View Full Version : Do you take your opponent's gold in Public Duels?
RainofChaos220
28-10-2004, 04:39
I usually take it, but strictly depending on the amount. For example I won't take 5-10K gold, but I will take 30k+, what about you.
Kodachi_ysaane
28-10-2004, 04:43
yes, I always nk pubs and steal gold.
If it is a private duel then i will play gm if the opponent is also gm respectively.
TheCerberus
28-10-2004, 04:43
I usually take it unless they're asking not to and are nice as well. If I do take it, then I gamble it as soon as I get enough, but I don't really see how people can get that mad when someone takes it.
well some peopel need to repair
ill take gold if the guys an *******, or i need repairs
I never take gold...
Only reason is if that person takes gold from others...
I kill and take all and just gamble gamble gamble...
I always take gold in pubbies. Most people in pubbies are full of jackasses and the usual nk/tg/jumping/AAers, anyway, so there's no reason not to. Sometimes I take turns switching to my bone nec, bowazon, or hammer/charge pally and spread the wealth around. :lol:
- Terry
I don't take gold unless someone is bm to me or others. Then it's fair game.
Like today, I was in a LLD game, and some lvl 12 charger was taking gold, so I killed him, took his gold, and was ready to NK him to make him leave. I see him walk over to the corner of town, and walk back to get his body. So I stroll over there, and see he had dropped 20k+ gold to avoid getting it lost if he got NKed. So I pick it up, and he doesn't notice for a while until he goes back over there, sees it's gone, and leaves. :lol:
Gold is dumb. I don't even see it when I duel. I duel for fun, not for gold. If I want gold, I go kill a monster. Much faster than dueling when done correctly. Most people don't carry around 2 mil in a duel game anyway.
Most pubbies are filled with jackasses, because most people are jackasses in pubs. You guys ARE the jackasses in pubs(the ones that nk/goldsteal with no provocation). Not sure why you can't see that :)
Its like saying, I'm only a jerk to strangers. How is that better than being a jerk to your friends?
I dont take gold anytime, why lower myself to the level of gold taking nker's?
i don't take gold, but i completely expect to get mine stolen. so i just gamble all of it in a private game then drop the rest and fill my belt slots with town portals/staminas/thawing pots and watch them fly when i get killed. i love watching someone wander over to my body expecting to steal (yes, steal, not earn) gold and just find random pots.
luuuucifer
28-10-2004, 08:10
Even if you dont take the gold, some random person will tele over and grab the gold, and u'll get blamed for it anyway...
My favorite are the ppl who hide in the town entrance, sneak their head out for a few blasts/shots, then run back. As soon as they get someone, they'll quickly grab the gold and leave... What fun way to spend your time...
Ethereal.Grizzly
28-10-2004, 09:20
talk about marginal benifit. lol
I remember one time in a pub game, there was the obligatory town guarding, NKing trapper, who was killing everyone for the purpose of taking their gold. He's thinking it's the funniest thing in the world. I forget what character I used, but I got tired of it, and went at him from the Cold plains. Bang, he's dead. I take his gold, and make the mistake of assuming he's learned his lesson. Nope, he goes right back to it. So I go after him again, same results, he's dead in a matter of seconds.
At this point, another person joins the game. The previously mentioned TGing/Nking Trapper leaves after insulting me in typical b.net fashion. Then I decide to see what's up with this new person. What does he have to say? "Give me my brother's gold back." :innocent:
Thinking that maybe he didn't know what his brother was doing, I tell him, to which he responds "Yeah, that sounds like my brother." Then he demands the gold back again, because apparently it's ok for his brother to take everyone's gold, but godless forbid someone kills him and takes his. He tried for another 10 minutes or so to try to provoke it out of me, but I just laughed at him until he left.
Personally, I dislike gold stealing in dueling games. There's always someone that insists on it, though.
Vindictive
28-10-2004, 13:13
Nope never steal gold. Dun see any point really, though i might if I saw like a 300K pile, but i never pay attention to how much it is. Normally if i got any gold i just give it to another char that i do shopping with then go duel.
sheepe2004
28-10-2004, 14:24
i never take gold in duels except to take back any of mine which has been stolen
you know most people in public duels are ok theres no need to nk them or steal their gold just because theyre in a public duel game
Garbad_the_Weak
28-10-2004, 14:52
The thing that cracks me up is how people will cry about losing 5k gold and then leave necro wands, orbs, elite armor, etc on the ground in baal runs.
