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Full_Circle
11-11-2004, 04:36
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First thought when I found it was Blade Fury, but then I noticed the level...

Is the damage enough to compete with the usual lv 45ish weapons, though?

Cleglaw_Himself
11-11-2004, 04:46
I like the name of it! - Pain Splitter

I've always been a fan of axes.

Nice low req's on it too.

Lvl 43 'passion' runeword can get more slightly more max dmg than that I believe. Not sure on min.

stevethatsmyname
11-11-2004, 04:57
it would be pretty good for a cheapie level 45 barb...

Just gather some of those mid uniques and make a zerker! (or conc barb depends on your preference)

Full_Circle
11-11-2004, 07:20
it would be pretty good for a cheapie level 45 barb...

Just gather some of those mid uniques and make a zerker! (or conc barb depends on your preference)

Ok, I'm completely new at this, but... assuming I decide to go this road, how far off am I on a "really cheap" build...

Pain Splitter

Shield- AToB? (Have an AToD, but not going to waste it on my first pvp attempt over level 15)

Arreats (have a 3%) or GFace?

3 Socket / Life Armor

Rings/Ammy- Angelics I assume

Belt- uh... String or a +100 life belt? or Deaths? can I get CBF elsewhere? Maybe IK?

Gloves- something with IAS... IK if I have another piece

Boots- am I better off going to 47 for Gores? otherwise is Sanders my best bet? IK, I suppose, if I need a 2nd piece to go with the gloves

Thanks

AzaZaz
11-11-2004, 07:24
Ok, I'm completely new at this, but... assuming I decide to go this road, how far off am I on a "really cheap" build...

Pain Splitter

Shield- AToB? (Have an AToD, but not going to waste it on my first pvp attempt over level 15)

Arreats (have a 3%) or GFace?

3 Socket / Life Armor

Rings/Ammy- Angelics I assume

Belt- uh... String or a +100 life belt? or Deaths? can I get CBF elsewhere? Maybe IK?

Gloves- something with IAS... IK if I have another piece

Boots- am I better off going to 47 for Gores? otherwise is Sanders my best bet? IK, I suppose, if I need a 2nd piece to go with the gloves

Thanks


don't think making a barb to use a 13 durability axe is really purposeful....put together a fury druid...use the same sort of gear you'd use for the barb it'll do....nice axe btw, req's are key

Full_Circle
11-11-2004, 07:35
don't think making a barb to use a 13 durability axe is really purposeful....put together a fury druid...use the same sort of gear you'd use for the barb it'll do....nice axe btw, req's are key

Uh... won't fury eat up the durability even faster than zerk? :scratch:

Cleglaw_Himself
11-11-2004, 08:37
Stick with zerk imo.

13 durability is heaps for the life of a dueler!

I'd think about going to 47 for Gore's.

Depends on how cheap is your cheap.

Rings - I would try to get at least 1 ravenfrost if possible.
At 45, dwarf and raven become available.

If you go to 47 for gores, I'd use Arreat's - if stick at 45, perhaps Guillaumes - tough call.

Belt, Gloves = IK

You get your CBF from the ravenfrost ring.

Then go and check breakpoints to see ias req's.

Good thing about that axe is that you'll have a lot of spare points into vitality which is always a good thing!

stevethatsmyname
11-11-2004, 09:25
yeah heres my 2 cents as for gear selection (i was too lazy to put it down before)

this is economy build:
IK glove/belt + (war travs or Waterwalks) OR IK glove/boots + string of ears. I recommend IK g/b and string.
Helm: Arreats is the best choice (socket: ias jewel)
Angelic ring/amulet. 1 raven frost.
Shield: Moser's blessed circle with 2x ias jewels OR tower shield of deflecting 2x ias jewels (larzuk socket). 1 extra socket aint worth lowered block speed or block chance.
Armor: Shaftstop with a +max damage jewel.

That gives you 25+45 = 70 ias (enough for 11 frame berzerk) 45% PDR if you go string, max block, and decent berzerk damage i think

Good luck with this =)

You could also substitute lance guard in as a shield (for the deadly strike) but i dont really recommend it. Up to you though. Personally i prefer shields of deflecting :thumbsup:

PhatTrumpet
11-11-2004, 16:16
That gives you 25+45 = 70 ias (enough for 11 frame berzerk) 45% PDR if you go string, max block, and decent berzerk damage i think
My inital reaction to the original post was, "no way, too slow," and I think steve's statement says it all. 70%ias just for an 11-frame attack is not all that great.

Just for reference, it'd take 105%ias to hit 10 frames and 174%ias to hit 9 frames, which is as fast as you can hit with Berzerk.

Damage and speed are hard to come by all on the same weapon, so this still might be worth a shot. You will be completely eaten up by fast hitters though.

stevethatsmyname
11-11-2004, 23:25
for a cheap-thrills Duel barb, i dont think 11 frame is too bad...

I spent 1/2 my time at 11 frame and 1/2 my time at 10 frame on my last zerker... I never actually hit 9 frame zerk. I think 11 frame should work.... good enough for government work