Wind Druid Dilemma [Archive] - Diablo 3 & Diablo 2 Forums

IN_FLAMES

21-11-2004, 09:29

My resists SUCK.

currently clvl 81. Patriarch Everdying is using..

Hoto
SS (chamed)
Shako for PvM and sheal Jalals for pvp
sandstorm trek
Maras
Verdungos (don't have an arach!)
2x sojs
trangs gloves.
CTA flail and sigons on switch.

resists are all in the 20's-40's, done all Anyas.. Should I swap the SS for a sanct? I'm clueless as of now-- don't feel like stocking up on 5res charms seems like a waste of space if the answer is somewhat closer..

Rauth

21-11-2004, 14:10

Erm. Try a wizspike if you Really want more res. Not sure what you are missing, since mine uses similar gear and has 30ish stacked Above 75. I do use some 11res scs though. I listed all my gear in the pvp forum in the hydra sorc thread. Compare yours to that and see what you are missing. Could just be the charms I dunno.

One thing you should do for sure is, ditch the cham in your ss for something more helpful unless you aren't using enigma.

LorveN

21-11-2004, 15:02

Hm, you never wrote what armor you wear. My suggestion would be a high-res vipermagi (CoH if you feel generous). Socket the viper with um/res jewel if you feel that you need even more resists.
Viper is a great choice, imo the best after enigma for windys, since it gives resists, fcr, skills etc. :thumbsup:
If you use enigma, do like Rauth said, fix a storm with um/diamond. teleport will end your needs for fast running anyway since thats the normal pain when frozen, and so will the frw-bonus on enigma... Skills are casted at the same speed even if frozen, so you wont really lose anything on being frozen.
Anyway, if you still feel resists are low, stack up on charms. :winner:

IN_FLAMES

21-11-2004, 19:19

Ah, I forgot to post that of course I do wear an Enigma.

Burnt_toasty

22-11-2004, 00:36

noticed that you dont really have anything for faster cast rate except the hoto.

Also the regen on mana. Imo, I would definitly swith that hoto out and use the Wizspike if you are also having these issues.

LostPhoenix

22-11-2004, 05:15

Um your SS and Shako, and get an anni. That would raise your resists by 47 - 57.

Voice

22-11-2004, 05:35

Andy2702

22-11-2004, 05:59

Rauth, I cant dind the thread right now, would you mind posting some facts about your windy that may give us windy lovers an idea? (I heard your windy was godly :D)

Your Gear?
Stats and skills?
Resistance?

Thnx again,
Andy

Uzziah

22-11-2004, 10:03

Unless you can get a realyy good ammy w/
+2 all or +3 ele
resist
10-20fcr
stats

+ a similar fcr ring i would really consider wiz like everyone said. I personally hting that HoTo is only viableif ALL of your other gear is superior. If you start missing a few aspects then wiz takes it over easily.

+3 elemental is a magical only prefix, so his best amulet would be +2 all skills, prismatic; or +2 elemental skills, prismatic. both of which are rare and hard to find.

I have a +2 elemental skills with +30 energy on my elemental druid. FCR would be another affix I would want on a amulet.

@ IN_FLAMES how much resistance does your charms give you? You should be able to pull about 15-20% resist fire/lightning/cold out of them alone. Also your a windy that means you have a big cyclone armor, its what in the 1000's so why are you that overartly worried about having high resist, anything positive in Hell mode is good for your build.

Rauth

22-11-2004, 10:12

My Windy:

lvl 92
4592 life with oak and bo
900ish mana with bo.
max block
100fc
5.5k nado
2.5k hurricane

Gear:

Shako(shaeled)
Ss(-req/29fireres/7fhr jewel)
arach
38 hoto/wizspike(res jewel)
28 maras
6/5/2 phase blade cta/lidless
enigma mageplate
magefists
Shadow dancers(main boots for style mostly)/treks(for rabies/psn nec)/spurs(for bm fire sorcys)
10fc, 13dex, 63 mana, 9resall ring.
10fc, 15dex, 61 mana, 29fire res, 19 psn res ring.
7 ele gcs with life(20-35) and 2 with fhr. Yes, I only use 9 ele gcs.
3x 5fhr/11 fire res scs
1x 5fhr/11 light res sc
1x 5fhr/5resall sc
1x 18life/11 light res sc
rest are 20life scs with minor mods.
20/20/05 anni

Stats are determined by your other gear so I won't bother listing them. Enough str for my enigma with anni, enough dex for max block and all the rest vita. Skills are the same for any windy. All res are maxed I think, with fire and light well stacked above 75 for facets/anya bug.

