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Wmeredith

28-10-2004, 23:32

With the consent of ARK from LEP, I am starting up a Pally Team on USEAST.
The basic idea is that a team of 8 Pallys all using complementary auras to each other could tear through anything in the game. Our team will be called Sons of the Rose and characters should be named SOR_something.

Here are the rules:

A) USEAST ladder.
B) We will all start as baby (level 1) pally's and play through the game from start to finish. No skipping quests and no rushing.
C) All drops will be shared for the benefit of the group.
D) The group will meet once a week on Sundays @ 8:00 CST and play 'till whenever we're tired.
E) Each Pally will have a single assigned aura that will eventually be maxed and fully synergized, except for the Cleric, more on this later. This aura will usually be what's turned on while we are playing.
F) The only time we may play these chars is at this time when we play together.

The Eight Pally's Will Be
1) Conviction
2) Holy Shock (I will be the Tesladin in the group, unless it's a deal-breaker for someone else.)
3) Holy Freeze
4) Holy Fire
5) Concentration
6) Fanatacism
7) Defiance
8) Cleric (Max Redemption/Holy Bolt/FOH/Blessed Hammer) (I'm going to go ahead and reserve this spot for my buddy who likes weird builds, but it may open back up.)

This is totally up to the group, but that's how I would like it to be. Hopefully, we will get a full 8 players, but the first 6 would do fine also. None of this is written in stone, but as we form the group we will build on this general idea.

If you are interested PM me with your e-mail address and I will contact you. If you're uncomfortable with that, just leave your acct name here and claim an aura, and we'll see how it goes. Depending on responses I would like to have the first game by next Sunday Night. First come, first serve. Perfect attendance is not crucial, but unless you can probably make it 80% of the time, please refrain from joining.

I'm really hoping this will work. I've always wanted to play with 8 pallys all cooperating. I think this group would defintely strike fear into the black hearts of Baals minions with sweet-action aura bad-***ness.

Lunatic

29-10-2004, 00:23

I myself wouldn't just limit myself to just the aura's. Make some different builds aswell. Perhaps something like the following.

martyr. (thorns / redemption)
crusader. (fanaticism)
Conc zealot. (concentration)
Frostknight. (holy freeze)
Tesladin (holy shock)
Avenger. (conviction)
Defiant smiter. (defiance)
Cleric (meditation / cleansing)

This way you have more or less builds that can complement eachother with aura's , yet they're different from eachother. If people don't like the crusader part , make it a fanatic zealot or so. :D

exedus

29-10-2004, 00:40

I have some question.......
Im in the Eastern time is it +1 hour? and about up to what time do we retire (im in school, so that a question)
If you mean we can only play with the team, can we play to lvl up to the same lvl (this is if you miss a day of playing)
If you mean by starting from lvl 1 does that mean we get our gear from the drops that we get??
I would love to join somthing like this, can I reserve a spot now? If I can I would like to be the FrostKnight (Zealot/Holy Freeze)
The account I will be using is Flip371

dont respond with a cruel and unjust judgement I might be :scared:

Wmeredith

29-10-2004, 03:32

Lunatic You should join us. You would be a welcome addition.

Exedus yeah, you would be 1 hour ahead of us. It would be 9pm your time. My general thought was that we would all try to get on at the same time and just play as long as we wanted, but at least an hour and a half. Plus in an 8 person game we could catch-up anyone who had missed an hour or two pretty fast. I was thinking about the twinking thing. I think the group should decide once it is formed. So far we have three players.

1) Flip371 - Holy Freeze / Zeal
2) The_Salmon - Tesladin / Zeal
3) Raul_Robot - Concentration / Zeal (My friend, he's a newbie, but very cool guy.)

So we have five spots left. They look like this :

4) Holy Fire (Zeal?)
5) Conviction (Zeal?)
6) Fanaticism (I think Vengeance would be crazy here.)
7) Defiance (Smite?)
8) Medic: Redemption/Holy Bolt/Fist of the Heavens/Cleansing

BTW I'm making this up as I go along. Lunatic I would really like to have on the team. I don't know anything about smiters or some of the more unusual builds, so you would be great as one of those, or "medic"(I just made that up). If anyone else who wants to join has suggestions LMK.

KidChaos

29-10-2004, 04:26

I would like to join this group ive always wanted to be in a pally group.I would like to be the defiance pally(smiter) :strong:.
chaos302 is my account

xam

29-10-2004, 04:27

Hi, If you like, I want to be a Hammerdin with max vigor and blessed aim. If no one use concentration, i will max it too. That's the most powerful paladin I've ever saw.

Wmeredith

29-10-2004, 06:02

Kidchaos Your in. You'll be our Defiance / Smite-adin.

Xam No offense, this isn't you at all, but I really don't want a Hammerdin on the team. I do have many personal problems with this build. I like pallys, A LOT, and I think the 1.10 hammerdin is the worst thing that ever happened to the Char Class. It's just so overpowered, and I built one and think they're boring to play. Additionally, the whole point of this is to be a great team. So no offense, but I'd rather not have a hammerdin with us. If you'd like to pick from one of the other pallys I'm trying to recruit, feel free, I'd love to have you with us. May I suggest the Fanaticism / Vengence build, its a very powerful combo.

So here is where we stand.

