View Full Version : Traps and +%lightning dmg question
Ok, I have heard from a few people that items such as Lightning facet jewels and other %lightning add-ons do not work with the traps. Yet, from my own expierence I check it; I took off my shako and put on a griffon's eye helm, and my Lightning Sentry damage jumped a good 700 dmg. Now if I just saw from first hand expierence that Griff's helm added dmg to my traps, then why do people keep saying that %lightning does not affect traps? Are they just ignorant or what?
jordy666
21-11-2004, 15:44
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linky 1 (http://www.rpgforums.net/showthread.php?t=269488)
linky 2 (http://www.rpgforums.net/showthread.php?t=270541)
linky 3 (http://www.rpgforums.net/showthread.php?t=268640)
clicky 1 (http://www.rpgforums.net/showthread.php?t=261721&highlight=facets)
clicky 2 (http://www.rpgforums.net/showthread.php?t=251316&highlight=traps+facet)
ur the ignorant one
-jordy :king:
People say that %lightning skill dmg doesn't work with traps because..... it doesn't work. People just believe things to easy without testing itself.
Ok, so facets DO NOT work with traps .... thats gehy =/
Well, then battle.net is tricking me when my dmg flies up while using a socketed item with a ligh facet or % lightning in it? OMFG BLIZZARD HAXX!
But if this is infact true, why does blizzard leave the fake screen as it is? It sort of throws people off (like me) and itll infact waste people's time and items.
:scratch:
Ok, so facets DO NOT work with traps .... thats gehy =/
Well, then battle.net is tricking me when my dmg flies up while using a socketed item with a ligh facet or % lightning in it? OMFG BLIZZARD HAXX!
But if this is infact true, why does blizzard leave the fake screen as it is? It sort of throws people off (like me) and itll infact waste people's time and items.
:scratch:
No I see teh same, I tested it on my 73 hc trapper...faceted lightning ormus, an faceted bartucs on switch, I will tell you myself the damage is alot higher, with my ormus on, then viper, or leather armor..or my friends clean ormus..
same with bartucs against clean bartucs. Who knows X-x
TheOlcFaileas
22-11-2004, 00:02
No I see teh same, I tested it on my 73 hc trapper...faceted lightning ormus, an faceted bartucs on switch, I will tell you myself the damage is alot higher, with my ormus on, then viper, or leather armor..or my friends clean ormus..
same with bartucs against clean bartucs. Who knows X-x
this question is asked a million times a day, i should know, i asked once myself :lol: yes ur trap damage will read as more in the game, and everyone here is aware of that. but its just not true. my advice to you is to do wut i did: trade your griffons/ormus/facets you've collected and get trap stuff that does work. :thumbsup:
but its just not true. my advice to you is to do wut i did: trade your griffons/ormus/facets you've collected and get trap stuff that does work. :thumbsup:
...so....
the higher figures we see is prolly a glitch? Which I can believe.
TheOlcFaileas
22-11-2004, 00:19
...so....
the higher figures we see is prolly a glitch? Which I can believe.
yep, i replied to your thread btw tyler
this question is asked a million times a day, i should know, i asked once myself :lol: yes ur trap damage will read as more in the game, and everyone here is aware of that. but its just not true. my advice to you is to do wut i did: trade your griffons/ormus/facets you've collected and get trap stuff that does work. :thumbsup:
You can't use the lightning traps as measure tools to see if lightning facets and %lightning skill dmg works at all. The difference in min and max dmg makes some serious testing impossible.
And for the record , I did test it with WoF and I tell you once more , IT DOESN'T WORK. So for gods sake , don't give people bad advise to trade for stuff that doesn't do ****.
Myrakh-2
22-11-2004, 08:40
But if this is infact true, why does blizzard leave the fake screen as it is?
It is well known that the game displays a lot of incorrect information; as to why Blizzard does not fix these issues, noone knows. I tend to assume they just don't care.
Not fixing bugs is cheaper than fixing them, obviously.
Rant:
In theory this kind of bug is difficult to create; Blizzard seems to do a lot of quick&dirty hacking in their code (as is also shown by various other bugs).
Normally, the same code that calculates the damage when the trap fires (that's the damage info that gets attached to the bolt) would be used to calculate the damage to display to the user... as any fresh junior kiddy developer can tell you, this avoids unnecessary code duplication, and prevents bugs from accidentally making changes in only one place, or from insufficient communication between the person responsible for the trap code and the one responsible for the display code.
It's very simple actually. Facet effects show up because the character screen shows them as missiles, thus altered by +% dmg, but actually traps are classed as pets (grizzly, oak, skelly), so theire only affected by + skills, as it boosts their level. BTW this info is taken from the game files.
You can't use the lightning traps as measure tools to see if lightning facets and %lightning skill dmg works at all. The difference in min and max dmg makes some serious testing impossible.
And for the record , I did test it with WoF and I tell you once more , IT DOESN'T WORK. So for gods sake , don't give people bad advise to trade for stuff that doesn't do ****.same :D
i tested in single player with +100%/-100% facets :teeth: no added dmg, not even with +2000% in total, lit or fire :p
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