Not as godly as it could be, but I'm effective to the point where 40 life ele gcs wouldn't make much difference to me. I'll post an ideal windy for perfectionists in a bit. :)

IIDX

23-11-2004, 04:03

My resists SUCK.
Should I swap the SS for a sanct? I'm clueless as of now

the best thing you could do is to use SS on physical characters and Sanct on casters. If resist becomes your greatest factor, i prefer an um' SS over a cham' SS.

vizzerdrix666

25-11-2004, 01:05

Hello all

I'm currently bored with my foh pally (tired of being called a noob.) so thought i'd make a wind druid. First of all do you think i shoud go pure vita or max block with ss? Also, what is the dex req for max block with ss? Also, for res, would a silence be outta da question? Idk, i mean its got good res and skills but no fcr.

Vizz

Rauth

25-11-2004, 02:06

Max block is the way to go without a doubt. Dex req is 200ish at high levels. Just add all the dex points you need when you get ss, and every level after that. Wizspike is Much cheaper and Much better for windy than a silence. Hoto is the best weapon although I always keep wiz as backup for res stacking, and extra mana in long duels.

Read the windy guide in the sticky. It has everything you need. Have fun :)

Andy2702

25-11-2004, 08:22

Thnx a bunch Rauth for the detailed explanation of your windy!

Btw you have only one windy, correct?

Thnx again,
Andy

Rauth

25-11-2004, 14:26

I've made 4 so far. First was 93, second was 92, third was 92(my nl one currently) and then my new ladder one is 91. They all used/use similar gear.

Gotcha

25-11-2004, 16:21

[QUOTE=Rauth]Max block is the way to go without a doubt. Dex req is 200ish at high levels.

Rauth, have you ever tried a pure vita windy using ss, shako and enigma to reach the 50% PDR, sorta like a vita necro which I love. I am just curious if anyone has tried this build in general and what the total life diff would be with BO. I keep thinking about this build and I have not put any points into my new windy yet. It is tempting since it would be better against all caster characters and then for the melee the high life may keep you out of FHR animation in some cases yet if you get hit by good melee and go into animation or are smited you are pretty much dead anyway/block or not. I am just curious if you went all vita like my necro which has over 500 in vita would it be a viable build for PVP in anyone's opinion. I keep thinking about it on every ladder but always go block and seem to always notice that if you get hit by melee a lot you are going to be dead fast if tyou get into block animation???

Anyone, ideas, is it sorta a worthless idea????

Rauth

25-11-2004, 20:09

I have never personally tried a vita build, but my very very rich friend tried one(he also was used to a vita necro). He just got crushed by good barbs/wwsins/zealers. He had over 7k+ life with all 40life ele gcs if I remember right(perfectly geared block windy will have 6k+).

Going into block animation is MUCH better than going into fhr animation and taking damage. Also consider that druid fhr is Very slow. Not getting into it is a good thing ;)

I always assume you will be dueling good duelers, but in reality you can beat most duelers with crappy gear, and barely even trying. So, you Could make a vita build, and still beat most classes, but occasionally you will be crushed by a guy who you would have beaten if you had used block. On the other hand, I have never been crushed by anyone because I was missing 1000 life.

Keep this in mind. Druids get 2 life per vita, which translates to around 300 life if you go base dex. 300 life turns into around 1000 after oak and bo. Oak isn't really reliable so at most times its only a 600ish advantage over block windys. Also keep in mind, windys cast much slower than necros, and must get somewhat close to hit anyone. This means you will be hit by melee a Lot more than necros would.

