably take you to about act 4...
Krazy_Solo
07-02-2005, 06:41
From my personal experience in 1.09 with summon/fire hybrid I started to see a twist to bad luck once you fight council.

So I'm gonna say you will find defeat without some meat shield against Meph guaranteed...
det
07-02-2005, 07:00
...and how is the score so far? Have you even started yet?
Jek
07-02-2005, 14:26
From my personal experience in 1.09 with summon/fire hybrid I started to see a twist to bad luck once you fight council.

So I'm gonna say you will find defeat without some meat shield against Meph guaranteed...

A pure fire druid will go through normal easily naked, so I would guess an archer pack in nightmare - or if you may use shields until you reach the req for the maul, hell. :)
Aerath
07-02-2005, 23:06
You shouldn't run into any major problems till late NM/start Hell.

By then Fire Immunes are all over the place and you really need to depend on that merc...

Let's be optimistic here... FE/LE Bartuc on NM

:lol:
MrGoth
08-02-2005, 00:20
Jek and garb are most likely right. I've built 4 full fire mages {4.5, one never got past 41}, and i always push all my charactres threw the game unrushed.

Det, this is going to be for season 3 ladder hc.

I plan on only using sage as my summon, but either using a holy freeze with the pole arm with conviction to help with fire immunes, or a prayer merc with the pole arm with meditation for double healing. Not sure which one yet...any ideas?
det
08-02-2005, 08:49
The conviction aura runeword is quiet costly, so apparently you expect to be lucky in finding runes. A very expensive experiment.

I play through the game right now with an untwinked group and in 8 ppl hell games, killing with fire is painful. I did a solo game however yesterday and found that Volcano is quiet able to kill Fire Immunes.

I now have:

20 Firestorm
22 Boulder
25 Fissue
25 Volcano
12 Oak
1 Grizzly

Barb merc who will eventually get a Lawbringer.

Playing HC ladder...so I stick to my suggestion that you can indeed survive for a long time. Once you start using the Earthshifter, I expect death...Maybe a point or 2 in Cyclone armour will help. It should be quiet strong with your + skills.
Uzziah
09-02-2005, 12:42
Fire elemental side gives both fire and physical, if you park monsters (only those immune to both physical/fire then you could make it through Hell. take your time and you should be able to make it.

A shield and high dex are a must, also patients and preplanned fights. I would only play this in a solo game though, infact single player would be a much better way to go do to the possible lag situation. you're going to be fighting this build from mid-late nightmare onwards, but is it doable.

Good luck with the hell ancients 99/100 times one of them goes fire immune.
MrGoth
09-02-2005, 13:48
Good luck with the hell ancients 99/100 times one of them goes fire immune.

What i usualy do there is fill my inventory with full tp tomes / scrolls. I can usualy kick it down to if i'm lucky one fire immune thats not stone skined/other bad mod.
Voice
09-02-2005, 17:48
Getting through norm would be easy as it should be for almost any build. Hell I got a pure curse necro to diablo nm (merc kept dying and got to costly to raise him) so I died. That was no summon and no pnb skills.

I would say getting through nm wouldnt be bad if you shopped a lt wand that would enable your merc to stay alive a lot easier. D in nm will be your biggest problem i think. I dont know what other fire immunes there are in nm though. I would personally say act 4 is where you would die first.
psuedoenviro
10-02-2005, 00:06
Dead act 1 hell when you run into fire immune fanat pack of carvers while carrying that earthshifter. 2 handed item + high str req = very low vita + no block.

Fire casters are excellent untwinked chars since they don't have wait for lvl 24 or 30 before spending skill points. A lower resists wand and sheild before you equipt earthshifter will easily get you through nm. Holy freeze merc would make life easier.