Garbad
I don't think people should cry about gold, but I don't think its neccessary to deliberately provoke them by taking it either. Roughly 90% of all nks I see are caused by someone freaking out over gold. ITS GOLD PEOPLE, NOT HIGH RUNES. Even though high runes might as well be gold now :(
Mehatesmaphack
28-10-2004, 17:40
I got 2 mil or more(depending on luck) from pk games each day when I was active. I got 4 decent-godly circlets from gambling. :lol: I usually took gold unless the person proved to be GM or impressed me in some way. I just laughed at people who cried about gold taking when they were in games such as "bm nk nk pk", "pk9", and "no manners pkpk".
It would probably take me all of 15 minutes to get 2M gold from travencal runs. Gold has zero value to me.
Olio
Taking gold is bad manners no-matter what. Public duels don't have that many rules for obvious reasons, you can't control it if it's public. But even if there are no rules you should still act with style, ethics and good manner, this includes not taking gold. If you don't then your just one of those players who's making b.net an appalling place to be...
I hate people who take gold, so I do not duel anymore. If I do, then I use a char with no gold at all. I usually do not take it, unless someone is being an a** and taking other's gold, town guarding, or naking people.
If i kill some1, i take gold and ear, since i am playing HC, i dont think he/she is gonna miss that gold...
Pallidum
28-10-2004, 19:34
I don't take gold. Bnets full of idiots as it is without me adding to the problem.
Really interesting. Public duels are always full of bad mannered fools, so that's my excuse for taking gold. But, no, I don't take gold just for the hell of it. I only take it when they were bad mannered in the first place (which is around 80% of the time). My suggestion is to do private duels or make a melee char and join melee games; at least in melee games, you only occassionally get annoying non-melee chars that come in to nk/tg/gold steal/etc. A lot of people in melee games are good mannered and don't usually steal gold, from my experience.
Go melee!
- Terry
BadLikeMe
28-10-2004, 21:04
i only take gold if they're bm, or picking on my lower lvl chars, i also take gold if it;s a huge amount; like i say, somebody who just drops 50+k in a pk game... just wants to be robbed.
here's a story for ya:
Ok one day, there was this lvl 80+ windy picking on my lvl 39 barb, so i brought my lvl 85 barb and what ya know, he refused to duel me! Big suprise right there.. so i kept pressuring him to duel me, the convo went somethign like this:
me: why won't you duel me? scared?
him: no.
me:then why not? you weren't afraid to duel a lvl 40.
him: no im not scared
me: then duel me
him: no
me: why not then?
him: i have too much gold to duel high lvls
me: ROFL, go hide it at a wp then.
him: fine, give me a min
me: k go
2-3 min later i found him at the river of flame, dropping all his gold.. so i killed him in 2 hits and grabbed all of his 1.3 mil. then i nk'd him for picking on low lvls.
please don't flame me..
Mehatesmaphack
28-10-2004, 21:40
i only take gold if they're bm, or picking on my lower lvl chars, i also take gold if it;s a huge amount; like i say, somebody who just drops 50+k in a pk game... just wants to be robbed.
here's a story for ya:
Ok one day, there was this lvl 80+ windy picking on my lvl 39 barb, so i brought my lvl 85 barb and what ya know, he refused to duel me! Big suprise right there.. so i kept pressuring him to duel me, the convo went somethign like this:
me: why won't you duel me? scared?
him: no.
me:then why not? you weren't afraid to duel a lvl 40.
him: no im not scared
me: then duel me
him: no
me: why not then?
him: i have too much gold to duel high lvls
me: ROFL, go hide it at a wp then.
him: fine, give me a min
me: k go
2-3 min later i found him at the river of flame, dropping all his gold.. so i killed him in 2 hits and grabbed all of his 1.3 mil. then i nk'd him for picking on low lvls.
please don't flame me..
GJ :thumbsup: I'd have done the same thing.
