Frosty Questions

[LordKdog(ik)]

Im a frostidin

I have maxed HF,RC and sacrafice, a few skills into HS too
The questions I have is what to max next?
Max Salvation for the 7% Syner.
Or
Max Zeal (currently 6 skill leve) for the AR & 6% dmg

BUT before everyone says MAX ZEAL for Ar,,,

I have another Side question too,,,
What weapon is best?
Heavens Light
Or
Creasent Moon

Now heres the problem,,

In my understanding going with CM would ITD so the zeal skill would be usless(sort of) so then I would choose to max Salvation for more cold.
Or
Go with Heaven's light and then I will need the AR & dmg. and the CB is nice but I find it slow. snd there are sockets to?

So if anyone has any tips or advice all imput is welcome

bye

[[exile]]

go with heaven's light and pump zeal for the AR. make sure to shael shael it.

cresc moon is a tesladin (holy shock paladin) weapon.

[LordKdog(ik)]

Hrmm Sheal sheal eh?

by my calculations it doesn't need sheal sheal cuz
20 from gloves
20 form highlords
and say 15 ias jewl in my helm
would that put it at 55% or 5 fpa.
To achieve 4 fpa You need 142%?
To achieve 5 fpa you need 42%

Correct me if my addition is wrong.

Maybe I can put an Eth sheal or eth eth or something else into it


Max zeal huh,, ok
Thanks for the tips
hope to hear back.
BYE

[[exile]]

your addition is correct, but remember that you actually need 63%ias (not including the 20% from heav light... so 43% more) for 5fpa. i wasn't expecting you to use highlord's; with shael shael and 20ias gloves you wouldn't need highlord's or the jewel. eth could help a lot with you AR though, so i would suggest you put shael eth, wear 20ias gloves, and strap on either a nosferatu's coil OR an ias jewel. then your amulet is free for metalgrid/seraphs/maras.

if you're having AR problems, metalgrid could be a good choice for an amulet.

[darken98_19]

I can list skills and equip for my frostadin, kinda expensive on the equip side but here goes:

20 Holy Freeze
20 Resist Cold
6 Salvation
20 Zeal
15 Sacrafice
8 Holy Shield

With all the pre-reqs and the odd wasted point here and there. clvl 87

Equip:

Shael'd Ber'd Heavens Light +3 Skills
Um'd Gilluame Face
Eth Exile with resists
Maras
BK Ring
Ravenfrost
Wirefleece CoH
Crafted Bloodgloves with 20 IAS and 5% Crushin Blow
Goreriders

Im doing around 4K damage and have maxed resists in hell, have around 103% crushing blow, so I kill stuff damn fast. And I have 40 IAS total from Heavens and the 20 from my gloves, so Im hitting the breakpoint. 13K defense with holy shield, so I plan on pumping that some. But thats my set up. Dunno if it helps or not.

[LordKdog(ik)]

Thanks all for the help,
Doing the tweeking now,,

But Darken98 you say your are hitting the breakpoint?
You have 40 from Heavens and 20 form gloves. I thought
you needed 63% total?

I have 20from Heavens, (eth &__ in heavens) 20 from gloves 15 in helm and 20 in ammy. I still have an open spot in heaves but I dont think I have hit the last breakpoint. If I take of my gloves I stilll looks the same speed.
Thats a total of 75% IAS and I assume that is plenty. Am I missing something.
Correct me if I cant see the problem cuz I am blind.

[darken98_19]

Thanks all for the help,
Doing the tweeking now,,

But Darken98 you say your are hitting the breakpoint?
You have 40 from Heavens and 20 form gloves. I thought
you needed 63% total?

I have 20from Heavens, (eth &__ in heavens) 20 from gloves 15 in helm and 20 in ammy. I still have an open spot in heaves but I dont think I have hit the last breakpoint. If I take of my gloves I stilll looks the same speed.
Thats a total of 75% IAS and I assume that is plenty. Am I missing something.
Correct me if I cant see the problem cuz I am blind.


Eh Im not hitting the 4 bp hitting the 5..need 3% more...from somewheres.
Darn.