We've got:
1) Flip371 - Holy Freeze / Zeal
2) The_Salmon - Tesladin / Zeal
3) Raul_Robot - Concentration / Zeal (My friend, he's a newbie, but very cool guy.)
4) Defiance / Smite-adin

We're still recruiting for:

5) Holy Fire (Zeal?)
6) Conviction (Zeal?)
7) Fanaticism (Vengeance? This guy will be sick-powerful.)
8) Medic/Cleric. FOH/Holy bolt/Redemption/Cleansing

I've also convinced myself so far that the medic/cleric should have redemption on for most of the battles and be casting Max FOH constantly, so he's killing and spamming holy bolts. He can switch to cleansing if someone gets cursed. And he can kill oblivion knights with Holy Bolt. I think maxed bolt does like 6000 magic damage to undead so I'm interested to see this. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

Lunatic, I'm still asking you to join us. Your experience would come in handy as the "medic/cleric" or whatever you would want to make this eigth support character as.

Lunatic

29-10-2004, 11:16

Well my ping is usually ****ed up on East and West. I don't mind a ping of 200 or so , but I've had pings of around 1k all the time on west.

Anyway , another problem is that 8pm CST = 1pm CET (dutch time).

Wmeredith

29-10-2004, 16:34

What's wrong with that, Lunatic, no taste for the nightlife? J/k
Thanks for the info anyway.

Heres the breakdown thus far:

We've got: :winner:
1) Flip371 - Holy Freeze / Zeal
2) The_Salmon - Tesladin / Zeal*
3) Raul_Robot - Concentration / Zeal (My friend, he's new, but a cool guy.)
4) Chaos302 Defiance / Smite-adin

We still need any of these builds to join: :spy:

5) Holy Fire
6) Conviction
7) Fanaticism
8) Medic/Cleric. FOH/Holy bolt/Redemption/Cleansing

Hopefully we will be getting started on 11/7/04. :buddies:

*Note: If anyone wants to join our group as the Tesladin I will gladly fill another position on the roster.

BTW, Flip, Chaos,what do you guys think about twinking our characters? Yea or nay? I'm conflicted. :scratch:

Voice

29-10-2004, 17:25

allowed to xfer gear?

Wmeredith

29-10-2004, 18:25

allowed to xfer gear?

Yeah, "twinking", pretty sure I'm using this term correctly. :scratch:

Correctly or not, what I mean by "twinking" is xferring gear to a less powerful character that was found by a more powerful character.

I'm still debating whether or not our group will do this. It will come down to a concesus of the team. I think it could make it really fun, but would also make it less of a challenge; I think a group of 8 pallys, with complementary auras, will be pretty uber already without twinknig. We'll see...

Lunatic

29-10-2004, 19:02

What's wrong with that, Lunatic, no taste for the nightlife? J/k
Thanks for the info anyway.

1Pm isn't really night.:D

gods_pawn

29-10-2004, 19:10

I wouldn't mind joining as the Fanaticism paladin - most likely making Zeal as my primary attack. The only complaint I would have is how unoften you plan on playing. Once a week, till "everyone gets tired"? Sounds like ~2-3 hours of play time, enough to beat an act. 15 acts = 15 weeks, which is just under 4 months. That's a long time to hold everyone's interest.

And just a side note, I LOVE twinking. I live to twink.

Admiral_Schaal

29-10-2004, 19:47

If we are allowed to give our characters items... I'll play a Fire Ranger and give my char Raven Claw.

Otherwise I'll play the Cleric since raven, kuko and demon machine make that class playable later IMO..

MAX Prayer
MAX Holy Bolt
MAX Blessed Hammer
MAX FOH
and at least one in the following
cleansing
meditation
redemption
sanctuary

My primary tactic would be to have meditation on to keep my mana high so I can fire Holy bolts to heal/attack constantly.

Wmeredith

29-10-2004, 21:22

1Pm isn't really night.:D

Lunatic, sorry I'm so lame. :uhhuh:

Admiral_Schaal, I would like to have you on as a Cleric. I'm also not sure if you would need meditation if you had redemption on. Also b/c Holy Bolt is CHEAP to cast. IMHO anyway. Plus this is a very important member of the team b/c with Holy Bolt you can save the mellee players from IM by destroy oblivion Knights almost instantly.

Gods_Pawn, I think you're right. Maybe we should do it twice a week. Say on Wednesdays and Sunday nights a @ 8:00pm CST. I will count you on as our Fana / Zealer.

So here's were we are:

1) Flip371 - Holy Freeze / Zeal
2) The_Salmon - Tesladin / Zeal*
3) Raul_Robot - Concentration / Zeal (My friend, he's new, but a cool guy.)
4) Chaos302 - Defiance / Smite-adin
5) Gods_Pawn - Fanatacism / Zeal
6) Admiral_Schaal - Cleric (Holy Bolt/FOH/BH/Redemption/Cleansing/Prayer)

*Note: If anyone wants to join our group as the Tesladin I will gladly fill another position on the roster.

Still looking for a Holy Fire pally, and most importantly a Conviction Pally.
We'll be playing on Wed. and Sunday nights at 8:00 CST - till we're tired.
If we're meeting twice a week, then I think attendence will suffer more, but our players will be easily caught-up as long as you're there the next game after you miss. We can help each other catch up anyway.

As of now, I'll say we're twinking. We can talk more about this once we actually start playing.

exedus

29-10-2004, 21:41

reddusk5

29-10-2004, 22:08

:howdy: Oh man! I play on west non-ladder, but I'd play on East ladder for this, for sure! Either pm me on the forums or in game on on either (*greendawn, *atomic_dog). :thumbsup:

I'd be happy to take a convition pali (with vengance?) i've done many before and have wanted to make one in 1.10.