Wow. Not to flame or anything but reading this thread shows me why I stay away from PvP. The majority of you guys sound like e-thugs who get some kind of thrill from e-killing weaker opponents like it actually means something in life. :lol: Exactly the kind of people I want to stay away from.
I dont take gold anytime, why lower myself to the level of gold taking nker's? is about the only comment I respect.
Mehatesmaphack
28-10-2004, 22:08
Wow. Not to flame or anything but reading this thread shows me why I stay away from PvP. The majority of you guys sound like e-thugs who get some kind of thrill from e-killing weaker opponents like it actually means something in life. :lol: Exactly the kind of people I want to stay away from.
is about the only comment I respect.
:lol: You are saying this because you don't pvp. and what the hell do you think pvp is? it's killing someone in a computer game. we find it fun which is why we pvp, and it is precisely because killing someone in a computer game means absolutely nothing in real life that we can slay our opponents with no remorse. You sound like a real geek no offese.
all those high and mighty talks about not taking gold just make me laugh. Why the hell do you think your char drops gold and lose exp ( in nm and hell) when he/she dies? Because it makes sc d2 even more pointless if you lose absolutely nothing from dying. Dropping gold when you die is an incentive (probably the only one blizzard put in the game) to promote pking/dueling. It makes the game slightly more interesting when you've actually got something to lose when you lose. IF YOU DON'T WANT TO LOSE GOLD THEN DON"T DUEL OR BRING GOLD INTO DUEL/PK GAMES.
Taking gold from a slain opponent is completely different from stealing,scamming, and cheating. It's a a feature of the game and deal with it. Taking gold in a pk game is completely fair since it's your opponent's choice to decide whether to take the risk of losing gold unless you agree not to take gold.
NKing is totally fair as well chris. Why else would blizz have made you go get your body instead of just having it spawn with you? ;)
I do agree people should quit whining about losing it though. Like I said before, it doesn't even register for me other than a minor annoyance occasionally. I duel for the duel, not for whatever they drop. Maybe if gold was Worth something I would bother with it.
Actually, I think blizz should have put in a mini-duel map. Just have it setup to only accept 2 players at a time(an arena of sorts) and have an optional entry fee of runes. The players can set the fee which both will pay to a vendor, and when one dies the other gets the rune. Obviously all pots would be removed from your inv and belt before your duel, and your body would be returned to you upon death. It would be like hardcore, but without the annoying char rebuilding. :)
Edit: Sweet. Spawn toys!
I take the gold and than i give it back. People don't expect to get their gold back so they're surprised and sometimes thankful. This usually translates to some decent pubby duels because people like me and a good majority will try to respectfully duel. :clap:
Also, if a person decides to pick on me unfairly, there will be someone to help me out.
GDawgUnit
28-10-2004, 23:11
Well let me help you all out since you all can't figure it out. I Nk people for fun and steal their gold for no reason. I have no motive cept that i hate people. You all are losers for wasting your lives on a gaem, go out and learn a sport, people like me are kinda your saviors in a way. So as your savior, I say, go forth and prosper in non-Diablo2 ways.
Ethereal.Grizzly
28-10-2004, 23:17
:lol: You are saying this because you don't pvp. and what the hell do you think pvp is? it's killing someone in a computer game. we find it fun which is why we pvp, and it is precisely because killing someone in a computer game means absolutely nothing in real life that we can slay our opponents with no remorse. You sound like a real geek no offese.
all those high and mighty talks about not taking gold just make me laugh. Why the hell do you think your char drops gold and lose exp ( in nm and hell) when he/she dies? Because it makes sc d2 even more pointless if you lose absolutely nothing from dying. Dropping gold when you die is an incentive (probably the only one blizzard put in the game) to promote pking/dueling. It makes the game slightly more interesting when you've actually got something to lose when you lose. IF YOU DON'T WANT TO LOSE GOLD THEN DON"T DUEL OR BRING GOLD INTO DUEL/PK GAMES.
Taking gold from a slain opponent is completely different from stealing,scamming, and cheating. It's a a feature of the game and deal with it. Taking gold in a pk game is completely fair since it's your opponent's choice to decide whether to take the risk of losing gold unless you agree not to take gold.
well said chris :)
I always take gold in pubs, even if i didnt kill them. I just like to gamble and listen to people cry about gold. :howdy:
a trapsin that takes gold? never!
