View Full Version : My crazy idea of the week. Elemental Zealot with a twist
LovelyGods
27-10-2004, 21:08
Ok here is my idea for the week..
ive heard many people say "o boy how cool it would be if i too could make a pvp elemental zealot and make it work"
well i have anew idea for one.
People were telling me it does not work. Due to anumber of factors.
1. Not enough ar.
2. not enough elemental damage.
Solutions.
instead of fant or conc fora main aura. Use Blessed Aim.
20 Aim
20 Zeal
20 Hs
20 Defiance
rest into sacrfice.
this would make you achieve a Godly ar along with decent damage.
Only downside is you need a hell of alot of ias to make up for the no ias on aura.
which is why i have a neat idea. use gris set. yes u heard me right,griz set, the one that nobody uses because its bad damage and mods.
With this set it has enough holes that u can put some good stuff in it. Facets / Pul's / Ber's / Ias stuff.
MORE NUMBERS TO COME...
Stoutwood
27-10-2004, 21:16
You had me until you said the griz set. Please say you have another alternative.
EDIT: It does seem that the Griz caddy, Fury Phase, or Azurewrath would be the best candidates for this build. As for the rest of that set...I dunno.
LovelyGods
27-10-2004, 21:37
yea i did i jus tdid some numbers and it wont work, you would need 145 ias total to reach 4 fps.
so gris set is out.
so it seems like a Ss is a must. either that or a Ber 08 gaze.
i was going to use maybe a Eth B.Star. for several reasons.
1. it adds toar.
2. it has decent elemental damage.
3. is a mace.
4. its b.star.
maybe a EthNords. or azurwraith is a good choice.
anyone else have anysuggestions.
Anger-DRS
27-10-2004, 21:39
I tried something similar, using conviction as my main aura to maximise elemental damage and minimise the requirement of AR.
However I found that I just couldn't quite get a fast enough attack.
Garbad_the_Weak
27-10-2004, 21:39
I have an eth nords I'll sell ya. Since it gives 163% ar, perhaps you don't need blessed aim afterall?
Garbad
sk8brdnick
27-10-2004, 21:40
Why is gris out? Throw some shaels or IAS jewels in cadecus and that 145 is quite reachable...
LovelyGods
27-10-2004, 21:51
because the damage on teh weapon is poor and you would ahve to Pul Pul PUl the armor to goet Below average defense fora zealot.
It is possible to reach 145% ias with griz set, but then you are a lame duck with horrible modes. You will have hardly enough % dr, and the elemental damage will almost all have to come from charms.
Stoutwood
27-10-2004, 22:05
You need 292% IAS to hit the 4 fpa breakpoint with a Devil Star and no Fanaticism. I think you'll be limited to some kind of phase blade.
Gremlins
27-10-2004, 22:39
Ya, you need a phase for sure unless you want to limit your setup. Which as we all know, doesn't work :P
Grem
EDIT: Maybe a cruel fool's phase, or even fool's with quick? Weapon damage will be little no matter what weapon you use
I was going to try out a conviction based elemental zealot. The main problem seems to be that none of the good elemental damage weapons are particularly fast for use without fanaticism. It's not clear to me that the -90+ to defense is enough to make up for this difference in speed.
Olio
why not make a single element aura zealot, they are pretty good pvp (with alot of ar adjustment making)
Tipaklong
28-10-2004, 02:12
I'm enjoying yr discussion and curious about the Phase Blade comment, I fhave a rare PB with fools and 20 IAS, why is the damage irrelevant?
I have been working on something similiar as to what Olio said, i am usin djinn slayer and dragonscale, comes out to around 530-1001 fire dmg just from those 2 items, i am maxing as follow
zeal-20
conviction-20/or enough for 25 after gear
foh-20
holy shock-20
rest into holyshield, this will not max but with plus skills will be fine
i am using guillaumes and gores for the cb and ds, the rest is optional. as of now it kills very well considering the stated dmg is so low. it kills faster than my holyfire pally with 4 k fire and 800 norm dmg did and makes up for the low ar by lowering def class, it also adds a fully synergized foh so that i deal fire/light/norm dmg. the zeal speed is still only 5 frames though, with highlords and some ias jewels 4 frames is obtainable with djinn slayers -20 ws. im still working on perfecting it. with raven and a couple sharp charms im at 4k ar, the lower def from convition seems to makeup for it completely though.
just my 2c
mntl
Fallen Creation
28-10-2004, 02:59
What about using a Famine Phaseblade? I couldn't afford it but I'm sure some of you can make it work...