[[exile]]

strap on a nosferatu... or a jewel?

[Euro-Crash]

']go with heaven's light and pump zeal for the AR. make sure to shael shael it.

cresc moon is a tesladin (holy shock paladin) weapon.

No...do not dual SHAEL this weapon. If you do you are not making wise equipment decisions. Check the IAS calculator for how much IAS you need with a Mighty Scepter to reach 5 fpa. You will not acheive 4 fpa....

Best things to socket this weapon with are:

-SHAEL+ETH
-SHAEL+BER
-SHAEL+UM
-SHAEL+JAH

[[exile]]

you need 63% to hit 5fpa.
heav light has an inherent 20% so you need 43% more.


i personally like the shael shael so i can wear mara's instead of highlords. although the other suggestions are great too -- depends on how much of your gear/sockets you're willing to spend on ias.

[Euro-Crash]

']you need 63% to hit 5fpa.
heav light has an inherent 20% so you need 43% more.


i personally like the shael shael so i can wear mara's instead of highlords. although the other suggestions are great too -- depends on how much of your gear/sockets you're willing to spend on ias.

Frost Zealots work well with +skills and crushing blow. I have a Guillame's with a 15 IAS jewel in it, an HoZ with a 15 IAS jewel in it and a SHAEL+JAH Heaven's Light.

Combined with other equipment, I have a lvl 43 Holy Freeze with all synergies, enough IAS to reach the 5fpa breakpoint, and 83% crushing blow. I like using the other socket for something else, while wearing a 2/2 Seraph's and aquiring the additional IAS from other sources.

He is setup like:

-Guillame's (15 IAS)
-2/2 Seraph's
-CoH Archon
-3/2 Heaven's Light (SHAEL+JAH)/Call To Arms (6/5/2)
-BK Band
-Ravenfrost
-HoZ (15 IAS)/Lidless Wall
-Dracul's Grasp
-Arachnid Mesh
-Gore Rider's
-Annihilus
-10 Offensive Aura GC's
-Various small charms

I have a lvl 91 Blessed Aim merc equipped with:

-Guillame's Face (SHAEL)
-Up'd Duriel's Shell (SHAEL)
-Reaper's Toll (AMN)

Though the Jah gives the weapon ITD, it does not work versus bosses. It does however work on the rest of the monsters in the realm. I find that the boost from the merc's aura, combined with a pre-buff from Demonlimb (lvl 23 Enchant) is more than adequate. This results in an 85% chance to hit Hell Ancients, 95% chance to hit Hell Cows.

It's really up to you...just make sure at least one of those sockets gets a SHAEL so you can reach the 5fpa breakpoint. An ETH will lower your enemies defense, BER will add more crushing blow, LO will give more deadly strike, UM will give more open wounds, OHM will give more damage, JAH will give ITD, and GUL will give a 20% boost to AR.

[Wurmer]

If you have the wealth of course, Ber Ber is another interesting option.

[Euro-Crash]

If you have the wealth of course, Ber Ber is another interesting option.

True enough...provided you reach the 5fpa Zeal with enough IAS from other sources. This would give you 73% crushing blow on your weapon alone. Crushing blow is a very good mod to use with a Frost Zealot. Max Cold Damage is a good thing, but this mod comes in handy when you run into a Cold Immune...

[ironman7979]

Combined with other equipment, I have a lvl 43 Holy Freeze with all synergies


What kind of dmg is that?!

[space_loner]

indeed euro-what dmg? :)
I doubt its too high, 4k wasnt it as I recall? Skill lvl not as important as jewels in my opinion, hah if I could id use a fathom.

Anyhow anyone who has ber ber should make a doom weapon for their frosty. Otherwise stick to speedy and damaging since you maxed sacrifice. Decent options are:

Baranar Star
Nord's
Lightsabre
(all these can be acquired with pgems)

and of course the end all be all non doom is your heaven's light, I think its kind of wasted on a frosty though. Silence is nice, as is famine, azurewrath adds cold damage.

