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bobdobbs
21-01-2005, 01:24
I did not write this but a post in generaal forum made me search my old emailboxes and i found this.... what do you think? Up the ribby in the cube add better Crushing Blow stuff, some new runewords could be good again. Anyone wanna work the kinks out and fix this guide?

The MONKADIN
Intro - aka WHY WOULD I DO THAT...

Because, after playing almost every variant out there I was
still left wanting. So if you are a Vegetarian (no cow lvl),
non-ith or dupe, using kinda player - looking for a real fun variant,
I present the MONKADIN. This is not for the fain of heart, it will take time, in fact your Monk does not really blossom till mid to late game.

Now why a Pally? Well, for asthetic reasons one simply has to pick a Pally. I know a Baba seems like a good choice with Mastery skill, BO, Nat Resist, Faster Run, WW (for mass attack) and Zerk (for the phys imune), but they just look too buff.

Whereas the Pally has the thin Bruce Lee kinda build, and has a religious tone to his skill tree, where all the skills have the right sounding kinda names: Zeal, Fanatacism, Conviction and so on.

Now to be true to the concept, one would have to only use ones hands - but as that is not really an option, I will accept the use of a Bo-Stick... um I mean Staff. Which brings me to...

WHAT TO WEAR????
In keeping with the Monk theme - nothing tougher than leather, or serpentskin. Monks just don't do Heavy Metal.

Weapon: a staff. Anything at first, one with sockets can help. Once you get to lvl 31 you can AND WILL use

Ribcracker
Quarterstaff
(57-66) - (146-173) Damage
130 Durability
25 Required Str
Item Level: 39
Clvl Req: 31
+200-300% Enhanced Damage
Adds 30-65 damage
50% Increased Attack Speed
50% Chance of Crushing Blow
+15 to Dexterity
+100 Defense
+100% Enhanced Defense (?)
50% Faster Hit Recovery
+100 Increased Durability

The IAS, Crushing and faster Hit Recovery are all VERY important.

Later (lvl 78 to be exact - unless you add a HEL rune lvl63) you may want to try

Naj's Puzzler
Elder Staff
(Elite Gnarled Staff)
200-232 Damage
35 Durability
44 Str required
37 Dex required
2 Range
10 Weapon Speed
Damage Bonus: 100 Str
Clvl Req: 78
Item Level: 43
+35 Energy*
+150% Enhanced Damage*
150% Damage to Undead
+30% Faster Cast Rate
+6-45 Lightning Damage*
+70 Mana*
+1 to All Skills*

Personally at lvl78 I'm loving my Naj - over 2.5K dam no problem (Zeal with Fanat. over 3.5K Veng/Fanat - Might merc turned off), but I think maybe I should have Hel'd it and gotten more use out of it.

BELT - String of ears - leach, and dam reduc, is too good to pass up.

GLOVES - Early: Hands of Brock, or Bloodfist, Later Venom Grip - a bit of Crushing, but I like Disciple Set gloves, IAS and 350% dam to Demons (which combined with the +dam to undead on all staffs covers lots of the bad guys you'll be beating to a pulp).

BOOTS - Oh I don't know. Some rare with Faster walk and resists - Waterwalk or Infernostride. - You decide, or go with the Disciple set boots - but you probably need resists!

ARMOR - Skin of the Viper goes pretty far, or nice rare, or socket some dusk shroud with ED jools.

HAT - Shako if you got one, Peasant Crown is nice, or a nice Pally Circlet with resists. I sorta like the way Rockstopper looks, but... ok so I break my own rules, and I don't have a Shako.

RINGS & AMMY - whatever you are lacking in resists and leech.

And for the ultimate accessory, your Merc... easy - you need a Might Merc.

OK, SO WAHT DO I DO WITH ALL THIS STUFF??? aka Skills.
I keep Zeal on hotkey #1 & Veng on #2 for left click. all the rest are keyed for the right click.

For sure 1st point into Might, then

Think Zealot. Zeal and Fanat (MUST MAX Fanat, Zeal only enough points to keep your To Hit % above 85. Take into consideration Fanat, and Dex and +skills - you might not need more than 4).

In Hell with the phys imune, you will also need to first Convince them with Conviction, then Fanat & Max Veng them to death.

At least a point in Vigor - if nothing else helps run around town and to get past the badguys to get your body.

