New Runewords & Amazons

[Rane-]

Well I figured we should start up a thread where we specifically discuss the applications of the new runewords to amazons. I'll get us started.

Fortitude. Goddam. You serious? Apparently they are. Best. Armour. Ever.

Brand looks nice. I can't believe we have Guided Bone Spears now :lol:. Could also have some nice capabilities for an Exploding Arrow Zon.

Edge. Cute, definatly Cute. It's not gonna replace my Windforce, but it does allow us to have Rogue Mercs with Thorns... although I'd just use a thorns Act2 Merc to tank, or a Might one and give them Bramble armour.

Faith is indeed teh sexy. Looks like a pretty darn nice bow all round with damage that can compete with windforce. I think the best use however is still on a Rogue Merc, allowing you to have a Fanatic wf :thumbsup:.

Harmony. My new switch weapon. I like vigour :xmad:. Used purely to run around.

Phoenix... well could we FINALLY make a decent Immo Zon? Perhaps.

Few questions. Does anyone actually know what that 10% chance to Reanimate as Returned do? Does it revive things you kill? If so I'm making a Drow Ranger. I bags it :xcool:. Also does anyone know the stats, preferably with a pic link, for Ice and Wrath? I have heard some good things about both... ESPECIALLY Wrath. Can't wait to see what they actually do.

So anyway, discuss.

[ToadKiller]

Does anyone actually know what that 10% chance to Reanimate as Returned do?

Tomb Reaver has this same mod. It makes skeletons. Really SLOW and STUPID skeletons. Seriously. Valks look like Einstein next to these little creeps. And you lose them if you portal or use a WP.

My Merc uses Tomb Reaver, but he doesn't really kill enough creatures quick enough to get anything out of the reanimation. One or two stupid/slow skeletons isn't much. It's possible that combined with Strafe/MS you that you could get a decent horde of the Fanatical little buggers going.

[Rane-]

Done some work with numbers, here's some info;

Bone Spears are teh cool. Marrowwalks make them do ~500 peircing magic damage in a line, that's on every hit that you fire off with Strafe/Multi. I have GOT to see this in action. Combine with ITD to get 'win'.

I calculated the damage on a Faith-using zon, and sad to say, wf still definatly wins. By a fair amount too. I'm still going to have one of these bows for the ITD and insane AR bonus, not to mention coolness factor. Just don't want to mislead people and stating here that wf STILL has a larger listed damage. I doubt you can get enough AR on wf to do more dmg over time compared to the ITD/AR on Faith though...

Infinity brings Conviction to the hands of Magezons everywhere. Faith/Brand on a Immo Zon along with a Infinity-weilding Might Merc could make Immo zons do some damage... still unfortunatly has that whole cast delay **** though.

I am now dying more than EVER to see Ice and Wrath...

[XLNC]

Done some work with numbers, here's some info;

Bone Spears are teh cool. Marrowwalks make them do ~500 peircing magic damage in a line, that's on every hit that you fire off with Strafe/Multi. I have GOT to see this in action. Combine with ITD to get 'win'.

I calculated the damage on a Faith-using zon, and sad to say, wf still definatly wins. By a fair amount too. I'm still going to have one of these bows for the ITD and insane AR bonus, not to mention coolness factor. Just don't want to mislead people and stating here that wf STILL has a larger listed damage. I doubt you can get enough AR on wf to do more dmg over time compared to the ITD/AR on Faith though...

Infinity brings Conviction to the hands of Magezons everywhere. Faith/Brand on a Immo Zon along with a Infinity-weilding Might Merc could make Immo zons do some damage... still unfortunatly has that whole cast delay **** though.

I am now dying more than EVER to see Ice and Wrath...


Just wondering did u put having the 300%ed from fortitude armor in ur calculations with faith b/c with faith all u need is 44-48% ias to reach 7 frames which is way better then wf

[Rane-]

The more off weapon ED% you add into the calculations the more wf wins by. The base damage on WF is just insane. The Fanatisicm provided by Faith does add some great damage, and the IAS does help, but it isn't THAT great as you can still get 40ias from a shaeled wf. Wf definatly wins in damage over time department based on numbers. The hidden bonus Faith has is that it will hit a LOT more in hell, perhaps cathing up or surpassing wf in actual damage dealt...

And like I said Faith is just teh sexy. Fanatic minions 4 life.

