View Full Version : PvP tesladin?
sk8brdnick
22-01-2005, 04:30
How viable would a pvp tesladin be as a caster killer? I was thinking of something like this...
-griffon eye (IAS or facet)
-highlords or maras
-COH or enigma
-IK boots and gloves
-arachnidmesh/tgods depending on situation
-raven frost and BK or SOJ
-crescent moon/herald (IAS) with widowmaker on switch
-10x off aura charms
CTA, lidless and demon limb in stash
Skills would be something like this...
Max Holyshock, resist lightning, resist fire and salvation
1 pt charge, holyshield, vigor, meditation etc
remaining points in zeal using demon limb to boost defense
One would be looking at 1-13k dmg and 4-2140 area dmg for zeal with -55 lightning resist using maras and two IAS jewels. Bow dmg would be 1-12k with 4-1994 area dmg and -20 resist. With highlords and a facet in griffon one would get 1-13k dmg and 4-2156 are dmg with -60 lightning resist. Bow dmg would be 1-12k with 4-2005k area dmg and -25 resist.
Looks like highlords and facet is the way to go. That setup would give a 4 frame zeal and 10 frame guided arrow. Tactics would involve lots of charging and use of zeal or guided arrow depending on oponent.
Viable? Comments?
Death_Frog
22-01-2005, 18:44
I have a much, much better build. I have gotten alot of compliments and jaws drop. I have a Tesladin which uses 2x dream for its holy shock fully synergized and with conviction as main aura... here is my equip
Helm-Dream(+15 holy shock)
Shield-Dream(+15 holy shock), yes they stack, no need to put a point in holy shock
Armor-Enigma(for str purposes, im sure coh would work great too)
Weap-Doom Zerker(Holy freeze is really great with this build, gets synergized by salv)
Belt-nos coil or Tgods
Boots-Treks
Gloves-lava gouts(for the 20 ias and Enchant to boost AR)
He is lvl 74 and does about 8.5 dmg zeal right now, and shock aura does around 1.5k im guessing, im aiming at 12k zeal once i get offensive charms... with convict, it just owns pvp. I even do decent dmg to resist stackers ;)
Most chars just take a few aura hits b4 they die, if they actually get to me, one or two hits from zeal usually kills them.
Only downfall is the expensive equipment... if u can afford 2x dreams tho, do it :)
sk8brdnick
22-01-2005, 19:41
Isn't your attack speed poopy with zerker and no fanat? I'm nonladder also...
Death_Frog
22-01-2005, 23:00
Isn't your attack speed poopy with zerker and no fanat? I'm nonladder also...
No my attack speed seems fast enough... especially when everyone else is slower than u ;)
I think its at 5 fpa.
Isn't AR a bit of a problem without Fanaticism?
Telsadins aren't the best vs melee in duels (Ias issues, using off gcs instead of pcoms to boost hs. The 60 points it costs to max aura leaves other areas lacking, Most choose to max skills for ar and lose defence), though they are quite effective with a widow maker. It will take a bit to max the attack speed with it, but guided arrow is a very effective delivery system for all that elemental damage.
If you feel like being creative and tossing some runes at it you could make a telsadin charger, give him an infinity, the conviction/-light res would work nicely, besides that infinity has some decent ed on it too. Since attk speed doesn't matter for charge toss it in a war pike. Get good phys and lit dmg :) You could also keep the widdow on switch, for against baba's and stuff you don't want to charge. Desynch with charge and then spam ga's. :thumbsup:
sk8brdnick: IMO, if u want to use telsadin in melee, u use go something like this:
skill:
20 holy shock
20 light resist
20 zeal
20 holy shield
rest goes to sacfrice
gears: (waht i use)
rare fool phase blade of quickness (2s, 1-387 light dmg, 40ias, +ar and + dmg base on char lvl, eth, 2x ar/15ias jewel)
CoA (2s, socket with 1-100 light dmg, -req jewels, or u can socket with ar/15ias jewels if u need to hit the bp)
stormshield (def & dr)
enimga or arakin valor (for def and life)
dracul grasp
rare boot
tgod or verdungo (i use tgod for the str and light dmg, since ive CoA for the dr part)
angelic ammy + 2x angelic rings (so u will be able to hit high def char)
cta + hoz (weapon switch)
charms:
9x offense gcs /w life & fhr
9x shocking scs (1-77 light dmg)
1x steel gc of sustance
1x anni
this build stand against melee quite well, doing around 8000 holy shock dmg to ur attack + adding light dmg for ur gears and charms. (is 13k on my dmg screen, cuz added zeal physical dmg.) With my phase i can hit max bp for zeal. if they stack light resist, i simply switch to beast + might aura so i can take them.
if u want to be a pvp caster killer telsadin. i did recommend charge instad of zeal. and u can go like:
20 charge
20 shock
20 light resist
20 vigor
rest goes to might
it will do good light dmg + considerably physical dmg. (use inifite)
Death_Frog
23-01-2005, 03:55
']Isn't AR a bit of a problem without Fanaticism?