And At least one in Salvation

At least one in Holy Freeze.

you will have points to spare, so maybe a few extra in might for the early lvl's - your call, I'm not going to hold your hand all the way... which brings me to

STATS

No Energy
Lots and lots of Strength
Enough Dex to Hit at 85%
Vitality the rest

New Thoughts - with 1.10 commin' and the new cubeable ribcracker will be insane, and with Zeal getting a dam bonus I think this build may be too easy... maybe no helm, and gloves?

Sir SDG
21-01-2005, 20:24
forttude armor... u need all the ed u can get..

jordy666
21-01-2005, 20:31
i think this is a pre 1.10 guide.
but i think the monk-a-din probaly would kick some arse in pvm
probaly something like:
ebotd archon/eth zod upped ribcracker
fortitude
draculs
highlords
raven
carrion
gore's
guelaume's <--- you know what i mean :D

-jordy :king:

sangfagel
22-01-2005, 15:37
As I see you leave question of merc open. What would you say about A1 girl with Faith runeword? A free Fanaticism lvl 12-15 canīt be that bad... A mini army of returned would match a cleric more but ... monk - cleric... who cares :D.
The bad news are that this bow is "cheatersī only" (ladder, Ohm + Jah)... Thank you Blizz!

Upgrading Ribcracker would make a WAY better weapon than Naj's Puzzler (IAS and this crazy 50% CB)

You have still some problems with ph immunes but with free Fanaticism nothing prevents you from maxing an elemental aura or Convinction and using Gimmershred on weapon switch (it wouldnīt be much monk but it would be powerfull and extremaly effective against Oblivion Knights)

mischa
24-01-2005, 19:57
hey i'm gonna make one.. well actually i already started mine lol.. anyway i already have a ribcracker just a norm one not even the best mods it can get on it.. but i use it with my chargadin and it kicks *** in pvp! so i thought i'd make a pvm/pvp monk char... so he's lvl 20 now but anyway the skill points i'm gonna do by around lvl 60- 20 in fanat, 20 in charge, 10 in vengence, 10 in zeal, and 10 in vigor.. so that's including all the extra skill points ya get from quests.. so after that i'll either test out a few other skills and just put a few in each or i will continue maxing those skills.. if i lvled to 99, which i'm not gonna i'll only make it to lvl80 cuz i'm lazy like that, i can have 5 skills maxed or.. atleast almost maxxed cuz of req skills.. so yeah there's that.. when my char is at lvl 80 i'll put up an edit and tell ya how i've done..

Vakarrona
26-01-2005, 02:44
Would the lack of a shield be a problem?

Fallen Creation
26-01-2005, 02:56
Use an Insight Staff.

Highlights:
Level 12-17 Meditation Aura When Equipped (varies)
+200-260% Enhanced Damage (varies)
180-250% Bonus to Attack Rating (varies)
+1-6 To Critical Strike (varies)
+5 To All Attributes

and best of all:
Ral + Tir + Tal + Sol

It's pretty much free.

Baranor
26-01-2005, 14:00
please note that adding a HEL rune will not decrease the level requirements of an item, only the stat requirements. No amount of yelling, name calling or telling that I'm a liar will alter this.


Ya, insight, brilliant plan for a staf-a-din.

mischa
26-01-2005, 21:41
is insight a ladder rune word? cuz i'm not on ladder.. man...

mischa
26-01-2005, 21:57
is a staff considered a melee weapon? and is it also included when on the D2 site says all weapons? for like runewords

Wurmer
27-01-2005, 06:00
If I remember correclty, insight is available in polearm and staff so there is no problem there. Yes insight is a ladder rune word only.

That's one built I have been putting on the back burner for quite some time. I don't know if the lack of shield would render this built viable in hell. Maybe hughe amount of life leech and some serious FHR would do the trick but I don't know.

guelaume's <--- you know what i mean :D = Guillaume's Face but yes we know what you mean

Baranor
27-01-2005, 11:57
well, here was my plan for a Monk-a-din.

Insight staff

the rest is undeceided, but manald heal will be one of the items.

max prayer
max fana
max vengance
and if i feel like it afterwards, max holy bolt too for added monkeyness ^_^.

nyways, prayer synergizes with meditation, so if I use the insight staff, I get prayer as well. with a little bit of mana vengance wont be a problem because of the meditation and mana steal.

ya, i like the idea of life regeneration.... a friend of mine has a sorc who's merc is a prayer merc and gives her about 50 life per second. while not enough to save your life, it is surely amusing ^_^.