[Euro-Crash]

It's about 4K...you are right, more damage could be reached using a Doom weapon, 20/5 Ormus, 20/5 Nightwing, and a 20/20 Monarch. This would result in a potential -90% enemy cold resistance and an added 60% cold damage.

If I remember correctly there is an issue with R. Facets and their +/-%. I seem to remember a thread (I think made by space_loner), that indicated that this damage is bugged and will be added twice. Whether or not this is true, equipping such items would indeed add a greater chunk of damage than +skills...but again sacrifices would have to be made.

I think that with my Frost Zealot, I attempted to squeeze out as much cold damage, +skills and crushing blow as possible all while maintaining a 5fpa attack. For PvP I am experimenting with a few things that I think may work quite well.

-Max Cold Dmg/DR (20/5 Nightwing, 20/5 Ormus, -60% Doom, 5/5 SS)
-High Cold/CB (PvM Equipment)
-Public Setup (CoH, CoA, Dungo, Beast Caddy, Exile Vortex)
-Polar Bear (CoH, CoA, BoTD PB, Dungo, HoZ (or 5/5 SS)) - Werebear form

Some of these setups are fun to play with...I am having the most fun with the bear...but space_loner is right in saying the jewels will add more damage. I think this is because the damage is added twice...not sure if this is correct. Someone had mentioned this in regard to their Tesladin....

[Salo]

I am not sure why people dont talk about using conviction as a tactic or using a medusa's gaze shield.

Has anyone tried using these? I am assuming the -51% TRUE lower resist will work to break some of the cold immunities. If I remember correctly, 80% cold res is the lowest you can lower a once cold immune monster.

My guy is on Nonladder and has a Heaven's Light scepter, kept it from a cheap trade on first season ladder. I was wondering what effect an Eth has on bosses? I really dislike boosting zeal for its AR, feels like a waste of power. Also, so does getting 75% blocking, say 55% might be fine enough im thinking if one has good resists and such.

I just bought a 8% leeching Medusa's gaze. it dawned on me that it has slow on it as well! jeez, this is an awesome item, with multiple cold sources, and slow, plus lower resist from shield (less resistance to cold longer it will last) and of course, HFreeze, really this should slow things down a heap! Arrows might be a problem, and for that I am going for an Eld in a whitsan's, dont need holy shield for that to be near max.

Also duress, im not sure anyone talks about this item? they used to. Crafted blood gloves look like the way to go. Ias, is something im not sure im goign to do. I dont think you need 5 frames for pvm when everything is at less than half speed? I put a Ber in my Light, but im too tiny yet to use it.

What a cool build :)

[Euro-Crash]

I am not sure why people dont talk about using conviction as a tactic or using a medusa's gaze shield.

Has anyone tried using these? I am assuming the -51% TRUE lower resist will work to break some of the cold immunities. If I remember correctly, 80% cold res is the lowest you can lower a once cold immune monster.

My guy is on Nonladder and has a Heaven's Light scepter, kept it from a cheap trade on first season ladder. I was wondering what effect an Eth has on bosses? I really dislike boosting zeal for its AR, feels like a waste of power. Also, so does getting 75% blocking, say 55% might be fine enough im thinking if one has good resists and such.

I just bought a 8% leeching Medusa's gaze. it dawned on me that it has slow on it as well! jeez, this is an awesome item, with multiple cold sources, and slow, plus lower resist from shield (less resistance to cold longer it will last) and of course, HFreeze, really this should slow things down a heap! Arrows might be a problem, and for that I am going for an Eld in a whitsan's, dont need holy shield for that to be near max.

Also duress, im not sure anyone talks about this item? they used to. Crafted blood gloves look like the way to go. Ias, is something im not sure im goign to do. I dont think you need 5 frames for pvm when everything is at less than half speed? I put a Ber in my Light, but im too tiny yet to use it.

What a cool build :)

Using Medusa's Gaze might be good for its chance to cast Lower Resist when struck...save for one thing: Required Strength > 219. This is very heavy....

I don't feel like boosting Zeal for the AR is a bad idea. In HELL you will miss an awful lot if you do not...even if you were to put an ETH rune in your scepter you would miss BOSSES (ETH no workie against BOSS). JAH will help, but again not versus BOSSES. The only thing that would work is a GUL rune...20% to AR (but this is not that much so why bother?).

