Help with Rabies

[BottledViolence]

Well its time for me to start a new char, after mastering my poison necro,
the nest thought in mind was a Psn Druid using Rabies

Id like to know waht the best possible skill/stat distribution and the best possible item setup is.

IF your really nice you can help me, and if youre pretty nice you can give me a good link if there are any.

thanks guys

[dkay]

http://www.rpgforums.net//showthread.php?t=127492

that guide right thurrrrrr

[BottledViolence]

Ok that has useful information, but not that specfic just for rabies, i just wanna know what the stat distributon should be,
I mean i know max black, but how many in STR if i use Bramble not enigma.
And do i use 6 shae phase blade/ SS, and then switch to Dweb/ Facet Monarch or other shield?
what about boots??
Cerebrus, or jalas?
Which Ammy, will i need alot of AR??
(im gonna use him for PVP)
I think ill max Rabies, Oak sage, lycanhropy (spelling), and what else. ggracias

[dkay]

Ok that has useful information, but not that specfic just for rabies, i just wanna know what the stat distributon should be,
I mean i know max black, but how many in STR if i use Bramble not enigma.
And do i use 6 shae phase blade/ SS, and then switch to Dweb/ Facet Monarch or other shield?
what about boots??
Cerebrus, or jalas?
Which Ammy, will i need alot of AR??
(im gonna use him for PVP)
I think ill max Rabies, Oak sage, lycanhropy (spelling), and what else. ggracias

for stat distributtion its simple as cake. add up all the plus skills you get from items. (like anny) then subtract it to the highest strengt hrequirement item. in your case stormshield. so lets say you ahve a 20 stat anny and boots that give 10 strength. add those two up and youll get 30. then you subtract it to the strength required for ss which is 156 so 156 - 30 = 126 bbase strength needed.

as for weapon its up to you. 6 shael pb is for maximum attack speed. someone choose to do plague baerer and stormsehild. on weapon switch have a 4 socket shield with 4 psn jewels or a head hunters glory with 3 psn jewels. and a deaths web. after you bite the guy run away press "w" then switch back. that swich is a lil secret that causes the enemies resist to lower according the the amount of - resist you have on weapon switch. (sorta like when zons used to shoot arrows, then switch to a slow giving item then switch back. when the arrows hit the target the mods on the weapon switch gets added to the attack) sorta confusing ? just tell me and ill explain it in simpler terms.

id go with jalahs. the ar bonus in cerebus wont raise your ar as much as you think. the fhr and ressit from jalahs is godly. unless your really want the open wounds which is good too. switch accordingly. against melee guys with heavy life use cerebus. for casters use jalahs

you wil ahve more than enoug har with a wolf if you plan to max the werewolf skill. if you still have ar troubles go with angelic set. (ammy and ring) but i dont think ive ever had ar troubles with mine.

id max oak, werewolf, rabies, psn creeper (if you dont plan on using the synergy bug, and lycan.

personally if you plan on taking this guy at a higher level, and you want a PURE rabies wolf and not a hybrid id max psn creeper. this way you can have an extra bugger in pk and also i ahve a theory that if you max psn creeper you can substitue the extra ring slot with something more benificial like a bul kathos wedding band which will prolly give you more damage. and life.

any more questions? :)

[BottledViolence]

Yea thanks alot man thats aalot of help,
SO basically the 6 sock PB is basically to swing fast enough that ull eventually hit them, and then run away and switch to DWEB and Psn shield.
Cool

ANd wont it be impossible duleing casters if i use bramble??
do yo think i should have enigma in my stash incase some sorc is gettin on my nerves and i want to get her??

or is there a way?

[-Ferro-]

For a pure rabies, youll have to make one bite and retreat, since more bites dont increases the poison damge, and it lasts for quite long time. If you can afford it, use a faceted perfect deaths along with 4 facets monarch, and another facet in jalals. You will rock with it, I mean it increases damge a lot. If you use teleport to retreat they will balme you a lot, since noone will ever catch you up. And vs high def chars, angelic ammy and ring si needed.

