View Full Version : WW or Zerk for lvl 53 pvpbarb!?
Hi all
I recently found an eth cruel balrog blade (390 1hand) and Larzuk was kind enough to give me 2 sockets. I also have atod, 4s +98 life armor and lots of ed/str jewels AND a lvl 53 baba with hundreds of unsaved stats/skill points.
Clearly whirling is buggy in 1.10. But if I use ed/str jewels in every socket, is it possible to actually one-ww kill another 53 baba? Or should I go with zerk?
Another alternative would be conc/ww with high def. I have 2.8k eth stone and some other goodies.
Any input is highly appreciated.
Well, Zerk is more "standard", and obviously does more dmg in one big hit.
I would say WW alone is better than WW//Conc, because to make Concentrate shine, you're right, stone armor is probably the best, meaning you lose out on damage and life, as well as spreading your skills out a bit more.
So, In my mind, its WW vs Zerk.
I would say berserk is the way to go, because with all the chickeners out there, WW probably wont get many kills, simply because chickenhack will save your opponent. In addition, 53 barbs are pretty durable, and ww would eat the durability pretty quickly, so I would vote again for Zerk.
So yeah, I say zerk, more dmg=chickenhackers ears, eth cruel, zerk=longer weapon life.
Good luck!
-Matt
Sec put together a 58 babo long ago doing very well with mostly Conc/Zerk but IIRC Kime has or had (not up to date) a 50ish ww babo with a sexy eth rare ias legend i found or picked up i cant remember. Ask him.
Cleglaw_Himself
12-11-2004, 00:20
Hi all
I recently found an eth cruel balrog blade (390 1hand) and Larzuk was kind enough to give me 2 sockets.
Wow! I choose zerk also, mainly for its hidden increased % chance to kill chickenhackers. With zerk, that sword will last a long time.
I take it you are on europe?, most 53 barbs are zerkers, and a high % of them wont even duel a ww'er.
I would say WW, mainly because i am sick of seeing everyone claiming to be the best lvl 53, and then dont have a clue about what to do when facing a ww'er.
but then again, many of them will leave after the first ww and refuse to duel anymore.
bottom line is you will win more duels with ww, but get more kills with zerk. atleast thats my prediction
Wow thx alot for the inputs, much appreciated. I forgot to tell I got (buggy?) 51/51 durability so it's probably a bigger chance for me to break then the sword.
I think I'll go with ww and switch arreats with guillame's for the extra cb/ds. Then I can use my own BO and put the remaining points in mastery.
I'll give you an update later.
I highly reccomend staying with the Arreats....
40 stats, skills, defense, TONS of bonuses...
Guilliames, FANTASTIC helm for mid level duelers, EXCEPT (IMO) barbs who can use arreats.
The crushing blow is nice, but you will be doing huge damage as is, IMO, crushing blow is more suited for lower dmg, faster attacking builds, it would help, but not enough to warrant the loss of arreats.
Deadly strike: More helpful than CB, but if you're doing WW anyways, your gore riders and mastry's crit strike should be enough... I mean, more is better, but again, I feel the bonus's arreats gives outweigh both the CB and DS found on Guilliames. Thats just my opinion, I'm sure arguments can be made both ways, but I dont think its likely to change, I guess it's just personal prefrence.
-Matt
I highly reccomend staying with the Arreats....
40 stats, skills, defense, TONS of bonuses...
Guilliames, FANTASTIC helm for mid level duelers, EXCEPT (IMO) barbs who can use arreats.
-Matt
Hmm, that's a good point. I'll probably use arreat then^^
Cleglaw_Himself
12-11-2004, 01:00
Wow thx alot for the inputs, much appreciated. I forgot to tell I got (buggy?) 51/51 durability so it's probably a bigger chance for me to break then the sword.
I think I'll go with ww and switch arreats with guillame's for the extra cb/ds. Then I can use my own BO and put the remaining points in mastery.
I'll give you an update later.
Nice high dura!
What are you going to socket in the sword if ww?
Definitely give updates plz!
stevethatsmyname
12-11-2004, 03:16
well to hit the last BP you need 35 ias on the sword so.... shael + some jewel with ias (preferably ed/ias if you can get your hands on it)
although, if youre sticking with zerk........your might wanna go pure ED
my vote is for arreat's over guillame's as well.......cant say no to 20 str/dex, and the skills will help boost your BO by 2, mastery by 2, and +4 to zerk.....which makes a pretty big difference........and it just looks so much better on a barb!
Ok my barb is finally done, thanks to some quick trades this evening. He's sporting 3.6k ww dmg with 3.6k life. The charms are average though, only sharp charms and small vita's.
I socketed the balrog blade with a shael and 29% ed /ias jewel (4401hand).
I'll try to get some duels tomorrow and we'll see how he's doing.
Cleglaw_Himself
13-11-2004, 03:21
Looks invincible with those dmg/life stats!
3.6k ww is impressive. Not many will like to be hit by that.
The good thing for you is that everyone will expect a zerker, while u ww their ear.
Awesome stats... good job Hakka.
wow........impressive.....a botd (not taking into effect other sources of damage like charms and ed jewels) would do roughly around that dmg.......to match that power is pretty awesome......congrats to you......may you collect many ears on your journey!
That durability is result of failed Unique or Set item, which occurs if monster that dropped them was too low lv to spawn unique or set item that game had rolled.
wangboBW
14-11-2004, 00:21
tell us the stories of the ears!!!!!
PhatTrumpet
14-11-2004, 05:36
That durability is result of failed Unique or Set item, which occurs if monster that dropped them was too low lv to spawn unique or set item that game had rolled.
Just to clarify... significantly increased durability on a magic item means a failed set item, while significantly increased durability on a rare item means a failed unique item.
So in this case, it was a failed set Balrog Blade.
Just to clarify... significantly increased durability on a magic item means a failed set item, while significantly increased durability on a rare item means a failed unique item.
So in this case, it was a failed set Balrog Blade.
i think its a fail flamebellow there isn't any set balrog blades is there?
i think its a fail flamebellow there isn't any set balrog blades is there?
Nope, no set balrog blades, that might be why it failed :surprise:
go and butcher someone now m8 :D
Just challenged a lvl 65 barb in "low lvl duelz" and after a bit of sparring he called me noob for using ww. I then asked him why and he told me he was zerking and couldn't hit me, which actually was true^^. I got him to half life in one whirl but that was it. I think I need a sharper blade....
Ok another duel, this time vs a lvl 66 fury druid. We went private and I made him chicken twice! I think he got to 1 hp then exited due to shapeshift, right?^^
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