Even with -% enemy resistance to cold, you cannot break immunities without LR. Your plan to use a Medusa's Gaze may seem at first to be a good idea, but an HoZ is hands down the better option. If you want LR, you can get a wand with charges of it from Akara. If you feel comfortable with 55% chance to block, by all means go for it...IMHO, 75% chance to block is a wiser route.

The slow on Medusa's Gaze is nothing to write home about. If you REALLY want to see the effects of SLOW, equip a merc with a Kelpie Snare or Reaper's Toll. Kelpie has 75% slow on it, and the Reaper's gives a 33% CTC Decrepify (58% slow + other very, very useful efffects).

Duress has been discussed as a Frost Zealot armor, but if you can get to 80% CB without it, getting a CoH Archon Plate is a much better decision. Gorerider + Guillame's Face + Heaven's Light = 83%.

Also, swinging slower than 5 fpa will be a huge deal. Getting to a 5 fpa Zeal is not that hard. All you need is a SHAEL in your weapon and two 15 IAS jewels. If you swing slower than 5 fpa you will notice it...trust me.

Rekcuf-rehtom - lvl 91 Frost Zealot (USWest NL)

[Salo]

I thank you for your comments. I am sick of pally's blocking 75%, none of my other chars do that besides 109 pdagger necro, the rest do 50-55% blocking, good enough if you have a slow down or disperse skill, i feel.

I dont want to use chains of honour either. I have it. I use it whenever a character is all messed up and needs to be saved. it saves any character, just like in pvp, enigma saves every character. So, no enig no that either. I am hoping to get steel rends from sort of trade, thats 20 strength, 20 strength from t-gods, thats 40, i have a 28 Andariels visage, thats 68..... with my 20 stat annihilus thats 88. I would normally put 150 base str in this build anyways, I like to do some hefty whacking with my stick normally.

Anadariel's super low fire res is going to be a challenge. I guess i keep this dwarf star on, it has the fire absorb plus 15 MDR on it. ill have absorb elemental damage fairly pat down, i dont expect to get higher than 20 res all except id be max on cold from the weirdo medusa shield.

im going to get 5 frames though, sounds like a sound plan.... says 65 ias needed? thats 40 for the weapon with a shael, and 20 more from gear right? i could maybe put a 15 in the andariels thing ?

[Euro-Crash]

I thank you for your comments. I am sick of pally's blocking 75%, none of my other chars do that besides 109 pdagger necro, the rest do 50-55% blocking, good enough if you have a slow down or disperse skill, i feel.

I dont want to use chains of honour either. I have it. I use it whenever a character is all messed up and needs to be saved. it saves any character, just like in pvp, enigma saves every character. So, no enig no that either. I am hoping to get steel rends from sort of trade, thats 20 strength, 20 strength from t-gods, thats 40, i have a 28 Andariels visage, thats 68..... with my 20 stat annihilus thats 88. I would normally put 150 base str in this build anyways, I like to do some hefty whacking with my stick normally.

Anadariel's super low fire res is going to be a challenge. I guess i keep this dwarf star on, it has the fire absorb plus 15 MDR on it. ill have absorb elemental damage fairly pat down, i dont expect to get higher than 20 res all except id be max on cold from the weirdo medusa shield.

im going to get 5 frames though, sounds like a sound plan.... says 65 ias needed? thats 40 for the weapon with a shael, and 20 more from gear right? i could maybe put a 15 in the andariels thing ?

If you are comfortable with 55% go with it. If you are going to have enough strength for Medusa's go for it. I use CoH because I like the +2 skills. I like to have lvl 43 HF and 83% Crushing Blow...but do whatever YOU like.

The -30% Fire Resist can be negated with a RAL rune...but this would be at the expense of the needed IAS to reach 5 fpa. You could go for a 15rez/15ias jewel...but they are spendy. Personally I have found that having maxed resists is a good plan...but this can be made up with charms. Run NM cows and you will find plenty...I found a few 20 life/11% rez elemental there...those I find to be very good.

