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My skellies are as strong as they're getting..and they're doing decent...but act 4 in hell has stopped them cold...and my merc keeps dieing, and now i cant even affoard to get him back...lol. any ideas?
OldSkoolGamer
03-02-2005, 07:13
Where is your merc is dying in act 4? If it is the Chaos Sanctuary, take off his weapon to avoid him doing so much damage to himself when he gets Iron Maidened.
If it is earlier, say Izual, make sure your merc has enough resists and that you have at least one point in Summon Resist.
ok...and the fact he's trying to fight tons of guys cause my skellies are getting eaten up, and they are like lvl 26 with mastery 28
OldSkoolGamer
03-02-2005, 09:21
Put Lifetap on a hotkey.
If your merc is getting close to death, LT the group that he is working on. Once his health is back up, switch back to Amp or Decrepify whatever your curse of choice may be.
Even with a lower powered weapon (many of my mercs use non-ethereal Grims or Strength runeword weapons) the Tap should keep him alive.
Also, try and get your merc to turn on his aura before you raise your army. If he is in a big group of skeletons it can take a while for him to start it up.
Myrakh-2
03-02-2005, 09:23
You skellies are still somewhat low-level, so you need to be more protective. Aside from using AI curses --- did you try to Decrepify the crowd? You can switch back to Amp right before you start your Corpse Explosion, but until then...
my skellies are max'ed...i picked this setup because supposedly the summoner can handle the game byhimself completely untwinked, and its my first char since i came back...so hes untwinked(well kinda, some friends gave me some gear, but he's still not all that strong). :(
Mad Mantis
03-02-2005, 10:39
my skellies are max'ed...i picked this setup because supposedly the summoner can handle the game byhimself completely untwinked, and its my first char since i came back...so hes untwinked(well kinda, some friends gave me some gear, but he's still not all that strong). :(
What is you level? Most people make the mistake of trying to fight in Hell too early. Take things slowly and you will do alright.
Be sure to use curses to help out your army. Just Amp isn't going to cut it if you are going untwinked. You need some DV to keep ranged attackers busy, Attract to tie up mobs and Decrep to take care of the big strong guys. Use LT if your Merc is about to die. Don't underestimate Terror. It is better to chase down a few monsters than to constantly have to resurrect your Merc.
Make good use of the Golem as a crowd control devise. He can take the heat away from your Merc.
Myrakh-2
03-02-2005, 10:49
my skellies are max'ed...i picked this setup because supposedly the summoner can handle the game byhimself completely untwinked
"Untwinked" is not exactly the same as "wiping the floor with the monsters". At some point you can just Amp everything, wait a bit, cast a few CEs, pickup the loot and continue. Until you get there, you have to adapt a bit more to what's going on.
Some hints towards the "right direction" (or so I hope) have been given, but it's mostly a matter of experience --- experience with how the skills work, experience with how the monsters work, and experience with the game in general.
What is you level? Most people make the mistake of trying to fight in Hell too early. Take things slowly and you will do alright.
Be sure to use curses to help out your army. Just Amp isn't going to cut it if you are going untwinked. You need some DV to keep ranged attackers busy, Attract to tie up mobs and Decrep to take care of the big strong guys. Use LT if your Merc is about to die. Don't underestimate Terror. It is better to chase down a few monsters than to constantly have to resurrect your Merc.
Make good use of the Golem as a crowd control devise. He can take the heat away from your Merc.
As always, excellent advice Mantis. It is amazing how much better those skeles get when they no longer suffer a stiff "to hit" penalty and actually connect when they swing. AI curses are essential IMHO in the ladder stages of the game, so if you've invested in attract and confuse, this is a good place to learn how to use them. It makes life better when monsters turn around and fight their cousins behind them.
Revive, if you've got it, can help in especially tough situations, as well, although I would only reccommend 1 point. Frenzytaurs aren't nearly as scary when you've got a few on your side. I don't know how you're using your golem, but one technique is to drop him behind the monsters. They seem to like turning around and punching mud, taking some of the heat off of your more valuable minions. And finally, don't be afraid to keep a row of blue potions and use them; when a corpse falls, do something with it: raise it, revive it, or blow it up. Keep the bad guys cursed. Your job is to help your army. It can get busy for the right mouse button, but that is what a field general does.
ok im now lvl 77, gear = p topaz shako, trangs armor, trang gloves, wizspike, p diamond homun, marrows, verdungos, skellies and my curses can handle almost everything in the game. i am not capable of doing worldstone keep and baal bymyself. my minions get raped, no matter if i terror half the group, amp the other, life tap when they are low on health, etc. so where do i go now?
update: just got arm of leoric. dont know how much that will help, thought i'd add that here though
Mad Mantis
04-02-2005, 13:52
i am not capable of doing worldstone keep and baal bymyself. my minions get raped, no matter if i terror half the group, amp the other, life tap when they are low on health, etc. so where do i go now?
Level 77 is still pretty low to try and tackle the WSK and Throne.
How is you Merc doing? What is his level? What is his gear? Do you use Decrep and LT to keep him alive?
Are you using Revives? What breeds do you use? Do you assist them with curses or not?
Cotton gave some good advice about corpse usage. Make sure that you raise or explode everything that falls. Do not let a corpse go to waste.
Can you give me a more detailed description of your typical strategy when fighting Baal? Where do you stand? How difficult do you find the various waves? What do you raise and what not? What is your curse strategy?
appreciate all your help guys. believe it or not...the arm of leoric made the difference...i was able to tackle it...:)
appreciate all your help guys. believe it or not...the arm of leoric made the difference...i was able to tackle it...:)
Lots of applause from this end :worship:
Mad Mantis
04-02-2005, 15:28
appreciate all your help guys. believe it or not...the arm of leoric made the difference...i was able to tackle it...:)
Fantastic. Let's celebrate (http://www.lgl.bayern.de/de/left/fachinformationen/lebensmittel/warencodes/_images/bier.jpg)!
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