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whispering prince
08-11-2004, 16:10
i have an almost pure bliz sorc. when is the point i have to switch to mf gear if i want that it takes effect? Is it
1) casting the last bliz with mf gear on, or
2) casting the last bliz with the gear that provides me with good +res and +skills and then switch to mf gear?

MagicMastered
08-11-2004, 16:16
Im pretty sure it calculates the mf at the moment the monster dies, not on the moment the killing blow was cast.

Krushedice
08-11-2004, 16:21
You probably want to 'sliver' or bring the bosses life down to nearly nothing before switching to magic find gear and dealing the killing blow. Of course, if you can find a balance between mf and utility you can often find good drops along the way while running bosses.

EgafrU
10-11-2004, 08:31
this might be in another thread(if you can direct me that would be great) but people keep talking about their merc's and i can't get a merc to go between acts...do i need the expansion for this or....?

egafru

and thanks for the info on the leveling thing :) starting to get the hang of it all now

Fercil
10-11-2004, 08:58
this might be in another thread(if you can direct me that would be great) but people keep talking about their merc's and i can't get a merc to go between acts...do i need the expansion for this or....?
Yes, this requires the expansion which will give you a lot of other new things as well and is well worth the money. Just about all the talk and guides on these forums are about the game with the expansion.

You can make a new thread by clicking the "new thread" button above the thread list.

MrScythes
10-11-2004, 09:51
Im pretty sure it calculates the mf at the moment the monster dies, not on the moment the killing blow was cast.

Can anyone absolutly confirm this?

You probably want to 'sliver' or bring the bosses life down to nearly nothing before switching to magic find gear and dealing the killing blow. Of course, if you can find a balance between mf and utility you can often find good drops along the way while running bosses.

At that moment you wont know what the killing blow is, is it the blizzard you cast with damage gear on that is still raging over Mephi's head, or the new mf gear blizzard.

I really really really (really really? really really!) want to know, because it makes a big difference for me (ist ist baba + 20% mf shield).

./edit btw, original poster, how long does it take you to take down Hell Meph?

Pitboss_2000
10-11-2004, 10:29
Well... I always switch to MF gear when Mephi's health has dropped to about 1/3 or 1/4.

I'm quite sure the game calculates the MF when you cast the killing blow, or shoot the killing arrow or whatever, not when the monster dies. Or at least, that's waht sounds most reasonable to me.

GenXCub
10-11-2004, 16:57
I think certain spells and skills use the time of monster death (like hydra, assassin traps, summons), but others use what was equipped when it was cast (fireball). I think blizzard falls under the latter. Switch to MF gear before casting the killing spell.

Necrolestes
10-11-2004, 16:59
GenXCub's right. That's the only reason I keep the otherwise useless Gull dagger in my inventory (the 100% MF).

MrScythes
10-11-2004, 18:20
Which means a big decrease in kill speed seeing that a blizzard duration is quiet long. Don't want the old one still raging. Thnx

Stoopid_NewB
10-11-2004, 18:34
Yes, this requires the expansion which will give you a lot of other new things as well and is well worth the money. Just about all the talk and guides on these forums are about the game with the expansion.

You can make a new thread by clicking the "new thread" button above the thread list.

You can get it from amazon.com for $9.99. And if you buy something else to bring your total to $25, you get free shipping.

whispering prince
11-11-2004, 17:16
./edit btw, original poster, how long does it take you to take down Hell Meph?

i can't tell you how long it takes me to take Hell Meph down. i'm stuck in hell flayer jungle :rant: i have an almost pure blizz sorc (wasted like three points to the fire tree, though ...) lvl 76, dealing 2.2k of blizz dmg. :D

but there is no way i can survive in the flayer jungle with all these cold immunes. not to mention killing those #*@ç ... :( and i need that khalim's brain or heart or what ever from the flayer dungeon. i asked myself to start a game with the title "pgems 4 hell rush". what would be an appropriate price in pgems for an act 3-5 hell rush? i have no idea ...

btw, i take down NM baal in a couple of secs. 10-20 secs, i'd say.

cheers :drink:

MrScythes
11-11-2004, 22:11
You should really post a request in the Community Forum Help thread for a rush. Pure cold sorc is (imo) impossible for soloing hell.

(btw. 4.1K blizz dmg ;), hell mephi in 5 blizzards)

whispering prince
12-11-2004, 00:04
i don't need the rush anymore. i just learned to tele a bit better. teled thru flayer jungle and the rest of the act and killed meph alone. and meph dropped 39% mf chance guards :winner:

btw, this evening i opened a game called "need rush H A3". but somehow everybody thought this was an invitation for a free Hell Hellforge rune ... i'm somewhat disappointed by certain community members ... lol

cheeeeeeeeers, :drink: :drink: :drink:

MrScythes
12-11-2004, 00:10
congratz on your find, he didn't give me ANYTHING usefull in the past 48 hours (gonna try him one last time ;))

kethnaab
18-11-2004, 09:37
how do you know how much life your opponent has?

how can you tell that he is 1/4 or 1/3?

also, if you're wearing a bunch of MF gear, does that help you with Find Item?

Pitboss_2000
18-11-2004, 11:15
how do you know how much life your opponent has?

how can you tell that he is 1/4 or 1/3?

also, if you're wearing a bunch of MF gear, does that help you with Find Item?
The red bar behing their name decreases.

Diabolico x64
19-11-2004, 06:33
also, if you're wearing a bunch of MF gear, does that help you with Find Item?

Yes, find item works as if you've just killed that monster a second time, so it accounts for the all MF/GF you have.