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Hello. :scratch:
Im rather noob when it comes to 1.1. I tried giving pvp a chance, but being a melee lover i felt like 1.1 really ruined it. Blocklocking and leech practically removed, alot of the joy had gone. Still, ive decided to give it a second chance. To get back items of equal quality that i had in 1.09. with the help of a great friend.. In other words, if i succeed in aquiring some wealth - Im back.
WHat will my char be? Well how dare you ask... its a fury wolf ofc. Just like old times eh?
(i dont currently have the items, but this is what im hoping to end up with)
Weapon: Rare phase 250+ed, 40ias, foolsmod, 2 sock, regen/4 sock 230+gris
Armor: Eth. Levi zod
Shield: Exile.
Helm: 2 sock crown of ages/Guilliams
Gloves: Draculs grasp.
Boots: Gores ofc.
Amu: Highlords ofc.
Belt: String.
Rings: Stats/LL, perhaps one dualleecher.
Charms: dmg/life, dmg/fhr
Prebuff: Demonlimb, call of arms(if they use it) fleshrender/lidless, 10 skillers.
This is my bid for a 1.1 build, but like i said, much has changed since i was active. Opinions?
Forcefeedback
30-11-2004, 17:54
Welcome back! :clap:
I'll get right to the point.
Damage reduction cap is at 50% in 1.10.
Exile is a runeword that can be used in paladin only shields. Thus a stormshield(35%dr, blocking, str etc) would probably be better.
For an armor a chains of honor(resists) or stone(fhr) runeword might be better.
If you use crown of ages you can switch string for trang oul's girth(cbf, life). If you use guillaume's face or Jalal's mane, verdungo's hearty(fhr, +vita) cord might be better.
For rings you might be better off with dual ravens.
Wait for other opinions though, I'm no expert at PvP.
rings: either go dual ravens or get the angelic rings/amulets
amor: chais of honor/enigma/stone
ss + 15% dr verdungoes + ed/str gualliames
lifeleech seriously doent do anything so dont bother with it
heart of the oak may be better than a fleshrender because you can prebuff spirits
FF:
Okay that sucks about exile... This is for melee only, so resist isnt needed except vs elemental dmging foes.
Tor:
My build evolves around melee, thus i need the DR on levi.
As for both: I was hoping for exile to help me do lifetap, but seeing that i cant, im left with 5% from draculs. That sucks.
Still, i know how little leech works, but with enough dmg/lower life im convinced it can be useable..
no you dont
50% DR MAX
ss + verdungoes (15%)
thats 50%
frend? or foe!
30-11-2004, 20:57
hi bash_ dont be worried about 5% life tap from dracs the speed of fury with a fast weapon ensures lifetap triggers quite often :drool:
Tor: Oh i get it. I was still calculating for using exile.. why arent ppl using dmg jewels anymore?
FoF: But this is for pvp...
Forcefeedback
01-12-2004, 03:56
You probably will need resists in melee duels since so many melee builds in 1.10 do elemental/poison damage:
Fireclaw bear, Rabies wolf, Holyshock paladin, Charged strike amazon, Phoenix strike assasin, Enchant sorceress etc.
Some duelers consider lifetap an unfair advantage, so you might want to have bloodfists or something in your stash.
ed/max jewels are bugged IIRC so that only one of the properties work on them. str/max and max/max jewels should work still.
Oh yeah, forgot to mention angelic's, good thing Tor didn't. If you use both rings you will probably have to use trang oul's girth for cbf or put a cham in your Jalal's/Guillaume's/Cerebu's.
I agree with the resists. I would need charms for that i suppose, and chains of honor... as for jewels, i guess a 4 sock 120 dmg armor would be considered? or 160ed/40str?
what would i need CBF for?
Pitboss_2000
01-12-2004, 05:08
what would i need CBF for?
Because being chilled isn't going to help you much when dualing others? :D
7/4 fury is unaffected by cold, including hf.
electricblue
01-12-2004, 05:58
As far as I remember, holy freeze effects our fury speed.
unless you have a fool's sword I would advise you double angelics.
if you have fool's, go for highlord + 2 rings. for Physical melee, I would advise life rings here.
but again, I prefer 2h weapons unless who I duel is a wolf like me
As far as I remember, holy freeze effects our fury speed.
unless you have a fool's sword I would advise you double angelics.
if you have fool's, go for highlord + 2 rings. for Physical melee, I would advise life rings here.
but again, I prefer 2h weapons unless who I duel is a wolf like me
It didnt in 1.09, and i doubt it has changed. i have plans on going fools yes.. but also, im gonna use HoW as well as demonlimb enchant. Im betting on 45k ar...