[gfattack]

[QUOTE=Rane-]Done some work with numbers, here's some info;

Bone Spears are teh cool. Marrowwalks make them do ~500 peircing magic damage in a line, that's on every hit that you fire off with Strafe/Multi. I have GOT to see this in action. Combine with ITD to get 'win'.

wait wait wait

i havent cn all the new runewords but are u telling me that u can summon skellitons with your ZON ?!?! as ive previously said

the new runewords killed diablo forever

[Rane-]

When you quote what I say quote the right part. You cannot summon skellies. You have a 10% chance to raise a skellie upon killing an enemy. This is also not knew apparently, just now available to bows.

[Bregor]

Fortitude. Goddam. You serious? Apparently they are. Best. Armour. Ever.

Makes me glad I saved that 4 socket 500 def Dusk Shroud.

[Sherlock]

I am now dying more than EVER to see Ice and Wrath...

Just found it on other forum, , here we go :

Ice
4 Socket Missile Weapons
Amn + Shael + Jah + Lo
?
100% CTC lvl 40 Blizzard on lvl up
25% CTC lvl 22 Frost Nova on Striking
Lvl 18 Holy Freeze Aura when equipped
20% IAS
172% enhanced damage (varies)
ITD
+25% to Cold Skill damage
-20% to enemy Cold Resist
7% Life leech
20% DS
% extra gold from monsters (per char lvl)


Wrath
4 Socket Missile Weapons
Pul + Lum + Ber + Mal
?
30% Chance to Cast Level 1 Decrepify on Striking
5% chance to Cast level 10 Life Tap on Striking
+320-390% Damage to Demons (varies)
+100 to attack Rating Against Demons
+250-310% Damage to Undead (varies)
Adds 85-120 Magic Damage
Adds 41-240 Lightning Damage
20% Chance of Crushing Blow
Prevent Monster Heal
+10 to Energy
Cannot Be Frozen


Pride
4 Socket Polearms
Cham + Sur + Io + Lo
?
25% Chance to Cast Level 17 Fire wall When Struck
Level 16 Concentration Aura When Equipped
250-310% Bonus To Attack Rating (varies)
+1%(per level) Damage to Demons (Based on Character Level)
Adds 50-280 Lightning Damage
20% Deadly Strike
Hit Blinds Target
Freezes Target +3
+10 vitality
Replenish Life +8
1%(per level) Extra Gold From Monsters (Based on Character Level)

Concentration Aura , here are dets from Battle.net

Effect: Reduces the chance that your attacks will be interrupted.

Concentration offers two things, a chance for an uninterrupted hit, and increases greatly the damage you will do. This can also be combined with other high damage combat skills such as Sacrifice and Charge for high levels of damage. If you want to do a lot of damage, this is a good aura for you. This can also be shared with other party members which is great especially for other Paladins, Barbarians, and Amazons.

At Lvl 16 it will do this :

Level 16
Uninterrupt Chance: 20%
Radius (yards) 30.6
Damage +% 285

[Har-Megiddo]

I think pride is not as effective as other RWs in PvM because it had no ed for the weapon and in PvP, you can Enigma Tele around, but you not only have to use enigma, but wear fast cast gear to buzz around to keep the merc from being picked off. It's really not as amazing as I thought.

[GhostStealer]

Just made Edge . It'll be a nice bow to help reduce price while gambling. :D

Other than that this runeword has no pratically use.

[Vajar]

New PvM setup:

In a grand matron:

Brand
4 Socket Missile Weapons
Jah + Lo + Mal + Gul
35% Chance to Cast Level 14 Amplify Damage When Struck!!! <-- this will blow WF out of the water right here
100% Chance to Cast Level 18 Bone Spear on Striking
+3 Bow and Crossbow Skills (Amazon Only)
Fires Explosive Arrows or Bolts
+280-350% Enhanced Damage(varies)
Ignore Target's Defense
20% Bonus to Attack Rating
250-340% Damage to Demons (varies)
20% Deadly Strike
Prevent Monster Heal
Knockback

On your might merc:

Pride
3 Socket Polearms
Cham + Sur + Io + Lo
25% Chance to Cast Level 17 Fire wall When Struck
Level 16 Concentration Aura When Equipped
250-310% Bonus To Attack Rating (varies)
+1%(per level) Damage to Demons (Based on Character Level)
Adds 50-280 Lightning Damage
20% Deadly Strike
Hit Blinds Target
Freezes Target +3
+10 vitality
Replenish Life +8
1%(per level) Extra Gold From Monsters (Based on Character Level)

Hitting 9/2 strafe with (or possibly other few setups):

Helm w/IAS jewel
Highlords
160/60 Armor
IAS Gloves
Nosferatu's

Helm would possibly be Kiras for resists, opening up rings to high dex/str with resists and charms for +max damage or skills.