EDIT: Stupid me... Famine only works on axes/hammers...
blackplague1
28-10-2004, 05:07
i made the elementaist pally once didnt work lol i reackon if some one can work out all the negatives to this build it could be quite good but it would be hard so gl post some results later on plz i would like to see them
Gremlins
28-10-2004, 07:37
I'm enjoying yr discussion and curious about the Phase Blade comment, I fhave a rare PB with fools and 20 IAS, why is the damage irrelevant?
Not irrelevant .. but if you're going full elemental, your physical damage will do like ~2000 MAX if you're lucky, with a horrible range ... which translates to not a big deal in pvp. Especially since you won't have all the stacking mods like deadly.
Basically if your elemental doesn't cut through, you're toast.
It would be nice to see a dueler that's versatile enough to go from 75% elemental 25% physical to 75% physical and 25% elemental with a few gear (or even aura) changes ... this would throw off your opponent, especially since I haven't seen this done before.
Grem
Too Funny!!!
I am in the process of building one of these to because it has to be feaseable I feel! Any way, I have accepted that the only really weapon what will work with this buld is some form of Phase blade in order to reach the 4fpa breakpoint without totally sacrificing to much gear, I think you only need 70 IAS total with a Phase Blade. So I am curenty only around level 20 but am torn between my endgame weapon will be a Phase Blade rune word "Hand of Justiced" or "Cresent Moon"??? :scratch:
I feel unless you find a kick a$$ rare phase blade one of these two rune words are the best hope of making this build work. Just some of my thoughts but I have not finished the build yet so wish me luck.
Oh im going 4 alot of elemental charms and AR charms too!! With lavagout gloves and maybe infermo stride boots I think, wish i still had some Cow King Boots but have not seen the cow level in over a year..... :lol:
Skills I was thinking about:
20 Zeal
20 Sacrifice
20 Conviction
20 Holy Shield
1 Salvation-------Always, the best one point wonder in the game IMO!!
Rest in Blessed Aim maybe for the passive AR bonus!!!
Feed back on any of this would be cool as I have to try this build to put my mind at rest! I am working on a charger varent too that I think would rock because then you dont have to worry about weapon speed.
GO-GO Non-Cookie Cutter Builds!!!! :clap:
LovelyGods
28-10-2004, 21:27
you all missed my point.
do you realize that with most of the gear choices u all said you would have barely 15k ar. that doesn't cut it.
like i said earlyer , use MAX blessed aim for your main aura.
90% of zealots dont have max resist, therefore your damage will hurt them, if u add a few facets or some item with a - resist your golden.
also i would think that a mixture of Fire/ Light/ Cold would be inorder. This way they cna't just resist one element but rather 3, which is hard to do.
and yes a phase is in order, i was checking numbers and this is the only thing that works.
Options for weapons Phase.
A)Cresent Moon (-3x light resist might be usefull)
B) Fury ( still good, and has OW)
C) Azurwraith
D) Cruel Fools of Quick rare.
E) Cruel of Quick Rare (since u max aim, no need for fools.)
F) ???
not sure about what else could work.
right now here is my proposed skills.
20 zeal (adds to ar and some physical)
20 Aim (your main aura for pvp. adds all for your ar hopefully)
20 Hs (no explaination needed)
20 Defiance (Defense Defense Defense)
xx Sacrfice or something else....
Gear: Lets assume i can or anyone can afford this gear. Zealot is not ment for the poor pvper.
Helm: Shako (facet) ( ias jewel?)
Armor: Eth Carapiece (facet?)(ias)
Shield: SS (facet?) ( Ias)
Gloves: Bloodfist, magnus skin
boots: hsaru's
Belt : Hsaru's
ring 1. R.frost
Ring2. r.frost
Ammy. Something with elemental damgae like Rising Sun or ...well im not sure.
Two thing will happen.
1. i find that i dont have enough ar with just aim + hsarus.
2. i find that since i dont have any ar on my charms, ineed angelic + hsarus + aim.
im not sure what will happen. But i willprobably use angelic.
my goals::
30k+ ar if thats at all possible.
at least 5 k elemental damage.
