I am looking for the best staff you can get with 2 sockets to use runeword leaf in. I am a hydra/fireball sorc. Obviously I want hydra and fireball, but whats the max number of bonus skills and how many +to skill can u get on a staff. Also can staffs generate with + to sorc skills?

Thanks,
JRyan :innocent:

What you would want to look for would be a 2 socket staff with +3 to hydra, +3 to fireball and +3 to fire mastery to make the leaf out of.

cool,

i didnt know u could get all of those without making it magical.

Thanks,
JRyan

cool,

i didnt know u could get all of those without making it magical.

Thanks,
JRyan
Class Specific types can have up to 3 skills with +3 on em... not just staff... orbs, scepters, shrunken heads, claws... and so on.

What you would want to look for would be a 2 socket staff with +3 to hydra, +3 to fireball and +3 to fire mastery to make the leaf out of.

Can that staff be shopped or do you need to find it?

Its 3 staffmods of up to +3 per skill. based on a set of random [100] rolls. the odds are stacked against the 3/3/3 staffmods so don't expect them even though they are possible. Your best bet to get 3/3/3 is to imbue at high clvl since clvl is added to the random when imbued.

You can only go down 2 tiers and up 1 teir from your base staffmod tier.

Thus 1-4, 2-5, 3-6 can be dropped fire ball is a tier 3 hydra is a tier 6 and fire mastery is a tier 6 you need a base tier of 5 for your staff. all staffs in Hell will be base tier 5. :thumbsup:

Staffmod tiers are based on ilvl.

@melianor quick answer no, long answer the fire mastery is a tier 6 staffmod thus you need a base tier of tier 5 which is ilvl 40+ IIRC (I have to check my guide in the SPF), since you can only shop upto ilvl 24, you won't be able to buy a high enough ilvl for fire mastery, the highest staffmod you can buy is skills in the 24 clvl range but they only have a 10% chance of showing up since they have to get the +1 staffmod tier to show up. IE you have to find such a staff.

I hope that helps, you can find such a staff but it will have to be found and will be hard to get the 2 sockets since the max socket will be higher on the staff you find it on. You have to use the socketing recipe, good luck.

Its 3 staffmods of up to +3 per skill. based on a set of random [100] rolls. the odds are stacked against the 3/3/3 staffmods so don't expect them even though they are possible. Your best bet to get 3/3/3 is to imbue at high clvl since clvl is added to the random when imbued.

You can only go down 2 tiers and up 1 teir from your base staffmod tier.

Thus 1-4, 2-5, 3-6 can be dropped fire ball is a tier 3 hydra is a tier 6 and fire mastery is a tier 6 you need a base tier of 5 for your staff. all staffs in Hell will be base tier 5. :thumbsup:

Staffmod tiers are based on ilvl.

@melianor quick answer no, long answer the fire mastery is a tier 6 staffmod thus you need a base tier of tier 5 which is ilvl 40+ IIRC (I have to check my guide in the SPF), since you can only shop upto ilvl 24, you won't be able to buy a high enough ilvl for fire mastery, the highest staffmod you can buy is skills in the 24 clvl range but they only have a 10% chance of showing up since they have to get the +1 staffmod tier to show up. IE you have to find such a staff.

I hope that helps, you can find such a staff but it will have to be found and will be hard to get the 2 sockets since the max socket will be higher on the staff you find it on. You have to use the socketing recipe, good luck.

Thx Uzziah, as usual very concise input. Well this sounds to me, as if its very very very unluckily to stumble upon such a staff....

Its 3 staffmods of up to +3 per skill. based on a set of random [100] rolls. the odds are stacked against the 3/3/3 staffmods so don't expect them even though they are possible. Your best bet to get 3/3/3 is to imbue at high clvl since clvl is added to the random when imbued.