Wmeredith

29-10-2004, 22:36

never really knew what "twinked" an "twinked" means, my character will wear what ever drops......xfering is a problem since I dont have much on ladder..
Ive been thinking since most of us are zealots, that I should switch from a zealot to a dragoon (throwing pali rite?) with the damage plus from the auras any thrown weapon would cause a whole lot of elemental damage and I can take care of the archers(anything else that uses throwing attacks.) With a couple of thrown axes, Im going to try this because its a very wierd build, and trying something new never hurts....please post on what you think about this.....

another thing:
CST= Central Time right?
wouldn't that mean +2 or +1 hours to my time?
I live in Virginia Eastern Time
Just checking since Iam kind of lost

If anyone wants to go the dragoon route, I've got T-Strokes, D-arch, and Titans. I mostly play zons so...

As far as the time zone thing is concerned, I'm not sure. Maybe someone else can answer this?

Reddusk5 Sounds good. You'll be our Conviction / Avenger Pally.

So...

1) Flip371 - Holy Freeze / Zeal
2) The_Salmon - Tesladin / Zeal*
3) Raul_Robot - Concentration / Zeal (My friend, he's new, but a cool guy.)
4) Chaos302 - Defiance / Smite-adin
5) Gods_Pawn - Fanatacism / Zeal
6) Admiral_Schaal - Cleric (Holy Bolt/FOH/BH/Redemption/Cleansing/Prayer)
7) Reddusk5 - Conviction / Avenger
8) ??????

Who wants the last spot?

I say it's Holy Fire or Blessed Aim. Anyone?

Regardless: we'll tentatively schedule our first game first this Wednesday @ 8:00 CST and see how it goes. I'll be on Battlenet in the Sons Of The Rose channel. Message back here so I know who/if everyone can make it. I'll be setting up a new account for this char so I don't know what it will be yet. I'll post it here before Wednesday.

Between now and then, if anyone has any ideas post them here. I check these forums a lot while I'm at work, so I usually get back pretty quick.

BTW as far as my Strategy is concerned I'll just use holy shock most of the time. If the group runs into souls/gloams :grrr: etc. I'll just switch to lightning resist (It'll be maxed for synergy) since those guys are going to be immune to my main attack. I know convict will break it sometimes, but sometimes it won't too, so I'll just switch while you guys rule them. Thats pretty much my plan...

Oh yeah, and I'll be raining down the Holy-Shock-Convicted-Fanatic-Concentrated-Defiant-Frozen-pain-with-Zeal to on any and all who oppose me. :thumbsup:

Admiral_Schaal

30-10-2004, 00:09

The advantage of Meditation over Redemption is two fold:

1. It affects the entire party with the mana recovery. It seems most of us wont be using mana too much but you never know. *edit* it will definately help out the avenger with his mana cost...regardless if he goes lvl 20 vengeance or maxed out passive bonuses and level 1 vengeance.
2. It gets the passive bonus of prayer. So while I am keeping my mana constant I can also be giving everyone +25 heal of a maxed prayer even more so if I get beyond skill level 20.

Lunatic

30-10-2004, 00:57

The prayer / meditation / cleansing "synergie" is really nice. I was bored by the normal skill allocation for hammerdins by putting the remaining points in holy shield. So I put some more in prayer. Right now I get 31 life each 2 seconds. This doesn't sound like much , but in a baalrun while flashing meditation between the waves in this can make the difference of life and death.

Ofcourse I use holy bolt to heal my injured teammates aswell. To bad most people seem to fear holy bolt for some reason. Whenever I want to heal them , they run amok around the whole throne. Usually to die from the poison of wave nr 2 in conjunction with wave 3. :D

SMG

30-10-2004, 01:42

I would take the Cleric spot but im a westie and therefore needing the gris set : (

DubVoyage

30-10-2004, 03:31

How serious is the attendance issue going to be? I'd only be able to commit to a sometimes on Wednesdays, but Sundays would be fine. I'm very enthused about this party. I'd be interested in either a Holy Fire Ranger with an exploding bow, or a Might-using Charger to nuke single targets fast.

MagicAndMadness

30-10-2004, 03:54

reddusk5

30-10-2004, 03:56

I would like to get the Cleric slot, if possible. Since Admiral_Schaal did say he'd want to be a Fire Ranger if twinking was permitted, if twinking was allowed, I'm sure he wouldn't mind me taking the Cleric position.

MagicAndMadness was my roommate for school last year, and I am of the opinion that he's a good guy, so I'd be more than happy to see him play as our cleric, but the fianl call is up to you guys.

raul_robot

30-10-2004, 03:56

This looks pretty sweet to me. I'm definitely in Salmon. Paladin is the one class I haven't played before, so I hope everyone is okay with my ignorance of the class. Wednesday is fine with me, and Sundays will usually be good as well(I might have to leave a little earlier, since I am Eastern Time and have to work early Monday mornings). I usually can't control myself anyways, and stay up playing much later than I actually should; just like everyone else I'm sure.

plastikmelter

30-10-2004, 09:08

hey, id really like to do this if there is still a spot open. i'll take any build available but i can defintily be there for every play time. please let me know cause this sound really cool. email me at earneszm@jmu.edu

acct name on d2: jmuzach

i hope there is still room!

Tridge

30-10-2004, 11:39

realize you can "stack" with medi/salvation or etc. etc. too

I'd jump in, but it seems to be full-up :\

gl guys!

gods_pawn

30-10-2004, 18:40

Awesome, thanks for letting me in Wmeredith - never really got into the Fanatic Zealots, this will be a fun adventure. I was afraid doing nothing but furiously hitting everything as fast as I can would get boring, but now that there's a group....seems like it will be a bit more fun!