2 handed weapons vs zealot, or fireclaw bear? ;)
Forcefeedback
01-12-2004, 06:16
I think even 4 frame fury is affected when chilled, otherwise cbf wouldn't be neccesary. I know cbf doesn't affect cast rate so windy's etc with enigma don't need it.
If I were you I'd consider getting Jalal's for duels against lower life opponents(crushing blow not as effective) since it will up your life and ar with it's +2 druid, +2 to shapeshifting and increase resists and fhr.
I think even 4 frame fury is affected when chilled, otherwise cbf wouldn't be neccesary. I know cbf doesn't affect cast rate so windy's etc with enigma don't need it.
If I were you I'd consider getting Jalal's for duels against lower life opponents(crushing blow not as effective) since it will up your life and ar with it's +2 druid, +2 to shapeshifting and increase resists and fhr.
It didnt in 1.09, can nay1 confirm if this has changed??
As for jalal, i rather have 15% DS on my guilliams. is it the ed or the max dmg on jewels that doesnt work??
Forcefeedback
01-12-2004, 07:02
the max on the jewel works
but the ed isnt added along with the max
so in total u get the ed added to your minimum dmg & only the max on the jewel added to your maximum dmg
if it works its better than ed/str but since it doesnt even a plain ed jewel adds more dmg than ed/max so i'd go with ed/str
Found this and it seems like the enhanced damage doesn't work on max damage.
I'm 90% sure you need cbf with 4 frame attack rating, but I'll do a little search and see if I can come up with someone's confirmation on this.
Found this and it seems like the enhanced damage doesn't work on max damage.
I'm 90% sure you need cbf with 4 frame attack rating, but I'll do a little search and see if I can come up with someone's confirmation on this.
so ed/str or max/max would be a considerable alternative?
as for fury, yes i will need confirmation. Im a 102% sure it didnt in 1.09, but things change ;)
electricblue
01-12-2004, 10:03
chilling in 1.1 doesn't change the attack speed for 4 frame fury, but I am not sure about hf.
Heh...that got me so much further :teeth:
HF plus multiple sources of cold dmg used to slow your attack and presumably still does. How many sources, I don't know.
They changed how blocking works, so you can probably skip the shael in the storm shield. If you ber'd it, you could use another belt, like trangs, because of 8 dr in CoH.
Good luck. Zealots are much stronger than they used to be. I had more luck going 2-handed with kb. Also, I think fury now inherited the old zeal bug. It seems to miss alot. :scratch:
HF plus multiple sources of cold dmg used to slow your attack and presumably still does. How many sources, I don't know.
They changed how blocking works, so you can probably skip the shael in the storm shield. If you ber'd it, you could use another belt, like trangs, because of 8 dr in CoH.
Good luck. Zealots are much stronger than they used to be. I had more luck going 2-handed with kb. Also, I think fury now inherited the old zeal bug. It seems to miss alot. :scratch:
Yes hf+cold used to slow it down. Im aware of the blocking, but that helps me more than them. Druids had the worst... and i wont be using CoH against melee, i think ill go ethereal arkains and a 4 sock 100 life 30 max jewels. 4 Ort/Ral armor for chargedstrikers/fireclawers.
Im determined to have a high dmg/high DS/High leech/High ar, so that leech will actually work. Ill have 34% leech, though i would wish for more.
As for the zealbug, that really sucks...
I honestly don´t get the leech thing, may be a new secret plan any of us know? ;)
Pitboss_2000
02-12-2004, 10:08
I honestly don´t get the leech thing, may be a new secret plan any of us know? ;)
What do you mean? What part don't you get? :)
dave:
Massive dmg, massive DS, high LL and minor chance to cast lifetap...
It could end up a total failure, still im determined to try. After all, i can just rebuild.
Mmmmm....
Lets say you deal 6k average fury damge, with 70%DS it turns into 10.2k. The pvp penalty is 1/6, you inflict 1.7k, since the other guy is to use 50%DR he takes 850 damage, leeching 34% of this returns to your red ball 289 life. Dont know if it worths to invest in leeching instead more OW, CB, AR, ...we´ll see.
Anyway, Mike, you can whisper me for testing ;) . I´m sure if there is a way to make fury wolves more viable in pvp, you are the one to discover the build ;).
fer
dave:
Massive dmg, massive DS, high LL and minor chance to cast lifetap...
It could end up a total failure, still im determined to try. After all, i can just rebuild.
Message me, and I'll give you the passwords to my accounts. :)
Message me, and I'll give you the passwords to my accounts. :)
Strid, I hope you play on Europe, dont wanna Mike moving to play overseas, I´m looking forward to peel his furry doggy :)
fer
Me plays Europe, dude! :D
Pitboss_2000
03-12-2004, 09:02
Mmmmm....