But after the imbue you can't make leaf, right? The item will then be magical and won't support runewords (you can't imbue socketed items anyway). So the mods can be achieved but not the runeword... ?

yes after an imbue the item is a rare that can only have 2 sockets if it has the mechanics prefix. also since it has prefixes it can not have a runeword placed in it.

the staffmods are achievable in a white item but the chances are very small.

its a 9% chance of 3 mods 91-100 gives it 3 mods.

then its a 9% chance for each of those to get +3 91-100 gives +3

thats 0.09*0.09*0.09*0.09 = 0.00006561

then we factor in the chance of getting the +1 tier for fire mastery and hydra each so

0.09*0.09*0.09*0.09*0.10*0.10 = 0.0000006561

then the chance for the -2 tier for the fireball which is 10%

and then the 1/6 chance for any of the tier to land on the desired skills the fire mastery will be 1/5 since hydra would have already been picked (or vice versa)

so in total we have:

0.09*0.09*0.09*0.09*0.1*0.1*0.1*(1/6)*(1/6)*(1/5) = 3.645*10^-10

That's less then the chance of a Hell cow dropping a zod IIRC and even less considering that you have to have a staff drop to get it in the right item for runewording. IE 1 in 2,736,726,875 staves will drop with those mods, good luck.

like I said doable but not really, good luck getting that on a white item drop.

Getting 3/3/3 in any set is only a 0.09^4 = 0.00006561 chance which isn't too bad.

Thanks for all the info!

But I am considering instead rune word SILENCE.
With mf, 75 resist, and +3 all skills u cant go wrong.
And about ten times easier to find a good staff and not have to worry about finding the correct amount of sockets because its 6 soc runeword.
Or I considered Heart of the Oak runeword. 4 soc runeword.

So know I will be ok if i find my staff with 2,4,or 6 sockets.

Hurray!!!Hurray!!!hurray!!!

Thanks,
JRyan :innocent:

What you would want to look for would be a 2 socket staff with +3 to hydra, +3 to fireball and +3 to fire mastery to make the leaf out of.

:drool: D_R_O_O_L :drool:

- Dennis

Thx Uzziah, as usual very concise input. Well this sounds to me, as if its very very very unluckily to stumble upon such a staff....
Very very unlucky indeed, though remember... for all those "Memory Staff" searchers, ES being a lvl 24 skill it can be found at in Act 2 Norm on Drognan... just a little info I think will save people lots of time/funds. :thumbsup:

i did not know ES could be found from drogan...i did all those nm cows for nothing...o.O, off to drogan then! :O thanks sartok

actually sartok, are u sure? the staffs that drogan sells are ilvl 20...so how can a lvl 24 skill spawn on it?

I haven't shopped myself... but I have seen many staffs with +3 to lvl 24 skills on him... sadly never ES! Grrr... plus, a wise man once told me this... maybe I'll go shopping a little, save you the trouble of proving me wrong! Haha.

My enchantress found a +3 to enchant +3 to ES battle staff with 4 sockets. Its a memory staff now. :thumbsup:

Thanks for all the info!

But I am considering instead rune word SILENCE.
With mf, 75 resist, and +3 all skills u cant go wrong.
And about ten times easier to find a good staff and not have to worry about finding the correct amount of sockets because its 6 soc runeword.
Or I considered Heart of the Oak runeword. 4 soc runeword.

So know I will be ok if i find my staff with 2,4,or 6 sockets.

Hurray!!!Hurray!!!hurray!!!

Thanks,
JRyan :innocent:

If that was +3 skills we all would be happy ;)
Silence is +2 skills only. Also it does not have ANY FCR or other useful Sorceress mods, unless you think of going melee?

You will get better mods by using Wizard Spike Lidless for a Sorceress. Silence is a total melee weapon :scratch:

My enchantress found a +3 to enchant +3 to ES battle staff with 4 sockets. Its a memory staff now. :thumbsup:

May i ask where you found it?

May i also add that i hate you? :hanky:

If that was +3 skills we all would be happy ;)
Silence is +2 skills only. Also it does not have ANY FCR or other useful Sorceress mods, unless you think of going melee?

You will get better mods by using Wizard Spike Lidless for a Sorceress. Silence is a total melee weapon
Archon Staff
Silence
249 to 297 (273 Avg)
base speed= 20 :cheesy:
200% Enhanced Damage
+75% Damage To Undead
Requirements -20%
20% Increased Attack Speed
+50 To Attack Rating Against Undead
+3 fire mastery
+3 chilling armor
+3 enchant
+2 To All Skills
All Resistances +75
20% Faster Hit Recovery
11% Mana Stolen Per Hit
Hit Causes Monster To Flee 25%
Hit Blinds Target +33
+2 To Mana After Each Kill
30% Better Chance Of Getting Magic Items

not too shabby :D

-jordy :king:

Archon Staff
Silence
249 to 297 (273 Avg)
base speed= 20 :cheesy:
200% Enhanced Damage
+75% Damage To Undead
Requirements -20%
20% Increased Attack Speed
+50 To Attack Rating Against Undead
+3 fire mastery
+3 chilling armor
+3 enchant
+2 To All Skills
All Resistances +75
20% Faster Hit Recovery
11% Mana Stolen Per Hit
Hit Causes Monster To Flee 25%
Hit Blinds Target +33
+2 To Mana After Each Kill
30% Better Chance Of Getting Magic Items

not too shabby :D


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Pretty expensive Enchant staff you have there :D Maybe i should not take everyones comment TOO seriously :lol:

May i ask where you found it?