Gotcha

25-11-2004, 22:12

Going into block animation is MUCH better than going into fhr animation and taking damage. Also consider that druid fhr is Very slow. Not getting into it is a good thing ;)

Keep this in mind. Druids get 2 life per vita, which translates to around 300 life if you go base dex. 300 life turns into around 1000 after oak and bo. Oak isn't really reliable so at most times its only a 600ish advantage over block windys. Also keep in mind, windys cast much slower than necros, and must get somewhat close to hit anyone. This means you will be hit by melee a Lot more than necros would.[/QUOTE]

True, and I was not even thinking of how slow the FHR animation was. I just keep thinking about a pure vita and if anyone had tried and you answered my question. Also my necro has BA which is so huge for a vita build. Something the druid does not have.

Thanks for the reply, guess I will make my 5th windy max block again. I can live with a 600 life diff. I thought it would be more then that negating oak but was to lazy to do the number crunching.

Thanks Rauth

G0su_Hellbolt

29-11-2004, 04:23

Hmm...
I always wondered if I should go max vita or max block... in the end I went for max block. 71% at lvl 90... :(

Eq:
Enigma Archon 1371
SS pdia
Arach
10Fcr/all res 14%+ minor mod ring
raven, will switch to bk ring for life and skill
Waterwalks 64life
Trang Gloves
3+ Ele Skill amu +10FCR
Hoto
Ondals on switch (too poor for Cta :cheesy)
Jalals shaeld
2*Ele skillers
No Anni... going to get one very soon :D

2k life with oak sage, and yes I know very weak, but so far I have only died twice in duel games and baal games added. Totals to about 4.5k life with my friend's barb bo, bo lvl 49 :flip:

*Gosu-Hellbolt

Voice

29-11-2004, 12:12

+3 elemental is a magical only prefix, so his best amulet would be +2 all skills, prismatic; or +2 elemental skills, prismatic. both of which are rare and hard to find.

I have a +2 elemental skills with +30 energy on my elemental druid. FCR would be another affix I would want on a amulet.

@ IN_FLAMES how much resistance does your charms give you? You should be able to pull about 15-20% resist fire/lightning/cold out of them alone. Also your a windy that means you have a big cyclone armor, its what in the 1000's so why are you that overartly worried about having high resist, anything positive in Hell mode is good for your build.

This is not true. Sorry for taking so long to reply but I been out of town. What I would consider a near perfect craft would be.

+3 ele skills
20 fcr
+30 dex
+30 all resist
+20 mana
+10% mana regen.

This ammy is possible because a crafted item can get 4 different affixes on that are obtainable on magical or rare items of that type. Since +3 ele is a magical prefix you can craft this ammy. I know a few people with similar ammys to this type, I also used to have a very similar ammy but it was rare so it was only +2/10 fcr, but had massive +str and prisamic.

Uzziah

29-11-2004, 12:26

This is not true. Sorry for taking so long to reply but I been out of town. What I would consider a near perfect craft would be.

+3 ele skills
20 fcr
+30 dex
+30 all resist [prismatic maxes at 20% resist all, chromatic can not be on a craft/rare, Uzziah]
+20 mana
+10% mana regen.

This ammy is possible because a crafted item can get 4 different affixes on that are obtainable on magical or rare items of that type. Since +3 ele is a magical prefix you can craft this ammy. I know a few people with similar ammys to this type, I also used to have a very similar ammy but it was rare so it was only +2/10 fcr, but had massive +str and prisamic.

My understanding of the crafting process is that the craft can have up to 4 added affixes up to 3 can be prefix and up to 3 can be suffix. (this is why you can be clvl >71 and still get 3 affixes other than the preset ones, it happens when 4 prefixes (or suffixes) roll). These affixes can be from the (magical/rare) prefix list the (magical only) list is excluded as the game treats a craft as a rare item. The +3 skill tree is an affixes that has the magical only condition and is therefore not possible on a craft or rare item. chromatic is also one of the magical only prefixes and therefore can not be formed on a rare or crafted item.