Mehatesmaphack
29-10-2004, 01:03
NKing is totally fair as well chris. Why else would blizz have made you go get your body instead of just having it spawn with you? ;)
I do agree people should quit whining about losing it though. Like I said before, it doesn't even register for me other than a minor annoyance occasionally. I duel for the duel, not for whatever they drop. Maybe if gold was Worth something I would bother with it.
Actually, I think blizz should have put in a mini-duel map. Just have it setup to only accept 2 players at a time(an arena of sorts) and have an optional entry fee of runes. The players can set the fee which both will pay to a vendor, and when one dies the other gets the rune. Obviously all pots would be removed from your inv and belt before your duel, and your body would be returned to you upon death. It would be like hardcore, but without the annoying char rebuilding. :)
Edit: Sweet. Spawn toys!
there's a fine line between what i consider pking and dueling. in pking anything goes except using hacks. In fact a lot of times I find it fun and challenging to fight against multiple tging, town hugging, potting, shrine using, tping, chickening, aaing, absorbing opponents, not that I don't consider cheaters ******** pussies. No stealing, scamming, cheating is my honor code. I'm generally mannered in pub games that are named duels not pk. I don't really care about nking espeically when it's a pub pk game.it's just a bit annoying when you are trying to duel someone else, and the people who nked me always ended up crying in the end.
mepersoner
29-10-2004, 01:30
Wow. Not to flame or anything but reading this thread shows me why I stay away from PvP. The majority of you guys sound like e-thugs who get some kind of thrill from e-killing weaker opponents like it actually means something in life. :lol: Exactly the kind of people I want to stay away from.
Every action in life means something. Whether it's killing people in diablo or crashing my car through someone's house or laying in bed when I should be doing homework or putting on deodorant, it's all meaningful.
Life isn't about the big picture, it's about the little things that make it up.
OMGLOLKKTHX
29-10-2004, 01:32
Yes I take gold I'll take any amount, IMO thats why it drops and I love to hear people cry.
OMGLOLKKTHX
29-10-2004, 01:36
Wow. Not to flame or anything but reading this thread shows me why I stay away from PvP. The majority of you guys sound like e-thugs who get some kind of thrill from e-killing weaker opponents like it actually means something in life. :lol: Exactly the kind of people I want to stay away from.
is about the only comment I respect.
(sorry about the double post keeps getting an error when I try to edit)
Your post alone shows that your not very great at dueling. People who are bad at dueling bring peoples real lives into it. They call the person who beat them a loser but they have to come up with a good excuse for their losing to feel good about themselves.
People play games to have fun, being better at the game usually makes it more fun. I don't play warcraft III on ladder anymore because I blow period I don't go around *****ing at everyone who beats me telling them they have no lives.
Mehatesmaphack
29-10-2004, 02:05
(sorry about the double post keeps getting an error when I try to edit)
Your post alone shows that your not very great at dueling. People who are bad at dueling bring peoples real lives into it. They call the person who beat them a loser but they have to come up with a good excuse for their losing to feel good about themselves.
People play games to have fun, being better at the game usually makes it more fun. I don't play warcraft III on ladder anymore because I blow period I don't go around *****ing at everyone who beats me telling them they have no lives.
"Not to flame or anything but reading this thread shows me why I stay away from PvP."
Good observation!! He can't be good at something he doesn't do.
BadLikeMe
29-10-2004, 02:13
If he doesn't PvP, then why does he even bother looking into the PvP forum? just to B**** at someone? Sorry, but that's just the way i see it.
OMGLOLKKTHX
29-10-2004, 02:37
"Not to flame or anything but reading this thread shows me why I stay away from PvP."
Good observation!! He can't be good at something he doesn't do.
So he just sits around in the pvp forum giving his 2 cents on stuff he knows nothing about. Horray! I have a new found respect for him. Thank you for showing me the error in my ways.
I have more than enough gold on my other chars, so I don't take gold in PvP rooms.
OMFG!!!!
Who really cares? Gold is the cheapest thing in the game. Cry Cry Cry. Give me my gold back. :lol: Accept the loss of gold. Its part of dying.