Not as much as u would think... Conviction virtually eliminates defense, leaving ony blocking and character lvl standing in my way.
I have about 5k AR and I can hit a good max block barb around once per zeal... which may not seem like alot, but when u factor in dmg, it only takes like 3-4 hits...
Not as much as u would think... Conviction virtually eliminates defense, leaving ony blocking and character lvl standing in my way.
I have about 5k AR and I can hit a good max block barb around once per zeal... which may not seem like alot, but when u factor in dmg, it only takes like 3-4 hits...
It doesn't elimnate it by a long shot, if anything it puts a small dent in there. Because in pvp, convictions -def% effect is halved. And the way it works is like a - holy shield. Say your opponent has 300 edef off his holy shield, if you had -100% def from conviction, it would make it like he only got 250 enhanced defence from holy shield. While it is a help, its not that great of one.
Death_Frog: yup. beside, if u double dream then u wont have a shield for blocking.
I don't have the wealth on ladder to try such a built but it sure opens up a lot of possibilites with the new rune word. Even something like the 2 synregies for holy shock and max zeal and fanaticism could work eventually. I will admit that putting conviction as main offensive aura is quite tempting.
As for weapon, I would tend to agree with Mr PoPo, you need something speedy especially when you don't use fanaticism to speed things up. Getting a weapon such as he is certainly not easy but thats a nice piece he got. I think that the new rune word Oath could fill the bill well, 50 ias on a phase blade and you only need 15 more to get to 4 fps. The possible ed is not half bad as well, ranging from 210 up to 340. If you don't like phase blade you can chose another weapon since 50 ias is quite a bit.
I am curious Mr Popo, what kind of AR you're getting with your setup ?
my AR? i have around 17K ar with double angelic rings and ammy. when i switch to beast, my ar has around 15k. (both are enough to hit high def build) i did use one steel gc and some AR/15ias jewel to boost my AR. and btw, my phase blade arent that godly. All u have to do is try to look for fool and quickenss on crystal sword then it would be good as mine.
Death_Frog
23-01-2005, 15:46
Death_Frog: yup. beside, if u double dream then u wont have a shield for blocking.
No shield for blocking? Oh ye of little faith, my shield works GREAT... its a pally shield, so it already has higher block than others... and i have 140+ dex and im maxing holy shield... that will be enough. Seems to block like a regular max block shield, even against good barbs and pallies with 15k ar
As for the weapon... if i drop holy freeze and get faster weap, other chars will be faster as well :( , so it really wouldnt benefit me as much. Besides holy freeze also slows their running speed, allowing me to do more aura dmg b4 they get to me.
No shield for blocking? Oh ye of little faith, my shield works GREAT... its a pally shield, so it already has higher block than others... and i have 140+ dex and im maxing holy shield... that will be enough. Seems to block like a regular max block shield, even against good barbs and pallies with 15k ar
As for the weapon... if i drop holy freeze and get faster weap, other chars will be faster as well :( , so it really wouldnt benefit me as much. Besides holy freeze also slows their running speed, allowing me to do more aura dmg b4 they get to me.
ummmm, that might be too much dex for the pally. the highest pally blocking shield u can get is 60% and with holy shield u still need to pump dex above 140+
my pally only has 125 dex with stormshield (base dex, anni + 19dex rare boot, +1x 20dex raven + 10dex from angelic + 22 from charms and 9 from jewels)
the blocking formula: (blocking% *(dex-15)/(char lvl 8*2))
Weltkriegpally
23-01-2005, 20:47
No shield for blocking? Oh ye of little faith, my shield works GREAT... its a pally shield, so it already has higher block than others... and i have 140+ dex and im maxing holy shield... that will be enough. Seems to block like a regular max block shield, even against good barbs and pallies with 15k ar
As for the weapon... if i drop holy freeze and get faster weap, other chars will be faster as well :( , so it really wouldnt benefit me as much. Besides holy freeze also slows their running speed, allowing me to do more aura dmg b4 they get to me.
confucius say:: Pally who have 140 or more dex had best be level 99 or a ranger.
--welt
vBulletin® v3.8.4, Copyright ©2000-2009, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.