[Salo]

If you are comfortable with 55% go with it. If you are going to have enough strength for Medusa's go for it. I use CoH because I like the +2 skills. I like to have lvl 43 HF and 83% Crushing Blow...but do whatever YOU like.

The -30% Fire Resist can be negated with a RAL rune...but this would be at the expense of the needed IAS to reach 5 fpa. You could go for a 15rez/15ias jewel...but they are spendy. Personally I have found that having maxed resists is a good plan...but this can be made up with charms. Run NM cows and you will find plenty...I found a few 20 life/11% rez elemental there...those I find to be very good.

yeah res all im not a fan of anymore, id rather get some absorb action going on with this guy, he's not skills dependent as much as most odd builds, i figure on +3 offensive ammy i have, the +3 Light i have, annihilus, thats 7. I have 4 offensive GC's, thats 11, so 41, should be good enough to do what its supposed to do. If i go andariel's, i get 43, kinda huge im guessing.

But in all, i dont think he needs all that. I guess the 5 frames makes this build work better, and so does cblow% being high.
53% from weapon
9% from blood gloves
25% from goblin toes (yes they are slow but are cool)
15% from Duress
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hey, thats 102% cblow! i like to roll things every time, makes a Death cleaver so awesome, the deadly strike with a highlords makes it every time.
I need 65% ias to get this mighty scepter to zeal at 5 fpa ? right?
20% on weapon
20% on gloves
20% on And. Visage
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5% more right? I could use a ed%/ias jewel in the weapon, could be kinda nice eh?
i could socket visage with a ptopaz. I like some mf. got some mfsc's, i always get at least 70 on every character, does a lot at that level. Shield I guess I am going to Um it. 22 res all might show up something positive with all of the gear combo's and absorbs, might work fine.

overall, the setup has like 20% life leech.

[space_loner]

not that im suggesting to use a polearm, but anyone notice the new polearms give 300% bonus to ar (and i thought 50% on atlantean was alot). A lvl 12 conviction from infinity also helps... infinitely.

[Euro-Crash]

not that im suggesting to use a polearm, but anyone notice the new polearms give 300% bonus to ar (and i thought 50% on atlantean was alot). A lvl 12 conviction from infinity also helps... infinitely.

You're right. This is icky...300% is an isane amount. 50% is an OK amount...but lets think of an AR of 10K. Does the % to AR modify BASE AR...or the total AR?

If you had an AR of 10K, with the Atlantean you would have 15K...but with INFINITY, you would have an AR of 40K. This is if the total AR is modified and not the BASE AR. This is a disgusting amount...maybe you would hit things ad infinitum?

[Captain_Straydum]

Since most of those dont have these kinds of uber items lying around, but does ebotd zerker axe work with every Paladin subclass that involves using zeal?
I did not ask that to insult the people who cannot get it, just a question.. dont hurt me!
-Straydum

[space_loner]

nah, some of the RWs arent too expensive last time I checked.

So, the ultimate AR:
a lot of dex and ar bonus from items: 5k (easy enough)
slvl 20 zeal: 200% (i think?) 15k
300% AR on polearm: (well say it adds to base) 30k
200% on slvl 20 blessed aim (i guessed here) 40k YAY

But i think the aura should at least multiply total, even if everything else doesnt, so 90k

[Euro-Crash]

Since most of those dont have these kinds of uber items lying around, but does ebotd zerker axe work with every Paladin subclass that involves using zeal?
I did not ask that to insult the people who cannot get it, just a question.. dont hurt me!
-Straydum

No. I have a a BoTD PB for bear mode only. I have a Beast Caddy for good old fashioned *** whooping. I have a Doom Zerk for achieving -100% enemy cold resist. Heaven's Light is my pick for PvM though...

Really a EBoTDZ is a standard issue weapon that most people use on their Zealots...some use Doom...hehe...not me. I like to switch it up on people and use Beast...and when they say "must you use Doom..." it makes me chuckle...since they automatically assume I am using Doom because of HF. Even when I have a Heaven's Light equipped, I hear the same thing.