JRyan :lol:
I'm always going to end up with zero gold by the time I leave, whether I grab gold or not, so I don't bother. I'm also usually busy either looking for a new target or trying not to be the next splat on the ground.
LordDrift
29-10-2004, 06:34
yes i do, if and only if they take mine
Recently my friend Steve and I have joined games together. He's a really strong necro, and not many people can take him. So he pwns the room, then we town guard and nk anyone that tries to get their bodies.
We always loot their gold. It's not outrageous to have 800k on average, with the constant nk gold drop. I like this because I can repair my stuff and gamble on ammys to craft.
I don't really care if it's BM or not, about 90% of the room would do it to you if they were able to.
Andy2702
29-10-2004, 14:33
What makes pubby pkers real mad:
taking their 123k+ gold and saying "thnx for all that gold :thumbsup: lol"
I usually dont take gold, but only when I really need it for repair/merc....(stupid merc lol)
btw.....gold is the reward for the kill......
Cheerz,
Andy
@exxa I kill people like you and your necro buddy for fun :)
I don't bother nking, because its more funny to see you get your bodies, and then lose in 2v1. Much more embarassing for you. On the other hand, I have no problems with letting the 3-5 people you were nking take revenge while I keep them alive. Its great to see people get what they have been giving. Only problem is, they naturally leave the game when they see someone they can't beat instead of getting better by trying :(
Gold is no reward for a kill, since its so useless. Even gambling is the same going out and killing a monster. Just about the same odds of getting something nice depending on where you are. I could understand taking gold if it was generated in a 1mil pile Every time you died,which would obviously be a reward for killing someone. It is not generated though, and if you kill someone with no gold, you get nothing, so therefore its not much of a reward is it? You people act like the only reason you duel at all is to get gold. Much easier/faster to kill monsters for that.
darius_paul
29-10-2004, 14:54
Seems pretty even so far. I usually dont take it unless it was someone naking other people or they took mine first. I dont care about gold either, its just sort of annoying. Like when someone kills you and you drop 1000 gold....and they still take that!! Haha. I guess some things on bnet ill never understand...
RainofChaos220
29-10-2004, 14:55
I think it would be more interesting if they made gold actually be good for something other than repairs or occasional gamble.. would have made PvP in softcore more of a risk.
Although I must admit I gambled a few half-decent jewelry with gold I got from Public PK (10% fcr rings, tons of magic +3 ammies etc)
darius_paul
29-10-2004, 14:57
about 90% of the room would do it to you if they were able to.
Only as payback. Not "cause they can".
pivo-bob
29-10-2004, 15:06
i take money only to NK killers and other people who take my money...
Mehatesmaphack
29-10-2004, 18:31
Recently my friend Steve and I have joined games together. He's a really strong necro, and not many people can take him. So he pwns the room, then we town guard and nk anyone that tries to get their bodies.
We always loot their gold. It's not outrageous to have 800k on average, with the constant nk gold drop. I like this because I can repair my stuff and gamble on ammys to craft.
I don't really care if it's BM or not, about 90% of the room would do it to you if they were able to.
steve= eternalspirit?
Don't blame him Rauth he learned the nking from me , the gold taking from blobs. When I first met him he was what you would consider GM by CH standard.
ReVolution
29-10-2004, 21:23
i always take gold unless the guy proves to be cool.
i'm usually very BM in pubbies :O
I don't really care if it's BM or not, about 90% of the room would do it to you if they were able to.
So far I'd say it's closer to 50% than 90%. I would agree that:
1:It's just a game.
2:Even in that game it's only gold.
3:Who cares(see 1,2)
However I think that in games with no laws/government, we act in the same manner that we would in real life under similar circumstances. For example, would you steal 100,000 dollars from a bank if there was no way you would be held accountable for it? I'd say it comes down to your morals/convictions(not the aura). For people like me who belive in an afterlife, and a judgement based on what we did in life, its a simple matter of being a good person. If pissing people off (even in a stupid game) makes you happy then, good luck to you. At any rate sorry for rambling on over a stupid thing, sorry if this doesn't make any sense, and sorry if anyone was offended. In my defence I am running a temp of 103 and am a little disconnected (hooray for cold/fever meds)
:cheesy:
OMGLOLKKTHX
30-10-2004, 00:57
I love owning people who team up and think they are all godly and like 5v1 nk some random guy. Kill them all nk them all take all their gold laugh at them when they yell at me for "ambushing them". Although going out from town into traps blizz meteor hammers sounds fun, I like cp a bit better. Nothings better than owning people who think they are good then getting called an ebaying nerd or something then them "having" to leave to go "get laid".