30k+ defense
1800+ life.
Charms. 1 x godly anni
39 x Flaming / Shocking / Hibernal Sc of Vita / Balance. hm.. for the hell of it lets make it even = 13 x Flaming / 13 x Shocking / 13 x Hibernal.
13 x 3 = 39.
I think its possible this could work. just need to figure it out.
Stoutwood
28-10-2004, 21:41
A Shael Azurewrath coupled with Magnus Skins will give you the IAS needed for your Phase. I would suggest Ethereal Bane so you can save STR and get CBF. Also it would seems that a Verdungo's and perhaps Sandstorm Treks are in order.
Why not "Hand of Justice" in a phase blade I thought that was a good idea too??? :scratch:
Stoutwood
28-10-2004, 22:30
Why not "Hand of Justice" in a phase blade I thought that was a good idea too??? :scratch:
It is. Thanks for pointing that out.
Why not "Hand of Justice" in a phase blade I thought that was a good idea too??? :scratch:
If weapon's aura is an option, make a pvp frost zealot, using beast, just to annoy everyone in blood moor.
liqu1d_g0at
29-10-2004, 04:43
fools pb of quick shael shael shael?
you all missed my point.
do you realize that with most of the gear choices u all said you would have barely 15k ar. that doesn't cut it.
I thought some of them got it... Don't need to boost your AR, reduce their defence with conviction. Wouldn't this work, too? OK, the LCS won't show a change in AR, but AR isn't the only part of the equation.
So, as Lordjim said:
20 zeal
20 conviction
20 HShield
20 Defiance
...And put the rest into BA for the passive AR bonus if you still can't hit, or sacrifice for the physical damage bonus. Get elemental damage from charms, gear, and any little bit on a weapon fast enough for 4 frames.
This would seem to counter the problems you mentioned of not enough AR (Conv -defense) and not enough elem damage (Conv -resistance).
'Course, this is what I thought was the current "standard" PvM elemental zealot build (though without as much defense). If you were just trying to make a variant because it has been "proven" that the above will not work PvP, then I apologize for misunderstanding. I can see, as you said, that Fanat/Conc auras wouldn't work, but why wont Conv?
DudSpud
LovelyGods
29-10-2004, 21:21
erm i could be wrong on this but i think the conviction aura doesn't take away that much defense.
on the other hand in .09 it did, cuz there was no cap on - resist / defense like there is today. Which is why so many vengers pwned jsut about anyone.
with the Eth bug weapons and max conviction, all offensive aura gc, those vengers were unstoppable., one hit killers.
erm i could be wrong on this but i think the conviction aura doesn't take away that much defense.Yeah, this is a good question: is conviction enough. I am not sure. Some numbers.
Chance to Hit = 100 * AR / (AR + DR). Assume 15k AR, 50K def. Assume alvl=dlvl because it has the same effect on both numbers.
Without Conv:
Cth = 100 * (15k / (15K + 50K)) = 23% chance
With slvl 20 Conv (-90% DR):
Cth = 100 * (15k / (15k + 5K)) = 75% chance
Please check my numbers and assumptions. Either way, seems like big dip in defense to me, and the ultimate question should be/probably has been tested (Lordjim?): does Conv's -def make up for low AR in PvP?
DudSpud
I thought conviction would work but on double checking it it seems that it would be nearly useless. It appears to take off 90% of your base defense and to just be added in with all your other defense related adjustments. Thus it makes a massive 910% Holy shield into a mere 810% holy shield. Anyone know for sure if this is correct?
Olio
Fallen Creation
30-10-2004, 01:57
I don't have exact numbers, but I distinctly remember my defense still remaining at an alright level even after a lvl 20ish Conviction.
AbbaZabba
30-10-2004, 15:00
I had used a similar build in 09....At the time I used Zeal/conviction/foh....I had great luck with a Lightsabre back the. After the patch I changed over to a Crecent Moon Phase. That weapon is BOSS. I can assume that with faucete'd gear alone, the level of chain lightening could do damage in pvp. It cast static, for some reason has charges of spirit wolf (pvp body shield) and Ignore Target defense (which probally still only works pvm). I have a barb merc, and he uses an etheral crecent moon bb, a delirum, and a fauceted shaft. He is the best crowd controller ever. I assume a similar build for a character could work.