I always like learning more about the ways of Diablo 2 - I'm sure we'll all have some cool tricks to share.

AND NO SORC's to TELEPORT! :clap:

Wmeredith

31-10-2004, 01:50

Alright, guys, here's the deal:

We have all eight.

The Sons of the Rose are...

1) Holy Freeze / Zeal - Flip371
2) Tesladin / Zeal - The_Salmon
3) Holy Fire / Ranger - Admiral_Schaal
4) Concentration / Zeal - Raul_Robot
5) Fanatacism / Zeal - Gods_Pawn
6) Defiance / Smite-adin - Chaos302
7) Conviction / Avenger - Reddusk5
8) Cleric - MagicAndMadness

-We'll meet on Wednesdays and Sundays at 8:00pm CST.

-We'll not be doing any rushing, we're playing through the whole game Norm, NM, and Hell. I would also like no MH because I think it's sucky.

-We will be twinking, because I want to, unless someone in the group has a serious problem with it.

-Our first game will be this Wednesday 11/3/04.

-I'll make a game under my usual account: *the_salmon.
You guys can find me this way and we'll go from there.

-I think we should use this thread in between down times to share ideas and advice etc...

A few notes:

Admiral, I've got a nice bow, or two, for your ranger. Also, I don't know what combat skill would be good for a ranger, but I would think Vengeance, as long as it applies to ranged attacks.

I'm going to leave all clerical decisions up to M&M b/c I didn't even know that redemption doesn't go to the whole group. All I ask is that you seriously **** up those Oblivion Knights with Holy Bolt b/c I HATE I.M.

Attendence is going to be an issue for everyone at one point or another, so I don't want anyone to sweat it. One thing that will be awesome about a group of pallys is that our auras will help each other out so much that I don't think catch-up will be a big problem. Just try not to miss more than twice in a row, please.

I also don't know what to do about mercs, but we can figure this out later. I think a might and a Blessed aim are a must.

BattleQueen

31-10-2004, 02:35

I wish u better luck than the one we had. JRyan started a team but the whole thing kinda fizzled out after 2 sessions. So now my holyfire zealot JHotShotJ is on his own. If you need a backup HolyFire Zealot, just msg me on *tbq4 But his name won't be SOR_(wateva)...

reddusk5

31-10-2004, 02:53

I made a new account for East *BeastIn_TheEast; so i'll be playing on that account for the group.

Admiral_Schaal

31-10-2004, 02:10

No paladin combat skills work with ranged attacks as far as I know. The bows that work with a Fire Ranger are Kuko, Raven Claw, and Demon Machine.
I dont know of any others that have exploding arrow. However I could always switch to another bow and with all the auras I am sure I can do enough damage of another type if we run into Fire Immunes so hook me up with the bows =].

I should be able to make all Wednesday games. Sunday may be a problem if my hockey games run late.

MagicAndMadness

31-10-2004, 03:09

First of all, thanks for letting me join you guys in this. I'm sure we'll have lots of fun, =)

Okay, now onto my strategy:

In terms of auras, I'll probably be maxing Prayer for the synergy bonus to Meditation and use Meditation. I'm not sure how many points I'll need to add to Meditation, since it starts with a 300% increased mana regeneration. This way, I'll have an aura that regens both life and mana for the whole party.

For combat skills, I'll definitely be putting a lot of points into Holy Bolt and its synergies. I'll have to do the math to see what distribution of points will yield the highest damage.
Or maybe I'll just max Holy Bolt first for the added healing and then start adding whatever I have left to the synergies.
For the Holy Bolt synergies, I'll probably only drop the necessary one prerequisite point into Blessed Hammer (since Wmeredith stated he didn't like Hammerdins) and beef up Fist of the Heavens, instead. So, I'll probably be using FotH when I'm not busy healing everyone or blasting undead with Holy Bolt. Of course, if I find myself with FotH and Holy Bolt maxed, and with no other skills that need points, I'll drop them into Blessed Hammer for the synergy bonus.

As for stats, I suppose the amount of points I need to put into strength depends on what equipment I'll be using. As this is my first time playing USEast, I don't have any items to equip myself with. If you guys have any spare gear that'll be helpful to my build, I'd much appreciate it if you would let me use it.
Aside from strength, I'll probably distribute the rest between vitality and energy. (Not sure how much energy I'll need with the meditation aura, any suggestions on this will be much appreciated.) Doubt I'll need much dexterity, as I don't think I'll be swinging my weapon much, if at all. And for blocking and/or dodging, I don't think my Cleric will be up in the middle of the fray too often.

Anyway, that's just what I've come up with so far. Any ideas and suggestions would be appreciated, since all the above is theoretical, as I've never really played much as a Paladin.

gods_pawn

31-10-2004, 03:31

My strategy will be simple - the best defense is a good offense. I have an ethereal Breath of the Dying berserker axe I made for an avenger and got bored of - one attack per click was just too tedious.

I'll just be maximing my damage, getting as much AR as possible, and trying for a huge defense. I've heard that 30k ar and 25k defense is possible, so I'm all over trying to get there. Hopefully with full synergies, I can get close to 7k zeal damage, not sure how we are treating merc selection - but with our overlap in aura's, I'm sure getting insane damage won't be too hard.