However I think that in games with no laws/government, we act in the same manner that we would in real life under similar circumstances. For example, would you steal 100,000 dollars from a bank if there was no way you would be held accountable for it?
Actually it would be more like if you had an opportunity to steal 100,000 pennies. ;)
BadLikeMe
30-10-2004, 02:57
Actually it would be more like if you had an opportunity to steal 100,000 pennies. ;)
even 100,000 pennies is a bit high for that comparison.. maybe 1,000 pennies? what's that? $10.00?
OMGLOLKKTHX
30-10-2004, 04:11
maybe like 1 penny since you can't get anything with gold, maybe if you gamble like a couple billion you might get 1-2 decent ammys or rings.
BadLikeMe
30-10-2004, 05:04
Yeh, gotta agree with that..
No i dont usually take, i can actually make characters that are strong enough to both pvp and pvm.
but if they start taking gold ill gladly nk them till they stop drop.
OMGLOLKKTHX
30-10-2004, 20:03
No i dont usually take, i can actually make characters that are strong enough to both pvp and pvm.
but if they start taking gold ill gladly nk them till they stop drop.
When people nk me for taking their gold I rejoin get minnions and nk the whole game.
When people nk me for taking their gold I rejoin get minnions and nk the whole game.
4 words.
Yeah, and so what ?
Mehatesmaphack
30-10-2004, 22:42
So far I'd say it's closer to 50% than 90%. I would agree that:
1:It's just a game.
2:Even in that game it's only gold.
3:Who cares(see 1,2)
However I think that in games with no laws/government, we act in the same manner that we would in real life under similar circumstances. For example, would you steal 100,000 dollars from a bank if there was no way you would be held accountable for it? I'd say it comes down to your morals/convictions(not the aura). For people like me who belive in an afterlife, and a judgement based on what we did in life, its a simple matter of being a good person. If pissing people off (even in a stupid game) makes you happy then, good luck to you. At any rate sorry for rambling on over a stupid thing, sorry if this doesn't make any sense, and sorry if anyone was offended. In my defence I am running a temp of 103 and am a little disconnected (hooray for cold/fever meds)
:cheesy:
That's like asking should we commit murder if people respawned everytime they got killed? comparing d2 to real life that way is stupid. yes stealing someone else's items is still stealing especially if you know them and I consider that low and lame. But you are supposed to drop gold when you die to put something at stake it's part of the game. If you are too goodie goodie to deal with it then you shouldn't be playing a game where you are supposed to slay things in the first place.
oh wait I forgot to mention hardcore chars die for good when they die. Does that make hardcore duelers/pkers murderers in real life? lol you are a funny kid.
Mehatesmaphack
30-10-2004, 22:47
When people nk me for taking their gold I rejoin get minnions and nk the whole game.
Every time I met a necro like that I made them lose even more gold. Gotta love who those newbs think they are invulnerable when they do that.
gfattack
30-10-2004, 23:04
That's like asking should we commit murder if people respawned everytime they got killed? comparing d2 to real life that way is stupid. yes stealing someone else's items is still stealing especially if you know them and I consider that low and lame. But you are supposed to drop gold when you die to put something at stake it's part of the game. If you are too goodie goodie to deal with it then you shouldn't be playing a game where you are supposed to slay things in the first place.
oh wait I forgot to mention hardcore chars die for good when they die. Does that make hardcore duelers/pkers murderers in real life? lol you are a funny kid.
stealing gold and steal items is two completly different things man ive gotten both done to me and like i care if u are any good in the game 1 or 2 baal runs will get u ur gold back but to get ur items back that is a task
witch reminds me does anyone have a wf 4 trade?
gfattack
30-10-2004, 23:06
Every time I met a necro like that I made them lose even more gold. Gotta love who those newbs think they are invulnerable when they do that.
cant only ES scorcs take down pnb necros? or was i lead to belive the wronge thing?
obv im talking about a strong pnb necro
Mehatesmaphack
30-10-2004, 23:08
cant only ES scorcs take down pnb necros? or was i lead to belive the wronge thing?
obv im talking about a strong pnb necro
necs,wind druids,sorcs, barbs,sins,hammerdins all can take down most necs pretty easily oh and godly zons.