[BottledViolence]

So in general when i etner a Public game, should i be using bramble or enigma???
which do you perefer for this build
and was a right about the hit with Phase blade then run away and CLick W to switch for Psn Pwnage?

[thrice.net]

in a pub duel game i would consider using bramble for more psn dmg. you should also try rabie/fury druids :thumbsup:

[-Ferro-]

vs melle use bramble hands down. Vs casters, as you said, is goint to be hard to catch em up, tho it can be done without tele. I dont use enigma and stack a lot of frw; dodging and so it can be done, but is hard, what else I can say? Up to you. You can try with enigma first saving the strengh points so if change mind, use bramble. Really up to you. With bramble your rabies will rise in 7k-10k moreless, depending on its +%poison.

About the deaths web and facets on swich, the trick is, bite them, then retreat (run away like a chicken :) ), press "w" and keep web/facets shield for a short period, like 2-3 seconds; afterwards you can swich back to you current attack weapon/shiled. Doing this the rabies damage you inflict is calculted all time as if the opponent had the -%res all time long, and it last even if you bite for a second time BEFORE the first poison bite is over.

[BottledViolence]

so, SHould i use the 6 shael PB??

i got an idea from the link to maybee put an eth rune or 2 in it to negate the target defense.

What would you recmond for the original Bite weapon.

ANd what build is more enjoyable all around, a Pure Rabies druid, or a Rabies/Fury.

it may be out opinion but share your experiences

[BottledViolence]

So guys whats the deal on the weapon before i switch Dweb/facet shield.
SHould i just use plague bearer For max dmg?
I fear tho that when dueling opponents with Fast attack speed i wont be able to hit them fast enough to infect them wtih this. do yo uthink im right that a good strat would be with the phase blade?

[MithrandirX]

For my original bite weapon, I use a caddy with 3x ED/IAS jewels and a Lo rune. It is quite fast. Then I switch to a faceted death's web and a 4x facet monarch. I also prefer engima at all times, for the str and the big FRW bonus.

[dkay]

So guys whats the deal on the weapon before i switch Dweb/facet shield.
SHould i just use plague bearer For max dmg?
I fear tho that when dueling opponents with Fast attack speed i wont be able to hit them fast enough to infect them wtih this. do yo uthink im right that a good strat would be with the phase blade?

i used a 3 ranged robo zerker as my primary weapon. that is a 6 socket zerker axe with 1 shael and 5 40/15 jewels in it. i was a fury/rabies druid so my fury damage was about 3k (which is ok damage.. not fantastic) and my rabies bit pretty quick too. that weapon is old school and no one really makes them that much. now days its all about grizz caddy with 3 ed/ias jewels and a lo i beleive. this will give you a 4 frame fury and fast rabies bite. if you want to go hybrid i suggest you really look into the guide i recommended above. it pretty much covers everything. which build is more fun? hard to say. if you go fury rabies you 'll ahve to rely on the carrion ring bug. if you go pure rabies with the rest of your points you can sink it into fury but it wont be uber high level. still enough to get in those last shots imo.

against sorcs and necros you CAN use enigma but what i did (because i was too lazy to switch gears) i would play VERY defensive and run alot. when they get cocky and tele next to me thinking ill keep running. bite then run the other direction. wait 3 seconds. see:

________ slain by your name.

:O

[-Ferro-]

6 shael pb work much better in pvp by far. I have plage bearer (shael) on stash and it is very slow, you get killed before you can connect a single hit most of time. For pvm works better.

Robo zerker, gris caddy, ive tried em all and are slower too. 6 shael pb all time. About the build, it is up to you to make a pure rabies or a hybrid one, the rabies damage will be the same in all clases, the other options only depend in the dueling tactic/stile you fancy more. This are the different options:

-Pure rabies (or rabies fury): Rabies, carion ring bug, werewolf, lycantropy, fury. High life and high ar and a secondary melee attack. Use gris weapon to attack, (you will hit slower with rabies), and then finish with fury. Make sure you put ias enough on weapon to reach the max fury atack speed.

