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Do the +skills on items affect the lvl of 'Aura's when equiped'? For example do magefists raise the lvl of the Holy Fire granted by a HoJ weapon?
Do the +skills on items affect the lvl of 'Aura's when equiped'? For example do magefists raise the lvl of the Holy Fire granted by a HoJ weapon?
To my knowledge, no.
Hmm, that's surprising. I thought they did, but was unsure. Can anyone confirm this? Also, do putting points in the aura's synergies (ie points in Resist Fire for HoJ) affect the Aura, or do they also not affect it?
Andy2702
22-11-2004, 05:31
Im guessing tha tthey dont stack, and are jsut seperate.....so if u put on ur hoj with holy fire on yourself, the higher lvl aura will take over......
Just a guess :thanks:
sangfagel
22-11-2004, 05:44
Itīs correct. Auras from items arenīt affected by "+ to skills" stuff neither stack with other aura sources. If multiple souras of the same aura are active, the highest slvl aura takes over.
I think you guys misunderstood a bit. I mean that becuase Resist Fire is a synergy for Holy Fire, would putting points in Resist Fire aid the damage of the Holy Fire aura granted by a HoJ Phaseblade? I don't see any reason why it wouldn't, but seeing as though +skills gear doesn't affect the aura lvl, I though I'd just check up on it.
krischan
22-11-2004, 06:49
IIRC, a skill that you can use because of a bonus is affected by +skills, even if you haven't invested a skill point in it. All other abilities from items (Level xx aura, chance to cast..., charges) aren't affected by +skills.
For example, wearing a certain number of items of the TO set gives +18 to fireball to *anybody* (sorcs get only +3 btw), to non-sorcs wearing that set can cast fireballs. Items with bonuses to skills will enhance that furtherly.
If you invested skill points into synergies that will give a bonus to that skill, they will work, but it doesn't work the other way around - you have to invest real skill points for that. An exception is the so-called "Marrowwalk bug". Abilities will be synergized by skills in form of charges on an item if the character doesn't have invested skill points into that synergy.
Stormrider2112
22-11-2004, 16:29
Your aura would be boosted by Resist Fire's synergy, because Holy Fire does get the bonus. Same with charges. You use the skill with any and all boosts to damage from investing points in skills.
Necrochild313
22-11-2004, 16:37
I've recently had an odd experience with my tesladin who uses a doom zerker. If I came across a lite immune and wanted to use "holy freeze", I'd select the aura, but I'd now have neither doom's aura or my holy freeze aura. My holy freeze aura was 1 point (18 after +skills).
Anyone know why this is?
Good to hear about the synergies working.
Not to sound doubtful, but how sure are you guys that +skills don't affect the level of the aura granted by HoJ? Again not to sound skeptical, but this will definatly affect how I gear out my char. I can't see what's so different about "level 16 Holy Fire when equipped" to "+18 to Fireball". I just don't see why Blizzard would make it work for one and not the other. So how sure are you guys?
Singollo
23-11-2004, 09:15
a friend of mine has a pally with 20 in veg, 20 resist fore, 20 salvation, 10 cold resist, 10 lightresist, and 15 conviction, and has a hoj equiped. it seem too be a good build
a friend of mine has a pally with 20 in veg, 20 resist fore, 20 salvation, 10 cold resist, 10 lightresist, and 15 conviction, and has a hoj equiped. it seem too be a good build
That's exaclty my idea :), with conviction being lvl25 with items of course. I just need to know if +skills will definatly affect/not affect the level of the Holy Fire aura. It will make a big difference in the gear that I will use.
Singollo
23-11-2004, 21:56
That's exaclty my idea :), with conviction being lvl25 with items of course. I just need to know if +skills will definatly affect/not affect the level of the Holy Fire aura. It will make a big difference in the gear that I will use.
the +skills dont help but synergies do, when you have the synergies added, its adds about 1000 more dmg to the attack, and monsters near by take about 150dmg. so yeah its a good unique build and you dont see or hear of it much :thumbsup:
the +skills dont help but synergies do, when you have the synergies added, its adds about 1000 more dmg to the attack, and monsters near by take about 150dmg. so yeah its a good unique build and you dont see or hear of it much :thumbsup:
Now I'm really confused. If the plus skills don't affect the Holy Fire level, then how do the synergies add 1000 more dmg. A fully synergised level 16 Holy Fire does only 500 damage...
Singollo
23-11-2004, 23:55
Now I'm really confused. If the plus skills don't affect the Holy Fire level, then how do the synergies add 1000 more dmg. A fully synergised level 16 Holy Fire does only 500 damage...
i am factoring in the conviction sry i forgot to mention that :(
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