And I second that proposal for f***ing up those Iron Maiden inducing Oblivion Mage bastards. They will kill me faster than I can blink.

MagicAndMadness

31-10-2004, 03:46

And I second that proposal for f***ing up those Iron Maiden inducing Oblivion Mage bastards. They will kill me faster than I can blink.
Heh, don't you worry about those Oblivion Knights. Holy Bolt deals with undead quite nicely. And Holy Bolt will probably be one of the first skills I max.

And now for the questions:

For the title in front of our name, on the first post it said "SOR", but if we want to be correct in terms of english, I believe "SotR" would be better. I also think SotR looks pretty cool. However, it's not my call to make, and I'd have no problem with it either way.

Also, we are playing on the USEast Ladder, correct? Because with the twinking going on, not all players may have their items they want to transfer on the ladder.

Just wanted to clear a couple of things up before I have to think up a name for my character. Oh yeah, I wouldn't mind any suggestions for the name of my cleric, either, =)

And now for my suggestions on hirelings:

I'll probably be getting an Act II Prayer Aura Mercenary to increase the healing of our party even further. I believe the effects of Prayer and Meditation stack, as they are different auras, but someone correct me if I'm wrong.

For other Act II Mercenaries that could be useful, I believe the Thorns, Might, and Blessed Aim ones would work well.

For the other 4 hirelings we'll have, I think we should get some rogues. As most of our paladins in the group will be meleeing the enemy, and with all of the aura mercs also being melee damage dealers, I think we'd need some more ranged support. Rogues should feel that place nicely.

reddusk5

31-10-2004, 04:20

Here's a not so short plan for my avenger. It's pretty damn long and the main point is at the very end so you can really just scroll down and skip over the bulk of this post.

20- Conviction (first thing to be maxed)
10 - resist cold
10 - resist fire
10 - resist light
20 - Vengance (I'll be putting one here as soon as the skill is available, and not another point until i take care of conviction and the resist skills)
1+ - Holy Sheild - (only one point until i take care of the above skills then I'd work on maxing it)

this means 11 into prereqs; making for a grand total of 81+ skill points used.
81-12 = 69, so i'd be free to start maxing holy sheild at clvl 69.

A pretty standard Avenger build really, I may change my mind and put only 1 into vengance and max the synergies instead, but the 210% Attack bonus for the maxed vengance is too good for me to pass up (in my opinion).

I am concerned about mana useage though, at ~9 mana a swing I'd be eating into my mana orb pretty fast, even with M&M's slvl 20 meditation on. I could just chug mana pots like a drunkard, but i think that those belt slots could be better for health pots and full juvies especally in hell difficulty. Sooo to combat this i was thinking of adding one point into redemtion which takes up another 5 skill points points, therefore....

81+5-12 = 74 I'd be able to start pouring into holy sheild at clvl74, which reasonably means I'd have a slvl 6 holy sheild at lvl 80 (which is where our chars will stop leveling up more or less).

now heres the main point.

MAIN POINT: Is the mana regen from a slvl 1 redemption worth defence and blocking bonuses from the 5 points that could have gone into holy sheild?

gods_pawn

31-10-2004, 04:56

MAIN POINT: Is the mana regen from a slvl 1 redemption worth defence and blocking bonuses from the 5 points that could have gone into holy sheild?
Redemption is a nice skill - it's like a free full rejuv after a battle. Worth it in my eyes. Also, I can help you out with a Guardian Angel - I have like 3 on a mule, and a near perfect one upgraded with a 12% resist all jewel for higher levels. Unless you're all set.

Lyrs

31-10-2004, 05:30

An 8-pally group should do more than fine without twinking. Infact, I think it's actually more fun to not twink, because the group has to rely much more on skill and teamwork then. It'll be like a beginning of the ladder season in HC. The thrill of living off the land is a rush.

Anyway, enjoy your walk in the park.

reddusk5

31-10-2004, 09:02

Redemption is a nice skill - it's like a free full rejuv after a battle. Worth it in my eyes. Also, I can help you out with a Guardian Angel - I have like 3 on a mule, and a near perfect one upgraded with a 12% resist all jewel for higher levels. Unless you're all set.

A GA would be great, but only once we start hell. I think we should do norm diff, maybe nm without twinking, but that's just my opinion.

Masticophis

31-10-2004, 12:53

I play HC Ladder on east, but not opposed to switching back over for something like this. I disagree with your take on the hammerdin though. If played aggressively, he's extremely fun to play. I.E. If you sit 5 to 6 yards away, and just let your hammers spiral out to kill, that IS boring. I prefer to tele (when I have enigma) or vigor into the group and let it all hand out. Get in the thick of the battle. Thats when a hammerdin shines, and becomes fun to play. With maxed concentration, the party will get a huge boots in dmg from him. I consider myself an expert when it comes to hammerdins, and can assure you.. hammerdins rock the undead...or anything else lol.

Only one type of enemy that hammers cant kill, something that isnt undead, and is magic immune. I think that only exsists in act3 hell. When going to get the book from the Ruined Temple.

Masticophis

31-10-2004, 12:59

Admiral_Schaal

31-10-2004, 15:50

Hardcore or softie ?

My personal opinion is that it be much more fun doing it untwinked and on hardcore =]. Makes it much more interesting and much more group oriented.

raul_robot

31-10-2004, 16:17

I think we should do it untwinked at least through normal, and possibly nm. I also think that SotR sounds better for the prefix. If anyone has any good advice for Conviction/Zeal let me know.

gods_pawn

31-10-2004, 16:46

I think we should do it untwinked at least through normal, and possibly nm. I also think that SotR sounds better for the prefix. If anyone has any good advice for Conviction/Zeal let me know.
I think playing untwinked through normal and nightmare would be fine. If we play on Hardcore, I won't have any items for twinking - either way is up to the leader and the group.