Lets say you deal 6k average fury damge, with 70%DS it turns into 10.2k. The pvp penalty is 1/6, you inflict 1.7k, since the other guy is to use 50%DR he takes 850 damage, leeching 34% of this returns to your red ball 289 life. Dont know if it worths to invest in leeching instead more OW, CB, AR, ...we´ll see.
Anyway, Mike, you can whisper me for testing ;) . I´m sure if there is a way to make fury wolves more viable in pvp, you are the one to discover the build ;).
fer
You only steal 289 life if you duel in Normal mode, in NM and Hell leeching gets cut in 1/2 and 2/3...
You only steal 289 life if you duel in Normal mode, in NM and Hell leeching gets cut in 1/2 and 2/3...
Yeah, forgot that!
Most pala vs pala games are in norm anyway.
dave: LOL u will have ur revenge... no doubt about it :)
Most pala vs pala games are in norm anyway.
dave: LOL u will have ur revenge... no doubt about it :)
Could be I disassemble my mague pala to build a vinditemp, just for the sake of the old times, when all my paladins used to die-a-go-go vs your furried friend. But be aware this time I will bring a bone on my pocket.
Btw, have you thought in a Rabies/Fury build? They are really strong in melee duels, and vs most of chars.
Fer
Could be I disassemble my mague pala to build a vinditemp, just for the sake of the old times, when all my paladins used to die-a-go-go vs your furried friend. But be aware this time I will bring a bone on my pocket.
Btw, have you thought in a Rabies/Fury build? They are really strong in melee duels, and vs most of chars.
Fer
Hehe dave... Indeed i am making fury/rabies, and thus far hes lvl 42. Storm and shaft are gone from my acc due to a trojan. Stupid idiots... thank god i have 10 now (thx strid)
Hmm. WOuld there be a way to incorporate geddon into this?
If im gonna max ww/lyc/fury/how/rabies thats gonna take to lvl 91. If im gonna get geddon ill need to be lvl 101^^
Ideas?
Hmm. WOuld there be a way to incorporate geddon into this?
If im gonna max ww/lyc/fury/how/rabies thats gonna take to lvl 91. If im gonna get geddon ill need to be lvl 101^^
Ideas?
Me myself have a rabies geddon wolf. Rabies damge depends if I use 6 shel pb, plage bear (not recommended), bramble and the like. Geddon damge is 6.2k, Im using 10 shap skillers tho. To get this damage, after maxing rabies all the skill poisnt are ingeddon and its synergies (I use carrion bug). If you cant max at least 2 synergies, it is worthless.
Mike, you play that druid in your current acc, *Bash- ?
Well we discussed it over bnet. Guys, help me out here. Is it possible to have fury, lyc/ww/how/rabies and lvl 1 geddon @lvl 99?
Well we discussed it over bnet. Guys, help me out here. Is it possible to have fury, lyc/ww/how/rabies and lvl 1 geddon @lvl 99?
I just thought of something. If i use stone, my geddon will have lvl 16 molten boulder synergy :>
no it wont
you need a poitn into mb to get geddon
I see. Oh well... vs lvl 3 HoW(and 7 misc. skills) and lvl 3 geddon+elm. shield. what would u prefer?
electricblue
05-12-2004, 14:38
how+lyc+ww+fury+rabies full
get grizzly and pump dire wolves for the rest. the summons are very nice if you wear bramble
how+lyc+ww+fury+rabies full
get grizzly and pump dire wolves for the rest. the summons are very nice if you wear bramble
I will use 5 wolves, so thats a no. As for bramble - well, id rather use 4 sock 100 life 30 max jeweled armor. Rabies is secondary..
But as for the armageddon, i will need lvl 99. Its 3 lvls of HoW (shoulda been WW but too late) vs lvl 3 geddon+lvl 3 cyc. armor
electricblue
06-12-2004, 07:38
grizzly is for the thorns aura, not for his dmg or added annoyance. each grizzly will take about 600 life of the opponent unless his life is eaten by poison etc.
grizzly is for the thorns aura, not for his dmg or added annoyance. each grizzly will take about 600 life of the opponent unless his life is eaten by poison etc.
Well i gotta say it does look interesting. I was hoping to get geddon, but then id have to use lvl 3 raven. After trying out wolves, i agree that theyre no longer any good.
lies
my wolf/darks old wolf kills in 1 hit almost any non barb character
lies
my wolf/darks old wolf kills in 1 hit almost any non barb character
I meant spirit wolves :)
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