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MjolnirY
09-11-2004, 16:26
I wondered myself how some1 can very rapidly char uplvl up to lvl75 or more ( like lvl up service ) even without skill's and points?

krucker13
09-11-2004, 16:38
1-15 or 17 you will want to do trist runs. After that cows or tomb runs until 24. ANciets then baals until upper 40's. Cruz thru mare. Get to mare runs when your lvl 51(i think) then do those till your 75. Hardest part of this is 17-24. Good luck and keep truckin!
-krucker-

tonavin
09-11-2004, 18:31
If you just have one friend with a high lvl character (80+ is a good number), then just ask them for an hour or two of their time to help you out with the guideline krucker just gave.

MjolnirY
09-11-2004, 18:31
1-15 or 17 you will want to do trist runs. After that cows or tomb runs until 24. ANciets then baals until upper 40's. Cruz thru mare. Get to mare runs when your lvl 51(i think) then do those till your 75. Hardest part of this is 17-24. Good luck and keep truckin!
-krucker-

that's right the lvl just to 25 is the hardest, but what you mean with trist runs?

Still wondering how the do this without skill point or something...

Hurrican_Andy
09-11-2004, 18:50
the 1-15 is easy to get but from 15-20 suks, u shouldnt start cows till 20 though b/c thats when u start to get really good xp for them

Elu's Might
09-11-2004, 20:26
At 12 end Tristram Normal.
At 20 end Sewer Runs normal.
At 24 end Cows normal.
At 45 end Normal Baal.
At 76 end Nightmare Baal.
At 99 end Hell Baal. No wait, you won't get there anyway. Sorry...

MjolnirY
09-11-2004, 20:40
understand it but I see at forum that plp giving lvl service on 1 day the give a lvl 75 even without skill or great part of stats.

How you can in 12 hours ex. a lvl 75? that my big question.

Awaiting-Death
09-11-2004, 20:59
My recipe:

1-10 a1 anything, just go thru the first few quests with 8 peeps
--
10-15 norm 8 peep countess runs (kill all and only the uniques/minions. 1 to 2 lvls per run) do these by urself, just join a game with random 8 people
--
15-20 norm 8 peep andariel runs (kill all and only the uniques/minions. 1 to 2 lvls per run) do these by urself, just join a game with random 8 people
--
20-24 norm 8 peep cow runs (get a high lvl friend to help you here)

- takes from 30 mins to 1 hour to get to lvl 20
- takes 15 mins to get to lvl 24

Get rushed (10 mins)

25-40 norm 8 peep baal runs (1 lvl per run)
- takes 15 runs, at 5 mins per run, that takes 1 hour 25 mins

Get rushed (10 mins)

40-50 nm 8 peep baal runs (2 lvls per run)
- takes 5 runs, at 5 mins per run: total 25 mins

50-70 nm 8 peep baal runs (1 lvl per run)
- takes 20 runs, at 5 mins per run: total 1 hour 40 mins

If you can get hell rushed (20 mins):
70-76 hell 8 peep baal runs (2 lvls per run)
- takes 3 runs, at 10 mins per run: total 30 mins
76-80 hell 8 peep baal runs (1 lvl per run)
- takes 4 runs, at 10 mins per run: total 40 mins
80-85 hell 8 peeps baal runs (1/2 lvl per run)
- takes 10 runs, at 10 mins per run: total 1 hour 40 mins

or

if you can not get hell rushed:
70-74 nm 8 peeps baal runs(1 lvl per run)
- takes 4 runs, at 5 mins per run: total 20 mins

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These are approximate times, i've been in hell baal runs that take less than 5 mins, but it can't hurt to estimate high.

TOTAL(to lvl 70): 1:15 + 0:10 + 1:25 + 0:10 + 2:05 = 5:05
TOTAL(to lvl 85 hell rushed): 5:05 + 0:20 + 0:30 + 0:40 + 1:40 = 8:15
TOTAL(to lvl 74 staying in nm): 5:05 + 0:20 = 5:25

That's how i do it anyway, if there is some other way to do it faster, i would love to know it. :spy:

krucker13
09-11-2004, 21:16
that's right the lvl just to 25 is the hardest, but what you mean with trist runs?

Still wondering how the do this without skill point or something...

Dunno if u got it from the other posts but trist runs if clearing out tristam (thru the portal in stony fields where you get cain).

Hope that helps

-krucker-

MjolnirY
10-11-2004, 09:06
@all thanks for that info.

Soon I have little free time and I like to test that all.

I heard that by classic it's work also quick.

Terrorwind
10-11-2004, 14:43
understand it but I see at forum that plp giving lvl service on 1 day the give a lvl 75 even without skill or great part of stats.

How you can in 12 hours ex. a lvl 75? that my big question.

The main answer of "How do people level with no skill points used or stat points used?" is that people leech in public games.

