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NoobSlayer
06-01-2005, 13:45
I'm presently making a Smiter and i dont know wich armor to choose from....
-Etheral Arkaines Valor +2 all skills
-Etheral Gladiator's bane
-Etheral Templars Might
Also if u can suggest me for my weapon and helm...would be nice. ;)
AmericanIdiot
06-01-2005, 15:41
Hmmm. Armour i Would go for the eth Arkaine with the +2 skills and some dmg red with vita. Weapon . Silence Pb Helmet Coa or Harle
Armor: arky, some life and +2 all skills, nice armor.
weapon: grief PB, silence PB, the radeemer or astron.
helm: harlequin or CoA (depending on stats)
-W.t.g
HandofElysium
06-01-2005, 16:03
I still like a an enigma mageplate out of all the ones you mentioned. Though if those are the ones your going to use I suggest Arkaine Valor.
I would also suggest a Grief Beserker Axe instead of a phase blade because of better range that effects smite as well as your charge attack.
I just started leveling my V/T on ladder and the Grief Beserker axe is the way to go.
NoobSlayer
06-01-2005, 18:52
Nice...ty guys althrought id like to know why a phase blade and not a high lvl scepter socketed with +3 smite and/or holy shiled or fanat.
Nice...ty guys althrought id like to know why a phase blade and not a high lvl scepter socketed with +3 smite and/or holy shiled or fanat.
Well scepters can't spawn with +smite anymore, and scepters with +holy shield and/or +fanat don't compare to the bugged damage from grief. There should be a lot of threads around here about that single topic if you want more info.
But if you don't want to exploit bugs then yes you'd be very lucky if you found a +fana and/or +holy shield scepter, maybe with +3 combat or +2 all, and socketed it with ber/ums. That'd be a great legit choice.
Grief only works in Swords and Axes.
Crazy Runner Guy
06-01-2005, 19:43
Kingslayer Phase Blade and use the Arkaine's of your options. I use a Chains of Honor on mine, along with a Harle /w Ort socket.
crg
NoobSlayer
06-01-2005, 20:18
Ok but Im asking myself if the Defence of Eth Zoded Hoz is Worth The lost of a 40/15 on a regular hoz...so i wonder wich to choose from.. :rolleyes:
Ok but Im asking myself if the Defence of Eth Zoded Hoz is Worth The lost of a 40/15 on a regular hoz...so i wonder wich to choose from.. :rolleyes:
why a 40/15? Isn't for a smiter...do you have max dr already? Even then I dont think a 40/15 is that helpful for a smiter. Get a jewel with resists/ias or something. The ed isn't as great as it sounds for smite, unless the ed works wonders with grief; I wouldn't know.
but get max dr before you try to up you dmg.
NoobSlayer
06-01-2005, 20:42
So i Should get Etheral Zoded Hoz or Regular Hoz with like jewel wich does 15res and 15ias?...Is that what your telling me
So i should get Eth Zod Hoz Or Regular Hoz Socketed with 15resist/15ias jewel instead of 40/15'd Hoz?
Yes a regular HOZ with 15res/15ias if you need the ias. but make sure you have full dr first. Full dr is more important than the extra def from eth hoz. Also i'm not sure but I think eth stuff is bugged once its upgraded. Becareful.
why isnt eth steel carapace up there?
LanceLink
07-01-2005, 08:05
...the bugged damage from grief.
But if you don't want to exploit bugs...
rare,
I strongly disagree that as far as smite is concerned the Damage+X mod is bugged.
Ask yourself:
What would be the damage of a Grief RW weapon if the Damage+X mod was not "bugged" as you call it?
Answer: It would be utter crap if it was added to Total Damage rather than Weapon Damage as it is now.
And then tell me why does that RW has a HR in it? For the sake of +340-400 added to Total Damage? I don't think so.
why a 40/15? Isn't for a smiter...do you have max dr already? Even then I dont think a 40/15 is that helpful for a smiter. Get a jewel with resists/ias or something. The ed isn't as great as it sounds for smite, unless the ed works wonders with grief; I wouldn't know.
but get max dr before you try to up you dmg.
Probably it's quite clear now that ED% works with the Damage+X mod. Nevertheless, I agree with you that 40/15 is not very purposeful since max DR% is of a much higher priority than ED%, having in mind that the Smite damage with a Grief weapon is already soaring high in the skies. Personally I'd prefer a Ber'd HoZ. Zod'ed HoZ sounds like such a waste. If someone could give me a good reason for its existence I'd be glad to hear it. "Good Reason" does not equal "High Defence" btw ;)
NoobSlayer,
If you can afford a LO rune I believe there is nothing outthere that compares to a Grief weapon for smiters. The Damage +340-400 mod on it is a shredder since it's added directly to the Weapon (Shield) Damage before all bonuses from Str, Skills, Off-weapon (off-shield) ED%.