-Rabies/fireclaws: Rabies, carrion bug, max fire claws and then you can do 2 things (always 6 shael pb with this):
#1 Max fire storm and use stone armor, give lvl 16 moulten boulden charges, so you have almost 2 synergies for fire claws. The skillpoints left in lycanthopy (for more life).
#2 Max all 3 synergies of fire claws, more fire damage but less life (it is very effective if you dont like runing away, firclaws damge can be like 7k).

-Rabies/armageddon: Rabies, carrion bug, max armageddon and 2 synergies of it. This is the build i use in pvp, i do 6k armageddon damge, i bie and then run around with geddon on, they come to chase me and get hited for it. Very effective and fun to play.

-Rabies/Elementalist: Rabies, carrion bug. All elemental attacks you can guess. You can cast hurricane and cyclone armor in human shape, and then get wolf-ed, go poison them while you hit with hurricane as well. Cyclone gives you important resist vs sorcs, trappers, foh palies, you know. If you feel like, you can stand in human shape and cast tornados and the like. You will need a caster gear in one swich and the 6 shael pb on the other. Your tornado and hurricane will deal less damge duel to the lack of elemntal charms. Most people recommend 5 shape GC and 5 elemental.

[BottledViolence]

OK.
Well i think im going Pure rabies, and thinking about not using teh carrion bug because the Creeper might be a good help.
What are 10 SS gcs worth on non ladder. COuld i trade 1 Pnb GC for 10x shape Gcs?
ANd i donno about bramble or enigma still.
I wouldnt have to put much in STrength for a Enigma.
With Bramble my psn would be better, but more str and No tele ability.

EHh decisions decisions

[BodomSaint]

vs melle use bramble hands down. Vs casters, as you said, is goint to be hard to catch em up, tho it can be done without tele.

keep in mind you cannot teleport while shifted

[-Ferro-]

keep in mind you cannot teleport while shifted

Dammit good one, forgot to advice about that. Enigma will give you stengh bonus and faster run (and you are to need a lot to catch casters, trust me). So may be it helps you aut to decide about both choices.

[dkay]

if pure rabies. go pb if fur yraibes. go robo or cady.
ferro 5 frames is not slow for rabies.. all you need is 1 bite and ive NEVER had trouble biting wit h5 frames :O plus robo zerker is 3 range. pb is 2

[aznbboi16]

If fury/rabies I would suggest Gris caddy. 5 frame bite is not slow at all. That's still 5 bites/sec.

I myself would not recommend pure rabies. Just like any other single element dueler, Rabies can easily be countered with cleansing or stacking poison resist with 95 max resist. Then you're good as dead.
But if you do go pure rabies, use a 4 shael + 2 ar/ias jeweled pb instead of a 6 shael pb.

[dkay]

o ya hha azn i totally forgot bout the 2 jewels. >_< ya 4 shaels and 2 jewels ias/ar would be the best for PURE. since the extra 10 ias you get from 6 shaels is useless

[BottledViolence]

Well i think this is my setup
Jalas
Bramble
Ss/Phaseblade
Dweb/4 facet elite shield
Boots???? what should i try Treks? Or Nats for godly run speed?
Ammy Cats Eye? I was thiking cuz of run walk
Rings
this is where i have problems what do you thinik Carrion Bug or no?
Im pure rabies so ill probly have enough
I think ill Use creeper?
if i do its 1 Bk 1 Raven Frost
Verdungos Coil Belt
Shape Shift Gcs
Trangs Gloves

SOund good??
Coolio

iany last inputs on carrion or not would be nice

[BottledViolence]

Then for the boots i could get Better
SOme rares?? (you guys know which ones im tlaking about)

[dkay]

rares with fhr and 30% f/r and resist would be best.
again, if your going pure rabies then dont use carrion bug, if your going hydrid please do.
good luck with your build