Or, 7 frame multishot with a Faith Grand Matron and Fortitude Armor:
120/45 IAS Bone Visage
Highlords
IAS Gloves
Nosferatu's

[Rane-]

I'm doing the same deal :lol:. I haven't decided between Strafe and Multi, leaning towards Multi. Make sure you use Marrowwalks. I really want a screen of piercing Multi-BoneSpears at 7fpa :xmad:.

Can you say Moo?

[Vajar]

multi only procs for the middle 4(?) arrows, so it won't be that insane, it'd probably do better with strafe

[XZON]

I'm doing the same deal :lol:. I haven't decided between Strafe and Multi, leaning towards Multi. Make sure you use Marrowwalks. I really want a screen of piercing Multi-BoneSpears at 7fpa :xmad:.

Can you say Moo?

that's a faith grand matron with the level 15 fanaticism (thats how you hit 7 frames with the grand matron. brand has the ctc bone spear. your mixing the two.

[luis19]

Brand/Faith +fortitude on a zon?
PvP'er watch out.

PvP wise, faith>wf.
Why?
With fortitude faith does dmg not too far from wf, has +skills, resist (max resist bowazon=caster ownage), and can reach 7 frames.
WF cannot reach 8 frames with fortitude. So near wf dmg @ 7 frames with a nice boost in resist, +skills, and even +max LR.
WF is now officially gg'ed.

And lets see people try to catch a zon when they are kb'ed and bs'ed.

[Sherlock]

Found on other forum picture of Ice in Crusader :

http://img108.exs.cx/img108/3042/screenshot0160pf.jpg

Nice Cold Rogue Bow, but who wants Cold Rogue Merc when Act 2 is much stronger anyway...

[PukeStar]

Here is my plan

slap pride in might merc
use faith bow

you have 3 auras : fanaticism, concentration and might!

the damage will be so sick, you could clean easily hell chaos sanctuary with strafe!

[Har-Megiddo]

If I were to have the most fun with brand, I'd go with Brand Matriarchal Bow (or Great Bow, if you want to be able to put it on the other fun character this is good for, a commandomancer with fully synergized spear), wear marrows to synergize the spears, and add 60% IAS for a 2frame strafe.

Btw, if you do the commandomancer thing, you can get a 10 frame attack with a Brand Great Bow by using 99% IAS, or if you throw a Faith Bow (assuming lvl 12 fanat) on an A1 Merc you can get 10 frames with 29% IAS.

You could use 20 bone armour, 20 teeth, 20 bone wall, 20 skeleton mastery, 20 raise skeleton and wear Marrows to have a skeleton army that has fanat while you're shooting arrows + spears at the same time :)

[londra]

Here is my plan

slap pride in might merc
use faith bow

you have 3 auras : fanaticism, concentration and might!

the damage will be so sick, you could clean easily hell chaos sanctuary with strafe!

And you couldn't do it before? You don't need those to be effective in there. My strafer cleans the place up in no time(wf + might merc)

I'm sorry for ruining anyone's fun here but these new runewords are a disgrace really. No challenge at all anymore. And where is the fun in that...

[Myrakh-2]

WF is now officially gg'ed.

Does that mean I can finally make a bowazon because people clear out their windforces for a few pgems?

[luis19]

wf isn't expensive to begin with, its price probably won't change since faith/brand will cost alot after ladder ends, but will probably be cheap on ladder.

[itsPizzarific]

Does that mean I can finally make a bowazon because people clear out their windforces for a few pgems?

:lol: :lol: :lol:

[XZON]

Here is my plan

slap pride in might merc
use faith bow

you have 3 auras : fanaticism, concentration and might!

the damage will be so sick, you could clean easily hell chaos sanctuary with strafe!

Would the % ed stack for all 3 or would the aura's alternate. I hope that the might or concentration would not override fanaticism. How does this work?

[CoRRuPt-OnE]

They all work in conjunction with each other do they not? I remember many times when people had might mercs hammerdins and zealers in the same baal game and they all stacked.

[Rane-]

They do indeed stack perfectly. I am in the process of working on a 'Trinity Ranger' Using Ice+Dragon+Dream on a paladin. Max the synergies and Conviction and you have a cool dude :D. Might throw a Faith Merc in there for good measure.

[Rane-]

Stupid double post.