And for an avenger raul_robot, I highly suggets you use Conviction along with Vengeance - they compliment each other very well. I usually just use Zeal as a backup when I need to leech back some life and mana quickly.

raul_robot

31-10-2004, 17:57

I think playing untwinked through normal and nightmare would be fine. If we play on Hardcore, I won't have any items for twinking - either way is up to the leader and the group.

And for an avenger raul_robot, I highly suggets you use Conviction along with Vengeance - they compliment each other very well. I usually just use Zeal as a backup when I need to leech back some life and mana quickly.

Nevermind, I'm Concentration/Zeal....Any advice for that? I don't usually play pallies.

gods_pawn

31-10-2004, 19:47

Nevermind, I'm Concentration/Zeal....Any advice for that? I don't usually play pallies.
Hmm, well since we're all playing together, our build's will basically compliment each other - I'll add good damage, AR, and attack speed, you will add Damage and a chance for our hits to be uninterruptable - wow.

I suggest you get the typical one skill wonders for a paladin, and concentrate on making Zeal as strong as possible, and maxing out Holy Shield for more defense and blocking.

Beyond that, I don't know what you should do with the extra skill points - just make sure you're fully synergized with Holy Shield on top.

reddusk5

31-10-2004, 22:54

Does anyone have headstriker and steelskull on east ladder?

exedus

01-11-2004, 00:50

bah! bad news guys, my comp is on the freak mode again, getting madd adwares, spywares, and everyother wares.....I know this is a last minute call but the area of Holy Freeze is gone......I wont be playing D2 for a while untill I get my computer stright...Im really sorry about this.....

Wmeredith

01-11-2004, 01:51

First of all: Exedus, that sucks, man. We are without a freeze-adin. If anyone else is reading this thread and wants to step up, feel free. If anyone already on the team knows a friend who can do it, get them to post here.

Now that that's out of the way...

We will be playing Softcore USEast Ladder. I haven't yet had a videogame make me cry and I'm not about to start now.

Once we get to Hell we can twink.

I think as far as mercs go, we should get thorns, blessed aim, and might. I like the idea of the rest being rogues a lot.

Raul, obviuosly you'll be maxing zeal and concentration. I would say put the rest in Holy Shield so you'll be a crazy tank. You should check out some of the build guides at the top of this forum to see what else you might want.

I think the prefix should be SotR too. I made my char, SotR_McShocker, the other night and this is what's at the beginning of his name. So in our first game on wednesday you'll be looking for my new account *sotr not *the_salmon as previously stated.

As for you guys that are playing on USEast for the first time and have no gear to twink with: I'm sure the group can give you guys some stuff when we get to Hell. I can loan some as long as I get it back. I've got 3 ladder chars and they're all outfitted pretty well with endgame gear. Not uber-1337 stuff but I've got stuff like corpsemourn, runemaster, couple of SS, Heaven's light, couple of strings, Nos coil, Perf Spikethorn, Nice Kira's, Mav helm and some other stuff of course. I think we'll be ok. The only thing that I will really be lacking to loan is jewelry. Besides, even if we couldn't twink at all I think once we get our levels 40-ish we'll be a force to be reckoned with b/c of all our auras, which is the whole point of this.

Keep checking back here, I will be. See ya' on Wednesday. :buddies:

Admiral_Schaal

01-11-2004, 16:06

I'll play the Frost Zealot since I've never played one before.

Admiral_Schaal

01-11-2004, 19:39

On Second thought I think I'll play a Crusader.

That'll give us all the damage auras might/concentration/fanatacism.

I'll do what I assume is the usual:

max might
max vigor
max charge.

All I ask for any items anyone has on softcore ladder, since I dont play that, is some kind of mana leeching item to help out the mana cost on top of the meditation.

Wmeredith

01-11-2004, 22:01

Good news, guys, we got a frostadin!

PlastikMelter has stepped up.

So:

1) Holy Freeze / Zeal - PlastikMelter
2) Tesladin / Zeal - The_Salmon
3) Crusader: Might/Vigor/Charger - Admiral_Schaal
4) Concentration / Zeal - Raul_Robot
5) Fanatacism / Zeal - Gods_Pawn
6) Defiance / Smite-adin - Chaos302
7) Conviction / Avenger - Reddusk5
8) Cleric - MagicAndMadness

Setup:

First game is this Wed. 11/3/04 @ 8:00 CST. We'll meet in Channel SOTR

No MH or Pickitt, please.

Your name should be SotR_something

No twinking until Hell.

We share all drops for the good of the group. Basically all this means is if something good drops, try to grab it. If you've got better gear than what you picked up, please drop it for someone else. If you don't have better gear, equip whatever it was that you picked up, and then drop what you were using before so someone else can see if it will help them out. Basically just don't be ****-head, this is a team effort.

We're playing USEAST Ladder Softcore.

Please max your main aura, all other points are up to you.

Mercs: this will also mainly be personal preference. I think we should do at least one with thorns, one blessed aim, and the rest Rogues / Iron Wolves since we'll be mostly melee.

If anyone has anyhting else to add LMK!

Wmeredith

02-11-2004, 23:16

MAIN POINT: Is the mana regen from a slvl 1 redemption worth defence and blocking bonuses from the 5 points that could have gone into holy sheild?