Best Regards and Happy Smiting
Fortitude in superior archon plate... +300% Enhanced Damage!!! nice rez(25-30)... 1 life/lvl!! +5% max light rez(good vs foher or trappers), good def. => THE SMITER ARMOR!!
rare,
I strongly disagree that as far as smite is concerned the Damage+X mod is bugged.
Ask yourself:
What would be the damage of a Grief RW weapon if the Damage+X mod was not "bugged" as you call it?
Answer: It would be utter crap if it was added to Total Damage rather than Weapon Damage as it is now.
And then tell me why does that RW has a HR in it? For the sake of +340-400 added to Total Damage? I don't think so.
I have never seen the "Damage +" mod advertised as a "direct addition to smite damage," although I'd be very happy if you could point me in the direction of a trustworthy site that has information directly from Blizzard that says that "Damage +" is suppose to immensely increase the damage of smite.
If by HR you mean High Rune, my answer is that it's Blizzard for goodness sake. Isn't there that Wind runeword that eats up a high rune for no reason? I don't get the point you made with that, elaborate =(
I really woulnd't care if the damage was "utter crap" There are plenty of smite weapons that could be used in place of it. But again, i didnt get the point of imagining if the damage was utter crap. If it was, then no one would waste a rune..or w/e it is. Was that it?
+Damage gets added BEFORE Enhanced Damage % from Skills or equipment.
BEFORE!!!
If we're talking about maximum damage Smite, then we're talking 10k more damage. Possibly more.
Proof? Forget Arreat Summit, you won't find it there. Go to duel games and see how Grief-users get one- or two-hit kills and then you'll see for yourself.
id be delighted to show you what grief does .. you can even use cta before hand and Im willing to bet FEW chars can handle 2 hits without dieing Id say easily 90% die with one hit.
IMO best thing ever for evening the field for pallies. I think BOTD is SECOND best now for any melee pally.
Code2Zero
08-01-2005, 06:15
Armor: Eth Valor... maybeee Coh if you want inexpensive way out
Weapon: Doom.. hands down.. holy freeze your opponent
I'd go with Eth Exile for shield.. but I've never made a hammerdin I wouldn't know.. Good luck! :rolleyes:
']+Damage gets added BEFORE Enhanced Damage % from Skills or equipment.
BEFORE!!!
If we're talking about maximum damage Smite, then we're talking 10k more damage. Possibly more.
Proof? Forget Arreat Summit, you won't find it there. Go to duel games and see how Grief-users get one- or two-hit kills and then you'll see for yourself.
Well if you read the entire thing, you'd know that's not what we're discussing.
We both know it adds massively to smite dmg. The point we can't figure out is whether if it's a bug, like I say, or if it's a feature put in on purpose by Blizzard that adds massiiiive smite damage, like Lance says.
Some people refer to it as a bug but I like to think of it more as another failure of the Character screen to properly display statistics.
']Some people refer to it as a bug but I like to think of it more as another failure of the Character screen to properly display statistics.
o_o......
yes, we know that..
now, again, we're trying to figure out a trustworthy place where it says it's/it's not a bug or it's/it's not a feature, or another character screen error.
o_o......
yes, we know that..
now, again, we're trying to figure out a trustworthy place where it says it's/it's not a bug or it's/it's not a feature, or another character screen error.
well since your in doubt ask blizz direct if they meant grief to be as strong as it is and why they dont have the proper damage display...
grief isnt an ith weapon from days of old... its a real runeword. I dont think they did that by accident....
grief isnt an ith weapon from days of old... its a real runeword. I dont think they did that by accident....
It's the mod that's bugged, not the runeword itself.
ArcaneLegend
08-01-2005, 21:46
Armor: Eth Valor... maybeee Coh if you want inexpensive way out
Weapon: Doom.. hands down.. holy freeze your opponent
I'd go with Eth Exile for shield.. but I've never made a hammerdin I wouldn't know.. Good luck! :rolleyes:
i'd go with enigma. at lvl 85, that 63 str u save will get u 189 more life, and on top of that, the jah rune gives 5% to max life.
doom is BM. also the holy freeze is nothing compared to the smite dmg u get with grief.
exile sux for smiters. against a grief user, life tap won't save u if u die in 2 hits. besides the +2 offensive auras, i don't see anything else that really helps smiters.
what hammerdin!? did u read the thread clearly or are u going totally off-track on purpose? that had better be a typo.
It's the mod that's bugged, not the runeword itself.
wanna email blizz and ask em about that then? tho i doubt they'd reply, it's worth a try.
wanna email blizz and ask em about that then? tho i doubt they'd reply, it's worth a try.
i was thinking that..but I highly doubt they'll answer. someone else wanna try :P ?
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