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soulesschild
07-12-2004, 01:24
I have to say, I am impressed on how well it does. Thought some people would be interested in how I built her.

HoA-Souless
Lvl 90
Str: 12 (Base)
Dex: *Its currently at enough to give me 73% block with my shield, will hit 75 once i get a new circlet/lvl up*
Vit: Nothing
Energy: Everything

Life: From 1.2-1.5k depending on my setup
Mana: Anywhere from 3.5k-3.7k depending on block/no block setups

Lvl 40 ES with base lvl 7
Lvl 44 Lightning/Charged Bolt/Lighting Mastery/44 Telekinesis (Even though it doesnt mean much after 20 lol)
Lvl 9 Base CL, 33 with gear
Lvl 1 Warmth
Lvl 1 TS, and everything else in light tree as pre-requiste

Lightning Dmg: 6-24k
CB: 827-857, 24 bolts
CL: 6-8576

FHR: anywhere from 30,42,60,86 depending on what class

Matchups(In a GM no absorb setting but allowed to use 4x LO shield etc):
Bone Necro - Too easy, far too easy
Bow Amazon - Their moot now with block, used to be challenging if they were lucky to get enough arrows locked, not anymore
Light Amazon - Gotta play careful on this one but easy nevertheless
Barb - Anywhere from easy to hard depending on how good, OW usually eats me though
Druids - Hard, but can do okay if played carefully
Pallys - Chargers used to eat me, but I pretty much do very well now
WWsins - Anywhere from easy to hard, depending on their venom dmg
Trapsins - Easy when I play carefully, fire trapsins eat me if they catch me in a lock though

Did i miss any chars?

If they stack res on me, it makes the duel longer and a bit harder, but I can come out on top.

Did I miss anything else in my gear/skills/stat/class matchup selection?

prexus
07-12-2004, 01:45
Would you please care to explain how bone necros are far too easy?

Tank081
07-12-2004, 01:58
I have to say, I am impressed on how well it does. Thought some people would be interested in how I built her.

HoA-Souless
Lvl 90
Str: 12 (Base)
Dex: *Its currently at enough to give me 73% block with my shield, will hit 75 once i get a new circlet/lvl up*
Vit: Nothing
Energy: Everything

Life: From 1.2-1.5k depending on my setup
Mana: Anywhere from 3.5k-3.7k depending on block/no block setups

Lvl 40 ES with base lvl 7
Lvl 44 Lightning/Charged Bolt/Lighting Mastery/44 Telekinesis (Even though it doesnt mean much after 20 lol)
Lvl 9 Base CL, 33 with gear
Lvl 1 Warmth
Lvl 1 TS, and everything else in light tree as pre-requiste

Lightning Dmg: 6-24k
CB: 827-857, 24 bolts
CL: 6-8576

FHR: anywhere from 30,42,60,86 depending on what class

Matchups(In a GM no absorb setting but allowed to use 4x LO shield etc):
Bone Necro - Too easy, far too easy
Bow Amazon - Their moot now with block, used to be challenging if they were lucky to get enough arrows locked, not anymore
Light Amazon - Gotta play careful on this one but easy nevertheless
Barb - Anywhere from easy to hard depending on how good, OW usually eats me though
Druids - Hard, but can do okay if played carefully
Pallys - Chargers used to eat me, but I pretty much do very well now
WWsins - Anywhere from easy to hard, depending on their venom dmg
Trapsins - Easy when I play carefully, fire trapsins eat me if they catch me in a lock though

Did i miss any chars?

If they stack res on me, it makes the duel longer and a bit harder, but I can come out on top.

Did I miss anything else in my gear/skills/stat/class matchup selection?

Sounds great souless, i knew a Light/Es sorc would be deadly in your hands. Are you on ladder or nl? I would love to see you duel sometime. By the way could you list your gear and what you switch to depending on who you duel.

soulesschild
07-12-2004, 02:03
bone necros are easy because of 95% ES + MDR

Let me recap something, 7k+ spears do no noticable damage, +20 life replenish on hoto takes care of it, 15k hammers i can tank 3 before losing any mana/health, orbs dont even hurt me one bit, nor do they take alot of mana, you get the picture

Thats RIGHT! I forgot GEAR! lol I'm NL btw on *hoa-souless

Gear:
Helm: Mal/Sol Shako and a Ko'ed +2/20 FCr/17 life/60 mana soon to upgrade circy
Amulet: Wraith Collar/crafted +2 light/10cast/life/mana/+3 light 28 str prebuff amulet
Weapon: +9 ES staff/hoto/cta
Armor: Perfect Viper magi Maled
Shield: elded whistans/mal lidless/sol lidless
2x Sojs
Arachnids
Frostburns
Impshanks

Charms are all 40+ light lifers
Scs are 6 5fhr/mana scs, rest are life/mana + anni

Superbit
07-12-2004, 02:05
Hey, I'm working on one very similar to yours.
Mind showing my some tricks?
I seem to be having all kinds of problems with my sorc.