I don't think so. I'd leave it up to M&M's Meditation and keep one row of Blues in your belt. Just my 2 cents...

gods_pawn

03-11-2004, 00:02

Tsume

03-11-2004, 03:26

@Wmeredith
If your Medic/Cleric player doenst show up, or turns out to be unable to play, I would be more than happy to fill the vacancy. If not good luck to all you guys and have fun! I wish i wouldve checked for this post sooner!

Wmeredith

03-11-2004, 19:02

Welcome aboard, PlastikMelter! Can't wait to get this thing going. As for merc's, I vote we get one of each of the Act2 Merc's - all of them will have even MORE benefitial Auras overlapping ours. We can get a Might Merc (more damage!), a Holy Freeze merc (just to make sure the whole screen is covered in blue), one Blessed Aim merc (AR), one Defiance merc (defense), and maybe a thorn's merc would help a lil bit too.

Question: when do we start?

Setup:

First game is this Wed. 11/3/04 @ 8:00 CST. We'll meet in Channel SOTR

No MH or Pickitt, please.

Your name should be SotR_something

No twinking until Hell.

We share all drops for the good of the group. Basically all this means is if something good drops, try to grab it. If you've got better gear than what you picked up, please drop it for someone else. If you don't have better gear, equip whatever it was that you picked up, and then drop what you were using before so someone else can see if it will help them out. Basically just don't be ****-head, this is a team effort.

We're playing USEAST Ladder Softcore.

Wmeredith

04-11-2004, 15:35

Nice Game last night guys. For the 2 that left early, we went ahead and got the staff in Act2 then quit for the night. Would you guys all please reply here with your Character name now that we have them. I think this group is really going to rock. It is truly awesome to call for help and have 6 other Pallys charge onto the screen all having a different aura blazing. :surprise:

SotR_Godspark: Tesladin
SotR_Bishop: Concentration
SotR_CureThree: Cleric

I couldn't remember the others, so post here and let me know. Once again, nice game that was a lot of fun. I can't wait until we're all level 50 or so, we will destroy.

raul_robot

04-11-2004, 16:10

it's actually SotR_TheBishop...
TheBishop

Last night was pretty sweet. I got my Concentration skill level up to 2 at least...
Nothing stands in our way.

Admiral_Schaal

04-11-2004, 16:58

Wmeredith

04-11-2004, 18:29

SoTr_Crusader = Crusader

I also have a friend who is interested in taking the Fanatacism Zealot's place if he is not going to show. He already made a SotR_Character that is level 12. So he is ready to fill in if necessary.

That's cool. I really want to give Gods_pawn another chance to show b/c he gave me a 3os phase blade the other night to make a Crescent Moon for my tesladin. I he doesn't show on Sun., your bud can join us on Wed.

If you're reading this, Pawn, read through the posts on this forum. The game time and place are listed many times above.

By the way, I'm pretty sure that that was who's missing. If I'm wrong someone correct me please.

SotR rocks. :yep:

gods_pawn

04-11-2004, 19:17

Wmeredith

04-11-2004, 19:45

Argh! I apologize guys - I was all ready to start playing and all too. I just forgot the check this thread yesterday. I will be there on sunday, without a doubt. How far are you? I can catch up exactly where you left off.

Make an SotR_something Char and level up to 19, thats where I'm at. See you Sunday! We can rush you through andy and get you Radament's quest first thing on Sunday, if you can't get that far while leveling.
:thumbsup:

KidChaos

04-11-2004, 22:48

SotR_Chaos=defiance/smite-adin

reddusk5

04-11-2004, 23:57

SotR_Antihero - avenger

plastikmelter

05-11-2004, 05:17

SotR_FreezU - Holy Freeze

gods_pawn

07-11-2004, 00:29

SotR_Spastic lives!!!! I'll see you guys tomorrow night.

Wmeredith

07-11-2004, 02:40

SotR_Spastic lives!!!! I'll see you guys tomorrow night.

Haha, nice name.

gods_pawn

08-11-2004, 04:07

Wmeredith

08-11-2004, 15:44

Well, I suppose you guys are busy playing right now. I am really sorry, I can't believe how insane the lag has been as of late. I am consistently hanging betweek 1k ping and 5k ping, sometimes higher!

It's so frustrating, it took me 45 swings to kill a stupid carver, and I was promptly killed by a neighboring quill rat.

I barely got the network running again, so I figured I'd let you guys know what was up before it goes down again. This is the screwiest network I've set up.

I really want to play with you guys, but I have to fix my stupid computer first. If you need to, go ahead and replace me, I'll understand.

Hey, Pawn, when did you post this? Are you going to be on the team or what? I would really like to have you along.

Also if anyone on the team misses, or is going-to miss, a game and has time to post here about it, do so. That way the other team members won't woner if we lost a 'mate. On a related note: Chaos what's up? Are you still in? It's cool if you just missed last night. Try to catch up to where we are by Wed. (See the update below.)

Progress made on Sunday 11/7/04:

-We made it to Act 3 and retrieved Kahlim's Eye. We also got the bird and gave it to Alcor for his life potion. Kid Chaos did join us as our Fanatic Pally, but he was having a lot of ping problems with his ping. Hopefully this will not be an issue in the future, because it's probably really frustrating for him.

-I can't speak for all members of the group, but I am now up to level 23. One more and I get to start dumping my points into Holy Shock. Woot!

