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ssunger
03-02-2005, 21:20
hey guys

right now ive got a rabie/fury druid. he is lvl 75 and stats and equip is------>
----->jalal, carrion, raven, nigma, botd zerk, ss shield, trang glove, gore, and mara for ammy.
------>vitality:almost 280, dex:almost 150, str: almost 180 with gear

the problem is that i basically owned all the charater with no problem except barb with tele ww.......

is there any trick to beat barb with my druid???

help me out~

ssunger
03-02-2005, 21:21
one more question.....is cta and lidless worth for my druid, i got like 3.5k life without those....thx

GIR
03-02-2005, 21:42
one more question.....is cta and lidless worth for my druid, i got like 3.5k life without those....thx


I think CtA and a Spirit would be better, since you already have the Strength for a Monarch.

ssunger
03-02-2005, 21:46
I think CtA and a Spirit would be better, since you already have the Strength for a Monarch.
my oak sage is now lvl 12 with all the skills from equipment....doesnt metter i start pumping points into spirit????

GIR
03-02-2005, 21:49
my oak sage is now lvl 12 with all the skills from equipment....doesnt metter i start pumping points into spirit????

I think you're thinking I meant Oak Sage. What I meant was use a Spirit Shield [New Runeword] in place of the Lidless, since it gives +2 to All Skills instead of the +1 from a Lidless.

ssunger
03-02-2005, 21:52
im thinking to make my druid to lvl 85 or few more........so i will have about 10 or more skill to put it in........anyways im not sure maxing oak sage cuz i already start it or juss 10points into spirit.....arg....

p.s. its really fun to use rabie lol. its fun to see every other oponent get infected by a one guy......and doesnt even know how did he died by me......he goes like s**t druid u laggggzzz crazy!!get out!@@!!#

ssunger
03-02-2005, 21:58
I think you're thinking I meant Oak Sage. What I meant was use a Spirit Shield [New Runeword] in place of the Lidless, since it gives +2 to All Skills instead of the +1 from a Lidless.
lol so sry, i misunderstood..........im palying in nl.......spirit? first time hearing about that runeword......anyways how do u guys kill barb???

GIR
03-02-2005, 22:02
lol so sry, i misunderstood..........im palying in nl.......spirit? first time hearing about that runeword......anyways how do u guys kill barb???

Ah, NL, that's why you haven't really heard of it. Nevermind then, the new Runewords are Ladder Only. Go with the Lidless in that case.

ssunger
03-02-2005, 22:06
Ah, NL, that's why you haven't really heard of it. Nevermind then, the new Runewords are Ladder Only. Go with the Lidless in that case.
icic....i made my druid as rabie/fury because i dont wanna run afater the bite....it works well except barb....doesnt seem his life go down and hard to shift+fury a ww barb......

DragonKnight_Aka
04-02-2005, 16:23
Well 2-handed and barbs that use 2 weapons in each hand or easier to beat. Don't run after a barb cuz u get hit more. It's best just to stand their and use shift+ fury or first shift rabies then fury. Make sure u have max dr and max block. Good luck

befkonijn
04-02-2005, 16:27
Well 2-handed and barbs that use 2 weapons in each hand or easier to beat. Don't run after a barb cuz u get hit more. It's best just to stand their and use shift+ fury or first shift rabies then fury. Make sure u have max dr and max block. Good luck

k this looks useful... so instead of highlighting baba while ww'ing just stand shift fire claw/rabbies (in my case) ?

i have verdungo 15%, storm max block and coh /enigma (hell/normal) will it work then?

grtz bef

ssunger
04-02-2005, 17:28
how much is the max dr?? is it like 50%??
is enigma better or bramble better?
im thinking of using bramble for melee char and nigma for casters because i need f/r....
also, one more question.....how do u kill fire sorcs????i dueled some fire sorc yesterday......and it was impossible to kill them.....since i have to run to them and rabie, they juss stand their and fire fireballs and one fire make my life go down and trun me into regular ugly tall druid.....thats sad....

aznbboi16
04-02-2005, 17:52
Against a ww barb, do NOT just stand there and shift fury. You cannot tank a ww barb with fury.

First avoid his ww's and rabies him when he stops, or shift rabies him. After you've infected him, do not try to tank. Walk around him and avoid his whirls. Let rabies drain him, reinfect as needed. When he starts getting low, start shift furying him, but don't let him triangle whirl you.

ssunger
04-02-2005, 17:58
Against a ww barb, do NOT just stand there and shift fury. You cannot tank a ww barb with fury.

First avoid his ww's and rabies him when he stops, or shift rabies him. After you've infected him, do not try to tank. Walk around him and avoid his whirls. Let rabies drain him, reinfect as needed. When he starts getting low, start shift furying him, but don't let him triangle whirl you.
o~~that sounds good......but they keep calling me noob for avoiding them and running away from them after rabie....anyways that sounds good and i think thats the only way to kill barb....thx

p.s wat about fire sorc??

GIR
04-02-2005, 18:27
o~~that sounds good......but they keep calling me noob for avoiding them and running away from them after rabie....anyways that sounds good and i think thats the only way to kill barb....thx

p.s wat about fire sorc??

