View Full Version : Help Me Please!! (MF Help)
3RD_Degree
29-01-2005, 23:27
Hi,
I really need help with my mfer now. She uses the following gear:
PTopazed Shako- 74 MF
Double Isted Ali Baba & Isted Occy
Tal Ammy- 65 MF
PTopazed Tal Armor- 112 MF+ 65 MF
Rhyme Shield- 25 MF
40% MF Chancies
Tal Belt- 15% MF+ 65 MF
Cow King Boots- 25 MF
x22 7 MF scs w/ Res
I use wiz spike+ double pdiamoned mosers to tele to meph. Now the problem is it seems like i find better stuff with isted occy than my double isted ali baba. I have 7++ mf with both weps but it just seems i find better stuff with occy. Now one of my friends has 246 MF with his hammerdin and he found a spider. My other friend has 300 mf with his zon hybrid and found a coa & spider. I have like 759 MF and find Trang armors. I mean WTF!! I have no trouble with my sorc to tele to meph. I can kill him in under 10 secs. Now do i need to drop my mf to like 300?? What is the point of a MF sorc then.
I have done over like 500 MF runs since a couple of days and found NOTHING. I heard meph can drop like a fathom so wut is the trouble just dropping me a simple Spider or something?? Can someone plz help me.
Thanks
FrozenSolid
30-01-2005, 00:06
Actually you have around 600 mf. The tals partial set bonus 65% mf only applies once and not for all 3 itesm that youre wearing. So its only 65 and not 65 x 3.
Regarding finds, its a matter of luck really. Id I got this correctly, the game desides what item the boss is going to drop (which has nothing to do with mf) and then it checks whether the item will be uniqe, set, rare, magic and finally white.
I have a mfsorc too with 650 mf and Ive just given up on mfing. I find it more fun to just play the game and get my stuff from there rather than killing bosses over and over again for stuff. For example Ive never found a single Arach with her but Ive found 2 of them with by summoner (he has about 250 mf).
sheepe2004
30-01-2005, 00:30
iirc once you get over ~500% mf it no longer affects unique drops.
Its all about luck really, you just have too keep trying until you find something good.
I gave up running meph a long time ago since most of the "good" stuff he drops is only worth a pul rune or two anyway :(
Myrakh-2
30-01-2005, 01:33
iirc once you get over ~500% mf it no longer affects unique drops.
There is no cap. However, the diminishing returns formula prevents the *effective* MF from ever going higher than 250% for uniques and 500% for sets.
300% mf -> 136% better chance for unique
300% mf -> 187% better chance for set
400% mf -> 153% better chance for unique
400% mf -> 222% better chance for set
500% mf -> 166% better chance for unique
500% mf -> 250% better chance for set
600% mf -> 176% better chance for unique
600% mf -> 272% better chance for set
10000% mf -> 243% better chance for unique
10000% mf -> 476% better chance for set
go for +skill and resists rather than mf. After about 500mf the chance of dropping unqiue isnt signaficantly change. I have a sorc with around 450mf and she is doing fine. Killing faster speed up ur mf run and u can certain do more runs. As most ppl said, "is better doing 100mf in 1min other than 500mf in 5mins."
Stormcryer
30-01-2005, 05:07
Agreed with PoPo.
I run with a little over 475 MF, but can run fast and kill effectively with little fear of dying and I fnd decent stuff.
I have found that intead of doing a ton of MF runs now, I rush my mules for forge quests, transmute the mid and high end runes, and use these for trading to get the godly EQ I'm looking for.
The chances of decent rune drops from forge quests (up to gul) are much better than any high level MF drop....IMO.
I rushed through twelve mules in the last week and was rewarded with 4 guls, 1 ist, 2, ums, 2 mal, and 3 puls from teh hell forge, an additional 6 puls and 3 ums from the NM, and a few fals.
These can be used for trading or transmuting into higher runes for more purchasing power. The great thing about doing this is that you are actuallt MFing teh act bosses in NM and Hell, so there's teh potential of decent drops as an added bonus.
Works for me.
Storm
3RD_Degree
30-01-2005, 06:57
guys,
u really dont get it. I can kill meph under 10 seconds without even using a potion. I use wiz spike + double pdiamoned mosers and static him than switch to isted occy OR double isted ali baba and kill him. The chances of me dying are 1 of 100 runs and that is prob cuz i get stuck in a group with a mauler who stuns me. i dont need to sacrfice anything..
guys,
u really dont get it. I can kill meph under 10 seconds without even using a potion. I use wiz spike + double pdiamoned mosers and static him than switch to isted occy OR double isted ali baba and kill him. The chances of me dying are 1 of 100 runs and that is prob cuz i get stuck in a group with a mauler who stuns me. i dont need to sacrfice anything..
You getting/not getting Arachnids has little to do with your MF% really. Mephisto actually has to roll the base item before your MF is even taken into account. I reccomend you read this (http://www.diabloii.net/items/modifiers/magic-find.shtml).
hmmmm...
seeing as how running bosses doesnt get ppl much, wouldnt it just be better to get a hybrid sorc class, such as meteorb with a good mer, and walk hell?
with all the monsters your killing you ought to get a good item
right?
3RD_Degree
30-01-2005, 16:45
OMG!!!
thank u guys for all ur help!!!!! I was just messing around and i took off all my x22 7 mf scs and just used my wiz spike + double p diamoned mosers so that took my mf down to like 461. I did meph like that without switching and i found SPIDER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I am sooo happy. Im gonna try this and c how many i get.
Thank u guys for ur helpp!!!! I LOVE U
btw: sess that chart is the thing that helped me. Thank u so much.
OMG!!!
thank u guys for all ur help!!!!! I was just messing around and i took off all my x22 7 mf scs and just used my wiz spike + double p diamoned mosers so that took my mf down to like 461. I did meph like that without switching and i found SPIDER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I am sooo happy. Im gonna try this and c how many i get.
Thank u guys for ur helpp!!!! I LOVE U
btw: sess that chart is the thing that helped me. Thank u so much.
Hehe... it is all luck man. I doubt that in removing gear your mfing got better... but your luck simply improved... I hope it stays up! Happy Hunting!
3RD_Degree
30-01-2005, 20:28
no no no it was removing my mf gear that did it. Because in the chart that the guy showed me it said like 700% to get rares and my mf. So i went down to 400% which goes to like 400% to get rares and ****. While having 400% MF i found:
spider
x2 shakos
x2 gazes
and probably more to come. Thanks again guys
True... more rares. Though I am just saying no matter how high your mf goes... the amount of uniques still goes up. It just means you get less and less normal items.
FrozenSolid
30-01-2005, 22:03
Bottom line is, the drops are simply unpredictable. No matter how much/little mf you got theres no way of be sure which will grant u lets say a spider more often than the other. Weeks can go by without even a single decent item but suddenly you can find lots of them in a matter of hours ;)
I found a IK armor in pits with only 42MF from war travellers.
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