Basically, they party up with similar levelled people and run behind and don't kill anything (because they can't). You share exp from others kills. It's poor form to do, but that's how it's done.

twelvebagger
10-11-2004, 15:19
My recipe:

1-10 a1 anything, just go thru the first few quests with 8 peeps
--
10-15 norm 8 peep countess runs (kill all and only the uniques/minions. 1 to 2 lvls per run) do these by urself, just join a game with random 8 people
--
15-20 norm 8 peep andariel runs (kill all and only the uniques/minions. 1 to 2 lvls per run) do these by urself, just join a game with random 8 people
--
20-24 norm 8 peep cow runs (get a high lvl friend to help you here)

- takes from 30 mins to 1 hour to get to lvl 20
- takes 15 mins to get to lvl 24

Get rushed (10 mins)

25-40 norm 8 peep baal runs (1 lvl per run)
- takes 15 runs, at 5 mins per run, that takes 1 hour 25 mins

Get rushed (10 mins)

40-50 nm 8 peep baal runs (2 lvls per run)
- takes 5 runs, at 5 mins per run: total 25 mins

50-70 nm 8 peep baal runs (1 lvl per run)
- takes 20 runs, at 5 mins per run: total 1 hour 40 mins

If you can get hell rushed (20 mins):
70-76 hell 8 peep baal runs (2 lvls per run)
- takes 3 runs, at 10 mins per run: total 30 mins
76-80 hell 8 peep baal runs (1 lvl per run)
- takes 4 runs, at 10 mins per run: total 40 mins
80-85 hell 8 peeps baal runs (1/2 lvl per run)
- takes 10 runs, at 10 mins per run: total 1 hour 40 mins

or

if you can not get hell rushed:
70-74 nm 8 peeps baal runs(1 lvl per run)
- takes 4 runs, at 5 mins per run: total 20 mins

----------------------

These are approximate times, i've been in hell baal runs that take less than 5 mins, but it can't hurt to estimate high.

TOTAL(to lvl 70): 1:15 + 0:10 + 1:25 + 0:10 + 2:05 = 5:05
TOTAL(to lvl 85 hell rushed): 5:05 + 0:20 + 0:30 + 0:40 + 1:40 = 8:15
TOTAL(to lvl 74 staying in nm): 5:05 + 0:20 = 5:25

That's how i do it anyway, if there is some other way to do it faster, i would love to know it. :spy:

Good post, but I think your times are almost representing ideal circumstances. The problem with estimating a time is that you are at the mercy of the group you run with.

I think that leveling to 24 takes an average time of 2-3 hours alone, to include all of the waiting you do in an attempt to find a good tomb/cow group.

Nothing personal, I like the post--I just think that it doesn't account for any waiting time, and there's more time spent waiting and doodling that there is hunting, when you're sub level 25.

Awaiting-Death
10-11-2004, 17:15
Good post, but I think your times are almost representing ideal circumstances. The problem with estimating a time is that you are at the mercy of the group you run with.


I agree I was being a bit optimistic here, but hey, don't worry be happy now.

doo doo doo do-do-do do-do-do-do-do-do doooo...

kobrakai[UK]
11-11-2004, 03:43
There is a quicker way but it means you need a good friend with a nice hammerdin.

First you need to rush your character to act 4 hell, best if this is done in classic and then convert to LOD.

Then your friendly hammerdin does hell CS runs and you tag behind and leech off him. Getting to lvl 24 takes a while, but at lvl 25 you should get to lvl 45 in about 3 full runs. Proceed to do this until you are at the level you want or high enough to get good experience from baal runs.

The 3 anceints quests can also be completed, if the character has been converted from classic, to gain an extra level in the 20's, 40's and 60's.

Using this method I have got a character to level 60 in less than 3 hours.

Ax2Grind
11-11-2004, 18:38
What's the maximum numerical amount of experience you gain from each Ancients quest?

If you cross-reference this with experience between levels you'll find the ideal time to do those quests. I don't believe I've done normal Ancients before L30 in .10 yet, having gained enough experience in other areas before then, yet I've gained a level every time I've faced them. Maybe they should be difficulty*30.

Orphan
11-11-2004, 23:48
I wondered myself how some1 can very rapidly char uplvl up to lvl75 or more ( like lvl up service ) even without skill's and points?

It's possible to get a character to lvl 75 with no skill points and minimal stat points taken by using a enchanter to help. Point in case, yesterday I managed to get to lvl 24, in about 2-3 hours, in a players 4 game (keep in mind this was on classic D2, but I don't see how it wouldn't work on expansion).

1. Get enchanted (buy a bow, at level 15 use RavenClaw)
2. Go to Black Marsh. You should get to level 12 from clearing out blackmarsh and Tamoe Highland.
3. Go to act 2 claw viper temple and fight through to break alter.
4. Go to arcane and find summoner (if your lucky, or unlucky [depending on how you look at it] you'll have a chance to clear more than one way).
5. Clear Tal Rasha's tomb.

You should be around level 20 by now, so you should do a few cow runs to get to level 24.

The whole process took me from about 2:00 to about 5:00, with some interruptions. Also, in a higher player count game, you should be able to do it faster.