Anytime you're beating someone in a duel, you're a noob. If they beat you, you're a noob.

That's just how b.net works.

ssunger
04-02-2005, 18:50
Anytime you're beating someone in a duel, you're a noob. If they beat you, you're a noob.

That's just how b.net works.
ahahahaha thats sounds right.......i always been told noob even though i beat them....im curious how old is this people keep saying noob to me....i think im old enough to handle maself to do no noobish things.....anyways game is game and im having fun with my druid now even though they call me my built is noob built

DragonKnight_Aka
04-02-2005, 18:57
U can use 95 fire resist or 2 drawf stars should be good enough. Don't over abosrb. If the sorc dosen't do alot of damage with 2 drawf stars then take 1 off or both off if u want a challage. We should have a ryhmeing contest using noob.
noob = hood=would=should thats all I can think of lol

u need the max block formula to find how much dex u need to get max block with a ss or w/e shield u use

ssunger
04-02-2005, 19:05
U can use 95 fire resist or 2 drawf stars should be good enough. Don't over abosrb. If the sorc dosen't do alot of damage with 2 drawf stars then take 1 off or both off if u want a challage. We should have a ryhmeing contest using noob.
noob = hood=would=should thats all I can think of lol

u need the max block formula to find how much dex u need to get max block with a ss or w/e shield u use
right now, i have max block with ss shield and almost 45% dr.....but i cant use 2 dwalf star because of carrion ring. i think 1 is not enough for those fire sorc with fcr. 1,2 hit im dead....sight

DragonKnight_Aka
04-02-2005, 22:07
Ss + vendgos should give u full. Or ss and enigma , ss + coh and etc. Ss gives 35% so all u need is 15% more dr and u should have full. For sorcs u should just let dem come to u. Fireball sorcs have a weakness which is fireballs go straight. So if they shoot fireballs north they go north. They aren't like guided arrows following u. So u could just run cricles around a sorc who scrolls and she wouldn't hit u. Make sure u have good run and walk , fhr, and of course resist. Thier people who say u should go 2-handed so try it. If u choose to use a shield then make a shield with 4 prefect diaomnds or 4 ums ( if u want to ) or even 4 perfect rubies but since fire sorcs don't really lower ur resist 4 won't be needed u could use 2 and use a rune that increase ur maxium fire resist. If u duel a sorc just piss her off by dodging fireballs. If she casts moteor on herself I really won't go in unless she has like 1 hit point lefted. Since so many people think werewolfs suck they might even tele on u. U can ketp running until they end up getting to close. Maybe someone on here has better advice dueling a fireball sorc with a werewolf.

P.S. Fireball sorcs are fast. If a sorc comes near u should attack from the side so u dodge some fireballs. I been hit by fireballs and end up running slow to dem and dieing.

onom
05-02-2005, 03:44
i dont think 150 dex is enough to have max block with ss, that and you should level up some more, cta is a good idea for pub dueling and if its a ww baba go to a corner (where the river and the wall meets) and wait for him to come after you, they cant ww very good in a corner and when he is tryin to you can rabies/fury him get alot of ar too hehe

Artemus
05-02-2005, 11:43
How to kill ww barbs with a Rabies Druid (quite easy actually) ;)

1. First off hit him once or twice with Rabies so his life start to go doooown.
2. Press walk mode and just walk around him without attacking, while his life turns to 1.
3. Hit him once with either Rabies or Fury.
4. Barb is dead.
5. Rabies Won

- Artemus :)

ssunger
05-02-2005, 17:17
wow....thats really simple....i like the idea of cornering him lol......barb got so much life and it takes forever to wait his life goes down....by the way my rabie is 50k and fury is 5k

Buda450
05-02-2005, 23:07
wow....thats really simple....i like the idea of cornering him lol......barb got so much life and it takes forever to wait his life goes down....by the way my rabie is 50k and fury is 5k

50k rabies is very nice. Try and get your hands on a 4socketed psn jewel facet sheild and Death's Web wand. Then with -75%/25% to -52%/15% -psn/psn %dmg added even barbs go down easy.
Put this in your switch, and as soon as you hit them run to a safer place and press w , w again to switch back. you won't see any items being switch because your in wolf mode.


Try to get perfect -25% psn Grief PS from when ladder is over. I need to try this my self.

Krazy_Solo
06-02-2005, 04:16
That might work against noobs but not skilled Barb duelers.

For one the second a barb starts to attack the fight is over.

Druid's have no defense against the Barb (Rabies does no damage to my barbs "75% Poison resist in hell"). So conclusion Barb > Druid in even skilled fight.

aznbboi16
06-02-2005, 06:51
That might work against noobs but not skilled Barb duelers.

For one the second a barb starts to attack the fight is over.

Druid's have no defense against the Barb (Rabies does no damage to my barbs "75% Poison resist in hell"). So conclusion Barb > Druid in even skilled fight.

Now there is some insight on the topic :rolleyes:

I'll take you up on that challenge. I rarely lose to barbs unless they stack with 90+% max poison resist and use Death gloves...but where's the fun in that.
Still missing a few psn facets too.