You can use a EBoTDZ on your Zealot if you wish, but you would still need a boost from Fana to hit a 4 fpa Zeal. This is why I wouldn't do it...

[Salo]

so far, NM is going away like liquid with 75% cblow, and, I want more for hell. Yes, I believe in the original builder girl on this one, more cblow the better. FUnky things happen with computers and 100% vs 90%, im sure my 103% plan is going to work :D.

Right now im using Zakarum hand thing, i never knew how good this thing was till 1.10, jeez, its a nice weapon for odd builds like this one. I have now duress on at 54, a great item, and Guillame's face with goblin toes. I had been using Rattlecage, but i figure its nice to use something elite level. I killed izual in nm with 4 players in it and it died SUPER fast to my cblow. a few seconds

[Euro-Crash]

so far, NM is going away like liquid with 75% cblow, and, I want more for hell. Yes, I believe in the original builder girl on this one, more cblow the better. FUnky things happen with computers and 100% vs 90%, im sure my 103% plan is going to work :D.

Right now im using Zakarum hand thing, i never knew how good this thing was till 1.10, jeez, its a nice weapon for odd builds like this one. I have now duress on at 54, a great item, and Guillame's face with goblin toes. I had been using Rattlecage, but i figure its nice to use something elite level. I killed izual in nm with 4 players in it and it died SUPER fast to my cblow. a few seconds

Normal is a cakewalk...NM is too....with enough +skill items (~35 HF) you will notice that even enemies in NM will pop as you run by them. Crushing Blow is a good thing, no? I find it to be one of the sexiest mods ever invented.

If you have problems hitting monsters hire a Blessed Aim merc, as Might, Thorns, Prayer won't help. Defiance is a good aura, but with high lvl HF you really won't need it.

Zak's Hand is a good weapon...but on NL (even Ladder) a Heaven's Light is realtively inexpensive...try to get your hands on one. They are quite lovely. As for other issues...keeping a Demonlimb to pre-buff is a decent idea. Another thing you may want to try is a Nord's Tenderizer...this is a decent weapon as well.

GL-HF!

[Salo]

Normal is a cakewalk...NM is too....with enough +skill items (~35 HF) you will notice that even enemies in NM will pop as you run by them. Crushing Blow is a good thing, no? I find it to be one of the sexiest mods ever invented.

If you have problems hitting monsters hire a Blessed Aim merc, as Might, Thorns, Prayer won't help. Defiance is a good aura, but with high lvl HF you really won't need it.

Zak's Hand is a good weapon...but on NL (even Ladder) a Heaven's Light is realtively inexpensive...try to get your hands on one. They are quite lovely. As for other issues...keeping a Demonlimb to pre-buff is a decent idea. Another thing you may want to try is a Nord's Tenderizer...this is a decent weapon as well.

GL-HF!

Yeah i have a light thingie, +3 with 2 sockets 271% ed, cant wait for it :D im going slow not doing baal's.
yeah lots of stuff dies fast to HF aura, defense is not that much needed, I am not sure im going to bother with holy shield, it takes like 5 points just to get it at 1, plus im going to use a Medusa's gaze, im not thinking that will be a ton of blocking there. ?

[Euro-Crash]

Yeah i have a light thingie, +3 with 2 sockets 271% ed, cant wait for it :D im going slow not doing baal's.
yeah lots of stuff dies fast to HF aura, defense is not that much needed, I am not sure im going to bother with holy shield, it takes like 5 points just to get it at 1, plus im going to use a Medusa's gaze, im not thinking that will be a ton of blocking there. ?

Yup. You could reasonably wait until much later in the game to add it. I used the 5 points to get lvl 1 Holy Shield...which with items is lvl 16. I fel this was a worthwhile investment for a boost in Defense...but not entirely necessary. If I had not done so I would have had maxed Sacrifice a bit sooner. As it stands I have 15 hard points in Sacrifice...it will be maxed one day...by lvl 96....