An act 1 Fallen took my whole orb in one hit, (level 38 orb, max telekinesis)

no2fakeshakes
07-12-2004, 03:14
missed fire sorcs and light sorcs

makes me want to make one since i have the gear lying around

soulesschild
07-12-2004, 03:27
ah good point no2fakeshakes :P

Fire: Gotta play careful else they'll eat my mana quick, sometimes i try crazy and teleport on top of a CB static shock kill :P
Light: Full ones will **** your ES no problem and kill you, so this is a very very challenging duel IMO, its all about aiming and trying to get the first lucky shot to stun and finish it as quick as possible.

Sartok
07-12-2004, 17:04
Looks good soulless... your too rich for my blood... nice skillers hahaha.


:xfrosty:

ZealotAssasin
07-12-2004, 18:57
I have an Light/ES sorc almost likes except for the fact I am in no way rich. He uses:

Shako
Skin of Vipermagi 35/11
Wizardspike/Oculus (Waiting to get a cheap Hoto and hopefully a +9 ES staff)
Whitstan's Guard
Arachnid
2x 10% FCR mana/str rings
Frostburns
Waterwalks
Tal's Ammy

No useful charms as of yet.

soulesschild
09-12-2004, 00:39
A question, why is it that sometimes, I'll lose a huge chunk of life, but almost like no mana, but still have my ES orb up? bug? glitch? or what?

Sartok
09-12-2004, 01:58
That is what I was telling you about earlier... does it happen alot with fire? Because fire was my main problem with that... I think its just a little glitchy when it comes to that.

soulesschild
09-12-2004, 02:30
That is what I was telling you about earlier... does it happen alot with fire? Because fire was my main problem with that... I think its just a little glitchy when it comes to that.

i thought you meant why does your mana die so fast o_O lol

It happened to me with blizzard/a trapsin locking me, i'm starting to notice it more and more as i test it with elemental/physical such as a barb's WW. I'm not sure why, but maybe it's due to multiple hits? In the case of FB, the splash?

arkitekt
09-12-2004, 04:24
nice sorc, i wonder where u got the setup from :uhhuh:

Gotcha
09-12-2004, 15:57
bone necros are easy because of 95% ES + MDR

Gear:
Helm: Mal/Sol Shako and a Ko'ed +2/20 FCr/17 life/60 mana soon to upgrade Armor: Perfect Viper magi Maled
Shield: elded whistans/mal lidless/sol lidless
Scs are 6 5fhr/mana scs, rest are life/mana + anni

Hmmm, I use a FB sorc but was waiting for your update since I was thinking about this possible build. Just a couple of questions?

Why the mal/sol socketed stuff. Does the damage reduced by 7 really do anything. It is just 7 right not 7%.

Have you found that 30% FHR is probably the best all around number. I mean did you see a diff going to 60%?

Man you have me pulling my hair out on this Mal/sol stuff hehe

soulesschild
09-12-2004, 19:16
Hmmm, I use a FB sorc but was waiting for your update since I was thinking about this possible build. Just a couple of questions?

Why the mal/sol socketed stuff. Does the damage reduced by 7 really do anything. It is just 7 right not 7%.

Have you found that 30% FHR is probably the best all around number. I mean did you see a diff going to 60%?

Man you have me pulling my hair out on this Mal/sol stuff hehe

It's just 7 straight damage, think of it this way.

6k spear for sake of easy numbers,
1/6th pvp penalty = 1000
1000x5%(ES)=500
500 - Mals = Reduced damage

Though it seems that there's something weird about my calculations because I hardly take any damage from 6k+ spears for about 6-9 consecutive hits. I'll look at my equation again soon.

If you're FB, mals wont do much really because not a high ES =/

I usually run at 42 FHR because i traded away one life/mana so im using like 6 FHR/mana. The only time I THINK that 86 or anything higher FHR is useful is vs necros/fb sorcs/lightning sorcs/trappers, though a fire trapper will kill you anyway if they catch you in a good lock.