USWest
*ehhh

Redman681
06-02-2005, 07:37
That might work against noobs but not skilled Barb duelers.

For one the second a barb starts to attack the fight is over.

Druid's have no defense against the Barb (Rabies does no damage to my barbs "75% Poison resist in hell"). So conclusion Barb > Druid in even skilled fight.


Your res might not be that well after getting bit with equip that gives -75% res...

aznbboi16
06-02-2005, 09:59
Not to mention that 75% Psn resist only reduces rabies to ~1.5k dmg.

ssunger
07-02-2005, 15:19
Not to mention that 75% Psn resist only reduces rabies to ~1.5k dmg.
how much rabie u guys have??? and i think instead of cta ill use death wand...it looked awsome for rabies......

p.s. i owned few barbs with the tactics lol and became noob....anyways thx guys for help

Garbad_the_Weak
07-02-2005, 15:42
Now there is some insight on the topic :rolleyes:

I'll take you up on that challenge. I rarely lose to barbs unless they stack with 90+% max poison resist and use Death gloves...but where's the fun in that.
Still missing a few psn facets too.

USWest
*ehhhJon, Ill go against you with no stack, max resists, or anything else. Just WW vs rabies.

I'll report back here how many of 10 he gets, if any.

Garbad

ssunger
07-02-2005, 17:02
Jon, Ill go against you with no stack, max resists, or anything else. Just WW vs rabies.

I'll report back here how many of 10 he gets, if any.

Garbad
thats gonna be fun.....u guys are in west?? i wanna see the result though....

aznbboi16
07-02-2005, 19:45
Jon, Ill go against you with no stack, max resists, or anything else. Just WW vs rabies.

I'll report back here how many of 10 he gets, if any.

Garbad

Alright. He said he could do it in hell, so not nightmare. Look for me in the channel after my classes are over (4:30ish EST).

I've beaten both of dull's barbs, biko's barb, blert's I think, and every pub barb I've met. And remember that Druid vs Barb game? Yeah.

ssunger
07-02-2005, 21:25
Alright. He said he could do it in hell, so not nightmare. Look for me in the channel after my classes are over (4:30ish EST).

I've beaten both of dull's barbs, biko's barb, blert's I think, and every pub barb I've met. And remember that Druid vs Barb game? Yeah.
damn u a barb killa?

ssunger
07-02-2005, 21:28
Alright. He said he could do it in hell, so not nightmare. Look for me in the channel after my classes are over (4:30ish EST).

I've beaten both of dull's barbs, biko's barb, blert's I think, and every pub barb I've met. And remember that Druid vs Barb game? Yeah.
wow, aznbboi, wat is ur rabie druid equip with???im really curious......if u list wat u wear, can i copy???doesnt matter i think cause i play in east :thumbsup:

aznbboi16
08-02-2005, 01:35
No I'm not really a barb killer, they're just pretty easy to avoid in a run/walk environment (Clan-Honor doesn't allow teleport), and pub barbs usually just aren't very good.

I use:

3x ED/IAS + Lo Gris Caddy / Death Web on switch
Stormshield / Stormshield
Jalal
Enigma Mage Plate
Verdungos
Trang Gloves
Gore riders or IK Boots
Highlords
Ravenfrost / Carrion Wind

20/19/8 Anni
10x 31-39 Life Shapeshift GCs
Assorted FR/W, max/ar, resist sc's (these need upgrading)

Didn't see you around Garbad...why is that? :uhhuh:

Garbad_the_Weak
08-02-2005, 02:09
I'm in the channel waiting.

Garbad

lucrativelyrics
14-02-2005, 07:42
my best luck against barbs ( even ones using botd , and 30 k d ) is turn off run , and click close to him till he passes you ( try to sidestep) then stand still and fury him to death , i suggest to leave rabies out of this one cause furys multiple hits in my opinion works better ( better flow of constant dmg)

LanfEphtptatcotf
14-02-2005, 13:23
I'm in the channel waiting.

Garbad

so wahts the results .. ?

aznbboi16
15-02-2005, 02:48
We dueled once, and I beat him with over half my life left. Do note that this is a no teleport environment. With teleport winning would be a bit harder, although I'm still confident I could take most barbs if they don't stack resist.

LanfEphtptatcotf
16-02-2005, 13:42
No I'm not really a barb killer, they're just pretty easy to avoid in a run/walk environment (Clan-Honor doesn't allow teleport), and pub barbs usually just aren't very good.

I use:

3x ED/IAS + Lo Gris Caddy / Death Web on switch
Stormshield / Stormshield
Jalal
Enigma Mage Plate
Verdungos
Trang Gloves
Gore riders or IK Boots
Highlords
Ravenfrost / Carrion Wind

20/19/8 Anni
10x 31-39 Life Shapeshift GCs
Assorted FR/W, max/ar, resist sc's (these need upgrading)

Didn't see you around Garbad...why is that? :uhhuh:

how much rabies damage do you do ?

jTF2
17-02-2005, 02:12
whoa.. ive got to try this build asap!