May i also add that i hate you? :hanky:

Nightmare cows. Played a few pubby games and wasn't really looking for any thing special and something just said.... Pick this up. So I did.

Nightmare cows. Played a few pubby games and wasn't really looking for any thing special and something just said.... Pick this up. So I did.

Hmm, cows here i come :) Cows is actually still a nice source for any kind of normal sockted items :thumbsup:

Hmm, cows here i come :) Cows is actually still a nice source for any kind of normal sockted items :thumbsup:

i've been NM cowing for ages, i almost never see a staff drop :'(

I haven't shopped myself... but I have seen many staffs with +3 to lvl 24 skills on him... sadly never ES! Grrr... plus, a wise man once told me this... maybe I'll go shopping a little, save you the trouble of proving me wrong! Haha.
If you buy it from Drognan, the staff cannot have 4 sockets

Hmm, cows here i come :) Cows is actually still a nice source for any kind of normal sockted items :thumbsup:

Put your mf to 0 and go do hell cows. LOTS of socket items.
:D I found a 3 soc 500< def dusks / archon that way.

- Dennis

well for those who arnt going to be getting archons for a while>>>

wouldnt occy be an ok wep or does it jus plain suck now a days

well for those who arnt going to be getting archons for a while>>>

wouldnt occy be an ok wep or does it jus plain suck now a days

Occys fine! It's just that there are couple other weaps for sorcs that are much better than occy, and that lil 25% chance to cast lvl 1 teleport when struck annoys the hell out of basically everyone...

Could be extremely useful in pks though when stunned by smite or mindblast.

- Dennis :winner:

Hi all, I was wondering if from what I read, this sounds like the best set up on an orb sorc using fireball?

Orb (magical)

+3 fireball
+3 mastery
+3 fire skills

I can see as Uzziah said this is very rare indeed but it is actually possible right ?
Would a +2 mastery be more commen ?

Many thanks in advance, Xaulior.

Occy is still a very good weapon.... +3 skills, etc. I used a faceted one for my blizz sorc, and love it (would prefer HOTO or Good Fathom, but too poor :p)

:
+3 To Sorceress Skill Levels
+5 To Mana After Each Kill
All Resistances +20
25% Chance To Cast Level 1 Teleport When Struck
30% Faster Cast Rate
+20 To Vitality
+20 To Energy
+20% Enhanced Defense
50% Better Chance Of Getting Magic Items

That is about all you can want... FCR, MF, VIT, Res, skills, and you can usually get it for pul (or less, if lucky)
Socketed with a nice jewel (RES, other stuff, facets, etc.) it can be really nice for budget sorcs (budget = doesn't have 2-4 High runes on mules :p)

Hi all, I was wondering if from what I read, this sounds like the best set up on an orb sorc using fireball?

Orb (magical)

+3 fireball
+3 mastery
+3 fire skills

I can see as Uzziah said this is very rare indeed but it is actually possible right ?
Would a +2 mastery be more commen ?

Many thanks in advance, Xaulior.

Sure thats a tier 3 and a tier 6 both can drop together and both have a 10% chance of getting shifted to the appropriate tier.

You always have a better chance at +2 instead of +3 for a staffmod I don't remember the numbers exactly but is something like 60% +1, 30% +2, and 10% +3. The +X is not dependant on skill, tier, ilvl or anything its a completely random chance. The only time where clvl would influence the +X would be with an imbue where the clvl is added to the random number to get the adjusted number. A clvl 99 imbue will "ALWAYS"(I use this term carefully as I have never had a clvl 99 character to prove this with) result in 3/3/3 staffmods.

Back to the Memory Staff....
Where is the best place to get 4soc 3ES staff? or staff 3ES capable of having 4 socs?

Lots of staves, wands, and orbs drop in cows. They can rarely drop from the weapon stands that you find in Tower, Durance etc.