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soulesschild
01-12-2004, 21:55
My newest ESlight sorc I've been debating with myself if i want to go blocking or not using an eld whistans, base str of course, what should i do?

Sartok
02-12-2004, 00:01
We've already kinda touched base on this... but I would go with none block and take the extra mana... it depends how much you will need. Any good calculators out there? What's the % on that??? 93% or something along those lines?

soulesschild
02-12-2004, 00:23
itd be about 94, the reason im asking now is because i get screwed over by chargers when they just keep on charging me until i die

Sartok
02-12-2004, 00:44
That I can sympathies for...

AndyChrono
02-12-2004, 01:31
Having block is generally better. Without it some matchups are much more difficult than they need to be:

-A good WW-barb could conceivably kill you in 1 ww if you have no blocking.
-A 7-frame zon with a knockback bow.......
-WW-sins
-And of course, chargers.

You'll lose like 700 mana to get blocking with that shield. Assuming your sorc will still have the same equip and stats as before aside from dex for blocking, the only matchup where having less mana might change the outcome of the duel would be against a fully loaded lightning sorc.

soulesschild
02-12-2004, 02:02
Having block is generally better. Without it some matchups are much more difficult than they need to be:

-A good WW-barb could conceivably kill you in 1 ww if you have no blocking.
-A 7-frame zon with a knockback bow.......
-WW-sins
-And of course, chargers.

You'll lose like 700 mana to get blocking with that shield. Assuming your sorc will still have the same equip and stats as before aside from dex for blocking, the only matchup where having less mana might change the outcome of the duel would be against a fully loaded lightning sorc.

fully loaded as in, pure light or a pure energy ESer?

oh and the 94% block should work in theory right

AndyChrono
02-12-2004, 04:31
Fully loaded as in pure lightning.

The 94% blocking does work =D

soulesschild
03-12-2004, 00:38
andy since your the master at math, how much mana would i lose sacraficing 2x sojs to keep 117% FCR rate with whistans, or is it not worth it vs melee?

AndyChrono
03-12-2004, 01:30
andy since your the master at math, how much mana would i lose sacraficing 2x sojs to keep 117% FCR rate with whistans, or is it not worth it vs melee?

Well using the same numbers I ran a couple days ago and if you're using Imps we're looking at about 60% +mana and with an 80% BO.

(1273*2.4)+135+40 = 3230 mana

Compared to your old values with 2 sojs and lidless its about 900 mana loss. If your FCR rings have +mana then this can be offset.

2 FCR rings with...

+40 mana each => 3422 mana
+60 mana each => 3518 mana
+80 mana each => 3614 mana
+90 mana each (most possible on rare ring) => 3662 mana
+120 mana each (most possible on magic ring) => 3806 mana

Original mana with 2 soj's and lidless = 4114 mana

soulesschild
03-12-2004, 01:48
interesting, ive got an 88 mana ring i think and a 71 left i hope.

Is that running with dex or no?

Oh would you guys say

maxed CB, maxed CL, or half and half on both?

AndyChrono
03-12-2004, 07:09
interesting, ive got an 88 mana ring i think and a 71 left i hope.

Is that running with dex or no?

Oh would you guys say

maxed CB, maxed CL, or half and half on both?

DOH!!! Forgot about the dex =\
I think you need like 100 points in dex with that whitstans so thats like 200 less base mana. Just subtract 500 total mana from the values I gave before.

As for CB or CL I'd probably take CL as its useful against things like summining necros and for leveling.

soulesschild
03-12-2004, 14:09
hrm..that kind of mana loss seems so steep o_O, the only reason I was thinking CB was for melee such as barbs, because its hard to catch them or fast teleporters with lightning/CL, though agreed, CL is pretty useful at times.

How many of you guys out there have blocking/es/light sorcs and how do they do?

Sartok
03-12-2004, 18:54
In the old ladder my light es sorc was blocking and she did well.

soulesschild
03-12-2004, 20:12
how was her life/mana/damage?

Sartok
03-12-2004, 20:42
I am unsure... I haven't played her in forever... I wil see if I can dig her up and let you know.


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