Dual MF build

[Myradin]

What would be best for pure mf only.

Last time I tried mfing with a pure cold sorc, since I dont have a very good merc it became quite difficult at times and I couldnt even run some bosses.

Now im gonna build a dual tree sorc, i dont mind if my mf runs will take a bit longer. I'm stuck with the following choices.

no. 1

Firewall - max
fire mastery - 20 at higher lvls.
Frozen Orb - maxed
Cold mastery - 17 with items.
Ice bolt

no.2

fireball - max
meteorb - max
fire mastery - max either this or fire bolt.
fire bolt - max either this or fire mastery
cold mastery - 17 with items
Frozen Orb - max

no.3

fireball - max
meteorb - max
blizzard - 20
glacical spike - max
cold mastery - 17 with items.

no.4

firewall - max
fire mastery - maxed at higher lvls.
blizzard - max
glacical spike - max
cold mastery - 17 with items.

Keep in mind plz that I plan to neglect block.

thamks in advance.

myradin

[Myradin]

maybe this will help out:

I plan to usea shield. Most likely a stormshield socketed with hel rune. So I will be aiming for max block.

also my following equipment will be looking like this.

Shako socketed with ptopaz
Amu, plus 2 cold skills with life, resis and mf.
Skullders ire (or tal armour)
occulus with ptopaz ( wizardspike ptopaz on switch)
war travelers.
Arachnid.
chance guards.
2x nagelrings.

I lean towards the firewall/firemastery/frozenorb/icebolt since it seems like it needs less skillpoints to be effective.

I need to now what will do more dmg: maxed firewall with firemastery or max meteorb with max fireball.

Thanks again.

[sorcees]

why occulus and wizzardspike with a ptopaz, it doesn't count for MF.
use ist for MF or jewels for resist.

best build is the cookiecutter meteorb, see guides.

[Black_Rose]

Less skillpoints to make something powerful doesnt help in this case, you'll be left with many unused skillpoints and won't be able to take any effective third attack.

I'd choose blizzard + firewall build at any time, but it requires either blocking or a very good mercenary.

Meteor + orb is always good, though a little slower.

Keep in mind, fire mastery doesn't have to be maxed to have an effective firewall. My firewalls is 20, mastery has only 1 point in it (with + skills its at 11), and firewall doesn 5.5k damage.

[Myradin]

thanks alot for the replies guys.

Sorcees thank you for reminding me. Almost forgot topaz doesnt work with shields and weapons. Thanks almost socketed it :S

Black_rose thank you, that's exactly what I was looking for as well. So firewall maxed with 1 point in FM gives near 5.5k dmg, I take it this is with plus skill items? then what would the dmg be the for a maxed FM and FW?

Also how much dmg(need some numbers please, rough guesses are very welcome as well) will I be doing with maxed Fireball and maxed Meterob?

The same for blizzard with maxed glacial spike as synergy?

[Black_Rose]

Damage highly depends on +skill items and my sorceress wears full tal set, which has a mod like +15% cold damage. I will undress her and tell the raw blizzard damage, with glacial and one other synergy maxed, leaving the last skill with something like 2-3 hard points (not much of a difference).

But mind you. The difference of every skill point after 20 is a big deal. With as little (as many) as +10 skills that I have, my blizzard does about 4.5k. And that is without counting in the lvl 22 cold mastery, in which I invested 10 hard skill points.

If you plan to go blizzard, then firewall without maxed mastery will be enough for those cold-immune mosters, when they come. The only drawback - you need a very strong mercenary to tank all of them.

Fireball will reach a damage near to that too.

[Myradin]

What about Firewall with Frozen orb? Would that be a good combination?

[Black_Rose]

Of course it would, but there could be too many unused skill points. Maxing the synergy of frozen orb and mastery to lvl20 in hard skill points is hardly necessary for pvm, good for a pvp orber maybe. And if you don't take that path, you'll have only about 70 points used. Nice for energy shield build only.

[darzog]

I have a pure cold Bliz sorc and a Meteorb, both can MF but the Bliz is by far the better sorc. You can do Pindle, Meph, Andy in a row easily (my merc handles any CI Pindles that load). She also does Baal much quicker than the Meteorb (even though the Merc has to kill all the skellies in the 2nd group).

That being said, Meteorb is my favorite dual-tree.

One other point....... use either Occy for +skills or Wizspike for +FCR/resists on main and a Gull dagger on switch. Gull has 100MF without any Ist/jewels. If you can afford an Ist'ed item, go with a dual ist'ed Ali Baba (much cheaper than a 6-Ist sword and not too far off on max MF).

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Darzog