how much ar does your ww sin have?

[dkay]

i am in the process of making one and i was wondering how some people hit high ar even without demon limb. do you guys use 3/20/20s or something? i hear that 12k is hard to achieve.. how do u guys hit 20k :O

[Hardcore_Virus]

With angelic i get 12k without demon limb

[TheOlcFaileas]

With angelic i get 12k without demon limb

yea angelic, which I only became aware of recently, thanks to this board :thumbsup:

[GSXRider]

I get 6200 without angelics and dont even need them 90% of the time. only for high def barbs and pallys,

[Zangeif]

When I wear my AR gear I hit 22k

Angelics, cruel/fools claw, AR% on char level circlet.

[dkay]

ahaha nice

another question. what armor is realy better? enigma or nats because with enigma i can get LOTS of life. and nats has that very high requirement..

[Speederländer]

When I wear my AR gear I hit 22k

Angelics, cruel/fools claw, AR% on char level circlet.

That AR % only acts like the AR boost from a skill. The boost from AR % items tends not to be that big a deal. That claw probably helps far more than the circlet.


Also, a general note. You CAN put some points in dex. If you are doing a build that can wear a shield (with max block) or go dual claw depending on the situation, you have very nice AR without having to wear angelics. But it all depends on what you want to accomplish.

[dkay]

i want to use claw shield but people denounce it somewhat.
but against barbs and pallys i think u need as much block as possible. would it be effective to use enigma to save stats that would go into strength and shove it into dex so i can use shields against melee and duel against casters?

[Dahmer]

i would use 2 claws & claw block :)
if u got that u can block anything :D (atleast i think so)
lower odds @ blocking melee/ranged but being able to block everything if much more useful

[dkay]

i would use 2 claws & claw block :)
if u got that u can block anything :D (atleast i think so)
lower odds @ blocking melee/ranged but being able to block everything if much more useful

well i was thinking that i can invest more point dex so ill ahve max block with stormshield only against barbs and pallys and fury druids
against casters id use duel claw of course.
but i think if i am going to take the claw shield route then im going to need engma. so i guess my question is is enigma good for wwsins :P

[Zangeif]

2 more advantages to dual claw:

You don't need to put any points into dex except to use your claws. That means higher life.

You get more attacks per whirl with 2 claws.

BTW, I know that AR% on char level doesn't double my total AR, that would be insane. It does add a good amount however.

[dkay]

2 more advantages to dual claw:

You don't need to put any points into dex except to use your claws. That means higher life.

You get more attacks per whirl with 2 claws.

BTW, I know that AR% on char level doesn't double my total AR, that would be insane. It does add a good amount however.

ya but with engima on i can just transfer the points i would put into strength originally and put them into dex instead right?

[Zangeif]

Or, option #3:

Wear enigma AND go dual claw. Then you get even more vit.

Trust me, this is the way to go.

[dkay]

haha ya ive actually done this.
currently have 55 strength base and 100 dex base and im doing fine with enigma. lots of life imo. i ahve about 8k ar for ww which is decent. this is with frost. about 600 life ( base vtial.. still have 205 stats sitting)

last question (i hope) why gores? wouldnt war travs be a better option since wwsins already have enough openwounds and deadly strike?

[ilkori]

That AR % only acts like the AR boost from a skill. The boost from AR % items tends not to be that big a deal. That claw probably helps far more than the circlet.


Also, a general note. You CAN put some points in dex. If you are doing a build that can wear a shield (with max block) or go dual claw depending on the situation, you have very nice AR without having to wear angelics. But it all depends on what you want to accomplish.
1% per clvl does make a difference. That's like another 10 levels in Claw Mastery as far as AR goes.