OMGLOLKKTHX
31-10-2004, 00:56
But necs can take out those too, well except es orb sorcs, I'm convinced there is nothing you can do against one even if your like twice as skilled as them, aside from absorb of course.
Don't act like a good minnion stacked nec can't own a regular pubby without even trying.
Mehatesmaphack
31-10-2004, 01:06
But necs can take out those too, well except es orb sorcs, I'm convinced there is nothing you can do against one even if your like twice as skilled as them, aside from absorb of course.
Don't act like a good minnion stacked nec can't own a regular pubby without even trying.
If the sorc has like 95% ene shield ,magic damage reduce and a ton of mana then yes. But most eshield sorcs I see have around 60% ish eshield which will only allow them to take a couple of hits.
OMGLOLKKTHX
31-10-2004, 02:05
If the sorc has like 95% ene shield ,magic damage reduce and a ton of mana then yes. But most eshield sorcs I see have around 60% ish eshield which will only allow them to take a couple of hits.
Thats why I said an es orber, they usually have higher because they have nothing else to put points into really. MDR isn't needed if your only taking like 15% damage already.
Mehatesmaphack
31-10-2004, 02:16
Thats why I said an es orber, they usually have higher because they have nothing else to put points into really. MDR isn't needed if your only taking like 15% damage already.
hehe if they wanna be really evil they really can be immune to your bone spells. Bring a poison nec or ow barb and make them cry lol. sorc:"oh crap my eshield doesn't do jack against poison and ow and i only have 400 life!!!."
That's like asking should we commit murder if people respawned everytime they got killed? comparing d2 to real life that way is stupid. yes stealing someone else's items is still stealing especially if you know them and I consider that low and lame. But you are supposed to drop gold when you die to put something at stake it's part of the game. If you are too goodie goodie to deal with it then you shouldn't be playing a game where you are supposed to slay things in the first place.
oh wait I forgot to mention hardcore chars die for good when they die. Does that make hardcore duelers/pkers murderers in real life? lol you are a funny kid.
Yes the idea of comparing a game to real life is a bit far fetched...see # 3
Phyrexial
31-10-2004, 02:58
I don't take gold without provocation for the very simple reason that its being needlessly annoying. If you like to be annoying for the sake of being annoying, then you are grouped in with the rest of the 99% of bnet scum. I mean, I like to hear hack accusations fly as much as the next guy, its flattering. Hence I LLD. But that's not just being annoying for the sole purpose of being annoying.
And anyone that says you needed the gold, there are plenty of other ways to get plenty of gold. I personally can get tons of gold just running Pindle and selling the random pieces of elite but worthless gear for gold, or if I really need lots of gold I can run Trav.
As for provocation, I take plenty of gold if the person shows to me that they are infact lamers. This means they nk someone, gold steal, team up against un-teamed players, etc with the exceptions of course allowing for any of the above for legitimate revenge.
Although gold is easy to earn, it is feeble to steal it. I am never surprised when it happens, as true class is very hard to find these days. The only time I would scoop it would be from the corpse of a loser who stole it from me in the first place. I hate it when rooms degenerate into tg, nk, and gs. People that perpetrate that nonsense have small wangs, low self esteem, and are powerless in real life.
i dont steal gold when i dont need it... if i see that an item is gonna break soon and i dont have any gold i go into a pubbie and steal as much as i need to repair it. otherwise i dont need any gold. i dont gamble or so
Juntertial
01-11-2004, 16:29
eh, I don't even pick it up if the person i killed had taken it from me in the first place, really, it's just gold, is it supposed to hurt my e-feelings when someone swipes it off the ground like i don't notice. I usually kill whoever takes it, but just as a lesson, if they want it so bad, come and get it :lol: what was the topic again?
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