-Teamwork is good amongst the Son's of the Rose. I think we will be really powerful here shortly. Having a Cleric backing me up is just too cool. I can't wait until we're all lvl 30+. I'm really looking forward to Conviction.

See ya'll on Wed. I'll have to pry my XBOX controller out of my hands. :uhhuh:

:buddies:

gods_pawn

08-11-2004, 17:21

Hey, Pawn, when did you post this? Are you going to be on the team or what? I would really like to have you along.
Hehe, I posted that before I managed to get on and play with you guys. Yep I'm in, all smooth sailing now. I should be all caught up by Wednesday.

reddusk5

09-11-2004, 07:05

-Teamwork is good amongst the Son's of the Rose. I think we will be really powerful here shortly. Having a Cleric backing me up is just too cool. I can't wait until we're all lvl 30+. I'm really looking forward to Conviction.

See ya'll on Wed. I'll have to pry my XBOX controller out of my hands. :uhhuh:

:buddies:

Conviction > j00 :P

btw hurray for Halo 2

Wmeredith

10-11-2004, 16:16

Yes, horray for Halo 2. Totally awesome game. See you guys tonight at eight.

reddusk5

11-11-2004, 08:45

Sorry I couldn't make it guys, some things came up that required my imidate attention. Heal and I will lvl together and try to catch up, just post on where you guys got up too.

Wmeredith

11-11-2004, 15:18

We didn't get anywhere. Bishop and I were the only ones that showed. We waited until 8:10 and then went and played halo 2 on XBOXlive b/c we figured that's what everyone else was doing. :lol:

See ya'll Sunday.

Captain_Straydum

11-11-2004, 22:39

Ive ben gone too long ;_; I would've ben the Fanatic//Avenger too o well :P
Maybe next time, GL guys Have fun ^_^

gods_pawn

14-11-2004, 05:50

Guys, so sorry. I have to resign from my position. I'm on the verge of quitting Diablo 2 (again) because I just don't have much time for it anymore. There's no way I can commit myself to play 2 times a week.

Sorry I'm not following through, I hope you understand.

raul_robot

14-11-2004, 17:41

If you're quitting, you should definitely give me all of your stuff then, especially any runes you have. :thumbsup:

Wmeredith

15-11-2004, 15:10

Sorry to hear that, Pawn, I'm on the verge myself, but I just can't do it yet. As Raul said, if you want to donate anything to me that would be sweet, if not, that's cool too.

Sorry I wasn't there last night, guys. I went out of town this weekend and didn't get back until late. I'll be there Wednesday though. How far did you guys get?

raul_robot

15-11-2004, 17:20

I had to work late last night, and by the time I got on (10:00 EST) no one was playing. Do I need to catch up, or did anyone play?

crimesofpassion

16-11-2004, 09:29

Wmeredith

16-11-2004, 16:44

hello there i was just reading around and sam this forum the pally team looks to be something awsome. if there is any openings or you guys can think of another biuld then i would love to join the team. i have a hammerdin right know and he is about lvl 30 and i love the idea of a palidin. some many different choices well any ways just right back on this forum or email me at bigpig_03@hotmail.com or bigpig_200354@yahoo.com thank you later

Thanks for checking out our thread. The team-pally party is truly awesome. We have missed the last couple of sessions, mainly due to Halo 2 :clap: I think. Last Wednesday no one showed up, and this Sunday I was told by my bud, Raul_Robot that no one was around either. I missed on Sunday b/c I was out of town.

Anyway, we just lost our Fanaticism pally, so keep checking back here. I don't know if H2 has given the permanent axe to our group or not. :scratch: We'll meet wednesday, or at least I'll be there and Raul probably will, and I'll see who shows up. See you later guys. Oh, and if you are throwing in the towel permanently, please post and let me know here so I can replace you. Peace, all. :buddies:

crimesofpassion

16-11-2004, 22:35

ya a zelot, that is the one that most interestes me ya let me know and i will check back here as much as i can. that would suck to let such a wonderful idea go to waste. i am totally exited about this. it is an awsome idea i always thought that the paly was the most virsitile. well anyway if i cant join than that sux but i missed out and good luck with all your biulds.

MagicAndMadness

17-11-2004, 11:59

Hey guys, just thought I'd let you all know that I probably won't be on for the first hour of today's (Wednesday's) session. I usually don't work on wednesdays, but today, I do, and won't get back home until 6:45 or 7:00 (Pacific Time, that would be 8:45 and 9:00 in Central Time). So, anyway, I will sign on as soon as I can when I get home.

raul_robot

22-11-2004, 08:42

Well guys... I was on last night, and no one but Magic&Madness showed. Is the dream over? Has Halo 2 stolen our souls? I know it has wrenched mine away from all reality. Are the Sons of the Rose a fading legacy that never even got the chance to become something of legend? Oh well... Looking for Um rune....bah humbug. :howdy:

Wmeredith

22-11-2004, 10:20

Yes, Halo 2 has come between me and my dreams of a Paladin army. Hopefully it will be resurected at some point. As of now, though, anytime I have some time I can devote to gaming, Halo 2 comes first. I've been putting off writing that down, but now I've gone ahead and done it. I didn't really want to admit it to myself.

If anyone wants to try to fnd me on XBox Live my gamertag is *McSalmon.

My clan is *46n2 and we are doing well.

I'm not quiting D2, because I have way too much time invested in my characters and my gear to just drop it, but I'm sure I'll be on hiatus for a while. My guess is I'll be back as soon as some of the new rune words are discovered. Either that or when D3 comes out...

Whichever happens first. :lol: