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It was recently brought to my attention the wonderful mods on lance guard shield and was wondering if an up'ed version of this might work for pvp zealot. I realize a lot of people use high ds weapons but there really isnt one mod to hate on this thing .. very sexy.
mods are:
Defense: 134-173 (varies)(Base Defense: 58-78)
Required Level: 35
Required Strength: 65
Chance to Block: Pal: 47%, Ama/Asn/Bar: 42%, Dru/Nec/Sor: 37%
Durability: 55
Paladin Smite Damage: 18 To 35
+70-120% Enhanced Defense (varies)
15% Damage Taken Goes To Mana
30% Faster Hit Recovery
20% Deadly Strike
+50 To Life
Attacker Takes Damage of 47
(Only Spawns In Patch 1.09 or later)
i dont think that the def will be high enough, maybe an eth one :scratch:
upgrading ethereal armor is bugged. it loses the inherent +50% base defense property. so basically you'd have the same defense if you were to upgrade the non-ethereal version, except it would break.
be careful with the block chance; holy shield is your best friend here.
could be a great shield but the lack of faster block rate makes this a problem for pvp... and using this instead of the standard e-exile could be a defensive problem.
either way, have fun!
faster block rate? Holy shield puts you @ 2 frames already (I think It's impossible to reach 1 frame)
and upgraded it has 50% CTB, just 1% less than a vortex shield. But you can put an eld rune in it for 7% more
It should have ~300 def when upgraded.
I'm really not comparing this to exile looking more into legit dueling ... rather i'm comparing it to
HoZ or alma negra ... mainly alma negra.
']upgrading ethereal armor is bugged.
i know i was saying to maybe use an eth one over a uppd one
and i wouldnt call eth exile the standard, unless youre welcome to many many people calling you a "bm noob"
for a standard zealot:
alma negra:
up to 121% Damage
up to 105% AR
up to 30% defense (from holy shield)
500+ def(non eth)+ open socket
750+ def (eth)
78% block
you've already posted the stats of lance guard.
upgraded:
350+ defense
50% block
open socket
ah, i see. if you're aiming for a legit dueler then i'd suggest you wear alma negra instead.
i also didn't know about the block speed bonus on holy shield -- wow!
for a standard zealot:
alma negra:
up to 121% Damage
up to 105% AR
up to 30% defense (from holy shield)
500+ def(non eth)+ open socket
750+ def (eth)
78% block
you've already posted the stats of lance guard.
upgraded:
350+ defense
50% block
open socket
i thought alma could only get 75/75 for dmg and ar?
the main reason you would be using a uppd lance guard would be for the dmg% to mana, and the ds
i thought alma could only get 75/75 for dmg and ar?
the main reason you would be using a uppd lance guard would be for the dmg% to mana, and the ds
I've included the +2 fanat/zeal/HS :)
prospectz
01-12-2004, 17:26
:) , ive been using one for quite some time now works very well for me. I have an up'd eld'd one so I can get max block with lower dex. Dunno how well it works for others builds, im a eth dc build and it allows me to get max DS without having to sacrifice AR which seems to be the most important thing nowadays imo :P.
but anyways works great for me and it makes dueling fun since most pallys that see me are like "ROFL NICE SHIELD NEWB" then they get rocked and I laugh :D .
Stoutwood
01-12-2004, 17:38
Yes, after taking a look at that shield I am also curious as to how well it would do. It certainly is unorthodox to say the least. The only think I will have trouble dealing with is the low block %.
LovelyGods
01-12-2004, 18:03
a shield that adds Ds? thats worth looking into.
good find.
yeah but you have to be on ladder to do it, because i dont think there are many people makin games after ladder season saying "uppd lance guard here" but who knows maybe it will take the game by storm
sorry for the double, but something occured to me, you could reach max ds without using gores with a razor if you are using this shield. this would free it up for some boots with a little bit tastier mods, like maybe hsarus set and angelics, would give quite an ar boost and you would have max ds and youre dfense would stay about the same
Hmmmmm i think im gonna up a few on ladder because i think it would work good on a different build too and i kinda want to play around with it a bit. Thanks for the input guys.
if you have an extra /w *valhearst and ill buy one off you to experiment
HandofElysium
02-12-2004, 12:17
Hmmmmm i think im gonna up a few on ladder because i think it would work good on a different build too and i kinda want to play around with it a bit. Thanks for the input guys.
Swordback hold shield is good upgraded as well. The block is decent but what makes it shine is the 50% chance of open wounds. I might upgraded lance as well if I ever wanted to make a unique zealot.
i thought swordback was used almost exclusively for smiters? it would be interesting though, with a razor, gores, and guillames, with 110 ow, 80 ds, and 50 cb
HandofElysium
02-12-2004, 13:18
i thought swordback was used almost exclusively for smiters? it would be interesting though, with a razor, gores, and guillames, with 110 ow, 80 ds, and 50 cb I would rather use etheral upgraded headstriker 100 plus open wounds and 100 plus deadly strike. :D
i think it would require too much ias with a headstriker, and where is the 100 ow comin from, i couldnt figure it out, unless you use dracs
HandofElysium
02-12-2004, 14:26
i think it would require too much ias with a headstriker, and where is the 100 ow comin from, i couldnt figure it out, unless you use dracs
Yeah I wouldn't use dracs and it wouldn't be 100 OW my mistake. I rather just have 100 plus Deadly Strike then 100 pluse open wounds for a zealot. I would change my gear to accomodate the headstriker as I think this is a underrated weapon.
stratocasterfury
02-12-2004, 17:20
ow and ds and cb caps at 95% iirc.
headstriker is insanely slow. you would need to sacrifice gloves and need highlords to get anywhere
HandofElysium
02-12-2004, 17:55
ow and ds and cb caps at 95% iirc.
headstriker is insanely slow. you would need to sacrifice gloves and need highlords to get anywhere
false. There is no deadlystrike and OpenWounds cap. You can get good crafted gloves and use cats eye if you wanted to. Or you can socket some armor or helm.
30 ias on helm (CoA)
30 on belt gloves (deaths set)
15 on shield( ss)
15 on armor (eth capace)
can reach good def, max dr, and 2 angelics. This is about the best set up i've been able to find with a headstriker / eth runmaster set up.... theoretically.
The Notorious
02-12-2004, 19:12
30 ias on helm (CoA)
30 on belt gloves (deaths set)
15 on shield( ss)
15 on armor (eth capace)
can reach good def, max dr, and 2 angelics. This is about the best set up i've been able to find with a headstriker / eth runmaster set up.... theoretically.
I managed to get enough IAS for a 4 Lo Runemaster with a 30IAS CoA, 30 IAS Ethereal Godly Wire Fleece of Self-Repair, 25 IAS IK Belt and Gloves, and 15 IAS SS. I could potentially use 20 IAS gloves and opt for another belt.
A setup for an HS that I've seen includes use of an eth Glad Bane, 30 IAS CoA, 15IAS SS, and 20 IAS gloves. That also leaves you open to Angelics and Hsarus.
There's definitely other options available, especially if you look into some of the more original gear.
inkanddagger
02-12-2004, 20:23
Never thought of using it on a pally, but I made a pretty decent knife based druid with that shield.
Never thought of using it on a pally, but I made a pretty decent knife based druid with that shield.
That would be the dexa-titan? with a CFKoQ?
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