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aragorn-18
22-11-2004, 09:06
i have a question,

i am planning on making a summon druid, but i need to know if that style of a druid is any good?????
so if he is that strong to deal with monsters in hell?

plz help me :buddies:

Forcefeedback
22-11-2004, 09:36
No, summon druid isn't particularily(sp) strong and needs good gear and charms(can be dealt with skill and patience) against monsters in hell.

Summons are better used as a side branch of a build IMO.

Beowulf
22-11-2004, 10:09
No, summon druid isn't particularily(sp) strong and needs good gear and charms(can be dealt with skill and patience) against monsters in hell.

Summons are better used as a side branch of a build IMO.
I have to completly disagree with you. I have an old lvl 99 huntermentalist and a current lvl 84 huntermentalist and both have no problem keeping up in hell.....both have even done the ancients and Baal alone. True they are a little dependent on gear to really make them work to get a high lvl bear but with a lvl 37 bear and HoW a might merc and decent fissure and volcano I have no trouble killing things.

Forcefeedback
22-11-2004, 10:31
That is the reason why I said that pure summons druid don't work particularly effectively = "Summons are better used as a side branch of a build IMO." At least that is what I meant.

One thing that pure summon druids lack for example is the ability to reliably dispose of physical immune monsters. Consentrated damage is also a problem.

Beowulf
22-11-2004, 10:39
That is the reason why I said that pure summons druid don't work particularly effectively = "Summons are better used as a side branch of a build IMO." At least that is what I meant.

One thing that pure summon druids lack for example is the ability to reliably dispose of physical immune monsters. Consentrated damage is also a problem.
I use it as my main branch with all +skill going to summons and the elemental tree is my secondary branch. The way I control physical immune monsters is by using an etheral lacerator in the switch. The amp removes pretty much all PI.

aragorn-18
22-11-2004, 10:53
thx for the response guys,

i was thinking on choosing a summon druid and also the tornado skill, is that a good option, or do you guys have a good guide for me?

thx already

Beowulf
22-11-2004, 11:15
thx for the response guys,

i was thinking on choosing a summon druid and also the tornado skill, is that a good option, or do you guys have a good guide for me?

thx already
Fenris_wulf's has the hunter guide which can be found at the top of this page. In the single player forum look for Lothric's guide which is about all kinds of summoner options and it very well done.

electricblue
22-11-2004, 12:07
full summoner is viable. read about poison creeper in my hybrid wolf guide.

Beowulf
22-11-2004, 12:18
full summoner is viable. read about poison creeper in my hybrid wolf guide.
True sorry about that totally forgot that ground breaking poison creeper research!!! I might even make one of them sooner or later.

Din moscha
22-11-2004, 13:58
I am thinking about maxing raven, grizzly and HoW. Later? dont know :P
Will be using buriza for physical immunes and more killing

Beowulf
22-11-2004, 17:00
I am thinking about maxing raven, grizzly and HoW. Later? dont know :P
Will be using buriza for physical immunes and more killing
Ravens not worth it IMO get creeper instead it will kill much faster and be much more usefull.

Absolutian
22-11-2004, 20:10
I am thinking about maxing raven, grizzly and HoW. Later? dont know :P
Will be using buriza for physical immunes and more killing

Is the buriza your char's primary weapon? Are you playing a hunter/summoner?

Skelly
24-11-2004, 16:34
One question about dru summons in PvP,

What is the damage penalty for them in PvP, is it like in .09 (1/2 of their dmg i think) or has it changed ?
I have done some funny PvP duels with my lvl 32 Grissly and he rox.The damage he can do in PvP is awesome and i know that but i just wanted to know about penalty.Tnx :)

Salo
27-11-2004, 19:12
Summons druids are great, with +skills they ramp up mega strong, my bear destroys everything in hell, HOW and Might, jeez, the furry guy kills hardcore.

inkanddagger
27-11-2004, 19:17
summoners can devestate everything pvm, as long as you have the gear for it.

I would suggest putting apoint into werebear, lycanthropy, and shcokwave then max:

dire woves, grizzly bear, HoW, poison creeper, rest into spirit wolves.

Beast wepon helps immensely, as it makes you a bigger tank, and makes your summons super fast and strong.

IMCL85
28-11-2004, 13:36
durid isn't an extreamly compare to nec lol 100+ summon thats just crazy but it still can solo hell with out much problem as long u have the right equitment. But if you ask me I would pretty much say you would have a hard time to keeping ur self alive againest those group of PI / Extrastrong/ Iron skin / Aura enchant better just run away lol specially Lister from throne. Hey by the way any one want a fun duel with a pure summon necro vs pure summon druid lol that wouldn't be a fun game. Al tho I'm sure that Nec will win 99% but oh well who care lets have fun any one?

dkay
28-11-2004, 14:24
a grizzly bear with 5k + life and 15k damage will definetely be nothing to laugh at. my summoner could solo hell alone. and yes. ive summoned a grizzly in a pack of lister and his gang that had extra fast extra strong mods on and he lived for a good 20 seconds. doubt one of your skeles can do that ;) (i was using HoW aura not oak too)

also i went the shock bear route and stunned everyone with a high level shock wave. worked perfectly. though took some time.

Beowulf
28-11-2004, 15:13
I have played a summon necro also and didn't like it as much as my summon druid. With the druid you just summon your bear etc and voila ready to kill while a summon necro has start killing alone or with his golem if he has one to build an army.

BFD
29-11-2004, 03:50
I'm currently playing a pure physical summoner druid. Tons of fun. A lacerator would definatly help though. I like being able to cast minions right on top of monsters, rather than wait for them to run up. But when I decide to run, I can run right into the middle and usually not get into trouble, but that's thanks to delirium on my head. Oh, and I find that there are places that spirit wolves kill faster than dire or bear, mostly before act 4 hell.

lextalionis
29-11-2004, 11:42
thx for the response guys,

i was thinking on choosing a summon druid and also the tornado skill, is that a good option, or do you guys have a good guide for me?

thx already

Tornado and Twister both do physical damage. Your summons (except poison creeper) all do physical damage. While the stuns you get from Tornado and Twister might help your summons, I think you'll want a skill to help with physical immunes.

lextalionis
29-11-2004, 11:45
summoners can devestate everything pvm, as long as you have the gear for it.

I would suggest putting apoint into werebear, lycanthropy, and shcokwave then max:

dire woves, grizzly bear, HoW, poison creeper, rest into spirit wolves.

Beast wepon helps immensely, as it makes you a bigger tank, and makes your summons super fast and strong.

I like this idea for the non-elementalists.

Does HoW increase Poison Creeper Damage?????

koda
29-11-2004, 15:54
I've got a pure summon druid, currently lvl52 and cruising through NM. Maxed creeper and dire wolves, will max grizzley and HoW. With +skills, the 5 ravens are fine, I wouldn't put more than 1 point into them. I'm currently using a witchwild and thinking of upgrading it.

Voice
29-11-2004, 16:07
No HoW doesnt effect pc damage since pc only deals poison damage not physical damage.

Beowulf
29-11-2004, 16:51
I've got a pure summon druid, currently lvl52 and cruising through NM. Maxed creeper and dire wolves, will max grizzley and HoW. With +skills, the 5 ravens are fine, I wouldn't put more than 1 point into them. I'm currently using a witchwild and thinking of upgrading it.
Beowulf tried to ww for a while and it is an interesting bow which is much better served upgrade which beowulf could not do since he does not play ladder.