Dennis_KoreanGuy
09-12-2004, 20:35
:xflash: Hum... Everything seems to be in order... :xflash:

Dammit makes my 40k lightning sorc look bad... :xx:

- Dennis

soulesschild
09-12-2004, 20:46
a 40k Light sorc will chew through most ES sorcs though due to such high damage, possibly even 1-2 hit kill

Dennis_KoreanGuy
09-12-2004, 21:09
a 40k Light sorc will chew through most ES sorcs though due to such high damage, possibly even 1-2 hit kill

:xman: Obviously, since ES will do lil against magical dam...

It's just that I've a problem w/ hi fcr 6k spear necs you know... :xx:

- Dennis

soulesschild
09-12-2004, 21:14
ES does alot agaisnt magic damage, but a PURE light sorc, my friend's does 48k with 3.2k life, always eats me just because he can tank me before I can tank him.

ES eats necros too easily if they don't stack/absorb. Too easily.

Dennis_KoreanGuy
09-12-2004, 21:19
ES does alot agaisnt magic damage, but a PURE light sorc, my friend's does 48k with 3.2k life, always eats me just because he can tank me before I can tank him.

ES eats necros too easily if they don't stack/absorb. Too easily.

48k WoW. :xeek:

Mine is 40k but my sorc is lvl 85 so I guess if I lvl to 99 I'd reach 48k peak... hopefully... :xsnow:

3.2k life... :xflash: BooHoo I only got 2.5...

- Dennis

soulesschild
09-12-2004, 22:01
hes only 92 i think o_O

Sartok
10-12-2004, 01:02
Ha! I finally got someone who knows what I mean... I find it happens sometimes with asn trappers, alot with barbs, and almost always with fire sorcs... any comparison to your experience?

no2fakeshakes
10-12-2004, 02:17
hes only 92 i think o_O

nah, im 94, im trying to hit 50k+, but im too lazy to look for the right gear > <

arkitekt
10-12-2004, 02:41
souless ur math needs brushing up on 5% of 1000 = 50 dmg thats why es sorcs are so effective against necs.

skygoneblue
16-12-2004, 15:21
It's just 7 straight damage, think of it this way.

6k spear for sake of easy numbers,
1/6th pvp penalty = 1000
1000x5%(ES)=500
500 - Mals = Reduced damage

Though it seems that there's something weird about my calculations because I hardly take any damage from 6k+ spears for about 6-9 consecutive hits. I'll look at my equation again soon.

If you're FB, mals wont do much really because not a high ES =/



:lol: Well, let me explain why you aren't taking much damage.

6000 Bonespear
1/6 for PvP = 1000
with a 95% ES this will be reduced to 50, not 500! ;)
Reducing 50 damage by 7 multiple times its awesome IMO.

Absolute-Fire
16-12-2004, 21:08
I have to say, I am impressed on how well it does. Thought some people would be interested in how I built her.

HoA-Souless
Lvl 90
Str: 12 (Base)
Dex: *Its currently at enough to give me 73% block with my shield, will hit 75 once i get a new circlet/lvl up*
Vit: Nothing
Energy: Everything

Life: From 1.2-1.5k depending on my setup
Mana: Anywhere from 3.5k-3.7k depending on block/no block setups

Lvl 40 ES with base lvl 7
Lvl 44 Lightning/Charged Bolt/Lighting Mastery/44 Telekinesis (Even though it doesnt mean much after 20 lol)
Lvl 9 Base CL, 33 with gear
Lvl 1 Warmth
Lvl 1 TS, and everything else in light tree as pre-requiste

Lightning Dmg: 6-24k
CB: 827-857, 24 bolts
CL: 6-8576

FHR: anywhere from 30,42,60,86 depending on what class

Matchups(In a GM no absorb setting but allowed to use 4x LO shield etc):
Bone Necro - Too easy, far too easy
Bow Amazon - Their moot now with block, used to be challenging if they were lucky to get enough arrows locked, not anymore
Light Amazon - Gotta play careful on this one but easy nevertheless
Barb - Anywhere from easy to hard depending on how good, OW usually eats me though
Druids - Hard, but can do okay if played carefully
Pallys - Chargers used to eat me, but I pretty much do very well now
WWsins - Anywhere from easy to hard, depending on their venom dmg
Trapsins - Easy when I play carefully, fire trapsins eat me if they catch me in a lock though

Did i miss any chars?

If they stack res on me, it makes the duel longer and a bit harder, but I can come out on top.

Did I miss anything else in my gear/skills/stat/class matchup selection?

Sigh... you should duel with me...Absolute-Limit lvl 91

dkay
20-12-2004, 17:18
absolute-limit... heh this should be a ver good match up