[Salo]

Yup. You could reasonably wait until much later in the game to add it. I used the 5 points to get lvl 1 Holy Shield...which with items is lvl 16. I fel this was a worthwhile investment for a boost in Defense...but not entirely necessary. If I had not done so I would have had maxed Sacrifice a bit sooner. As it stands I have 15 hard points in Sacrifice...it will be maxed one day...by lvl 96....


yes, sacrifice is like very usefull gravy on the build. It adds that meanness to it, giving it triple power.

I am 74 now, none of that was do to baal runs! i got from 50-74 without a baal run at all, just hardcore pimpin the monsters from scene to scene, no need to leech off peopple, i beat the piss outa stuff.

nice build!
100% cblow is a dream

[Euro-Crash]

yes, sacrifice is like very usefull gravy on the build. It adds that meanness to it, giving it triple power.

I am 74 now, none of that was do to baal runs! i got from 50-74 without a baal run at all, just hardcore pimpin the monsters from scene to scene, no need to leech off peopple, i beat the piss outa stuff.

nice build!
100% cblow is a dream

Hehe...me too. It was rough getting started. But after about lvl 40, it became a joke. My friends (who no longer play) became insanely jealous at the success of this build. Everyone I party with seriously underestimates me...and when they see me whooping the "doo-doo butter" out of everything, they ask:

"How much damage do you do?"

I explain to them that damage doesn't matter...I have 83% crushing blow. I ALWAYS take a percentage of the target hit-points away. So you've been experiencing success in PvM? Hehe...little secret for you...it works in PvP too. I'll give you a quick run down.

Versus WEAK opponents I leave my PvM gear on. Versus opponents with terrible cold resists, I switch up to a -60% DOOM, 15/15 Cold Griz Armor and 15/15 Cold Griz Shield to be MEAN...at which point I don't worry about AR, defense, IAS or really anything - the result is a "WTF killed me...you weren't even by me..."

Versus STRONGER opponents I usually switch up to 38% DR, 80/90/75/75 resists, 4 fpa Zeal, etc. This setup works against casters too (not all...but a fair portion of them). It's good against some cold sorcs...switch on Salvation, CHARGE to close distance, turn on HF and slap them silly....

For fun I fight as a BEAR, and I equip a BoTD PB...and it destroyed two Barbs last night...with style and grace. Seriously, I have to say that a Frost Zealot is the most fun I have ever had playing this game...

[rquethe]

Hey Euro, you seem pretty knowledgable about the the frost zealot, so I have a couple questions for you. I'm testing out to see what the maximum potential for PvM frost zealot is by constructing one with a character editor in single player. I'm using only items which could actually drop in the game, not ones with bogus attributes or anything like that. So I'm wondering what setup you would go with. Obviously, I saw your setup earlier in the thread, but if you could make it perfect, what would you do differently or what would you add? Assuming too that you are level 99 and have every point invested. What about merc too? Thanks in advance!

[rquethe]

One other question I thought of is this, when using a Doom with a Frost Zealot, what happens to that lvl 12 HF mod? Does that get added on top of whatever you HF skill is or what? That'd be pretty sick if it did.

[Ankeli]

on a side note, Salo, CB (as all hit mods) is capped @ 95% iirc... so in theory you have a chance to make a complete zeal without activating CB.. in theory :D

[jumbo_SHRIMP]

id say the very best froster weapon (if you are insanely rich) is a last wish in phase blade...
60-70% crushing blow <--this and guilame's face = 100% crushing blow
-30 speed <--72% needed for 4 frame zeal...only 13% needed for 5 frame
level 17 might aura<--200% enhanced damage
chance to cast life tap<--dont die(ever)
ignore target defense<--makes leveling sooper easy
375%enhanced damage(max)<--147-166<--nice damage
.5% mf per level: can u say gravy? i can...

i know this is an absurdly expensive weapon...but i definately think its the top freezer weapon...ever

phelix

[rquethe]

Well a Last Wish isn't available in Single player. So I can't test out how effective it would be in PvM. And of course, it being expensive and all throws that out for me personally. Though I hadn't heard that suggestion(mind you I'm a bit of an isolationist in that regard). Right now my thought is an ethereal Doom Zerker for PvM as being pretty kick butt!