Just my 2 cents ;)
J
*Edit* On Further reading, I noticed a comment about conviction. As a pure pally player Im saddened to inform you that conviction only removes a small amount of defense (my 23 k turns to 19k def). Olio is correct in his calculations for defense adjustment.
Not that I don't trust you, AbbaZabba, but I did some more research on this...
Sadly, from what I have read in other tech fora, you seem to be correct. Conviction reduces the +% defense, so a lvl 20 HShield/defiance running PvP pally (and what self respecting PvPer wouldn't have this?) will have the + defence reduced from +710% to +620%. So Conviction is probably not the only part of the answer for Lovelygods.
Oddly, the research I saw suggested that the -25% def from eth, other items works this way too. So I wonder about the "eth" bug everyone talks about. Guess it was patched.
Still, maybe boosting ar passively through BA (+100% at slvl 20) combined with Conviction will help... Nah, probably not.
Lovelygods, have you tried your build, and did it work?
DudSpud
A Shael Azurewrath coupled with Magnus Skins will give you the IAS needed for your Phase.
I think you'll be 5% IAS short to get a 4fpa zeal (actually 2%, acording to the calculator)
I think a visionary rare/crafted visionary helm would fit perfectly in this build.
LovelyGods
31-10-2004, 00:25
no i didn't try it yet.
it will cost me hella lot, to pay for those charms that are required.
but it would be nice if sombody would try it out.
remember dont use conviction, use AIM for ur aura. With AIM u should get enough ar to sustain good hit ratio
Instead of Blessed Aim, why not fanatism?
That way you could use another kind of weapon, such as nords (with good elemental damage and huge bonus to AR) or Bstar, but I think a good nord's is better, since it needs less IAS to reach 4-frame zeal.
you loose half the bonus to AR using fanatism, but you can gain it (almost) with nord's and you get a nice boost to physical damage too.
you all missed my point.
do you realize that with most of the gear choices u all said you would have barely 15k ar. that doesn't cut it.
like i said earlyer , use MAX blessed aim for your main aura.
90% of zealots dont have max resist, therefore your damage will hurt them, if u add a few facets or some item with a - resist your golden.
also i would think that a mixture of Fire/ Light/ Cold would be inorder. This way they cna't just resist one element but rather 3, which is hard to do.
and yes a phase is in order, i was checking numbers and this is the only thing that works.
Options for weapons Phase.
A)Cresent Moon (-3x light resist might be usefull)
B) Fury ( still good, and has OW)
C) Azurwraith
D) Cruel Fools of Quick rare.
E) Cruel of Quick Rare (since u max aim, no need for fools.)
F) ???
not sure about what else could work.
right now here is my proposed skills.
20 zeal (adds to ar and some physical)
20 Aim (your main aura for pvp. adds all for your ar hopefully)
20 Hs (no explaination needed)
20 Defiance (Defense Defense Defense)
xx Sacrfice or something else....
Gear: Lets assume i can or anyone can afford this gear. Zealot is not ment for the poor pvper.
Helm: Shako (facet) ( ias jewel?)
Armor: Eth Carapiece (facet?)(ias)
Shield: SS (facet?) ( Ias)
Gloves: Bloodfist, magnus skin
boots: hsaru's
Belt : Hsaru's
ring 1. R.frost
Ring2. r.frost
Ammy. Something with elemental damgae like Rising Sun or ...well im not sure.
Two thing will happen.
1. i find that i dont have enough ar with just aim + hsarus.
2. i find that since i dont have any ar on my charms, ineed angelic + hsarus + aim.
im not sure what will happen. But i willprobably use angelic.
my goals::
30k+ ar if thats at all possible.
at least 5 k elemental damage.
30k+ defense
1800+ life.
Charms. 1 x godly anni
39 x Flaming / Shocking / Hibernal Sc of Vita / Balance. hm.. for the hell of it lets make it even = 13 x Flaming / 13 x Shocking / 13 x Hibernal.
13 x 3 = 39.
I think its possible this could work. just need to figure it out.
Ive been trying to make an elemental zealot using conviction as my main aura see thread:
http://forums.rpgforums.net/showthread.php?t=264618
and as you stated in your first post, I realized that I didn't have enough AR to even come close to hitting majority of the zealots that i dueled. I dont have much experience in pvp and I thought that conviction would work fine but when i dueled other zealots i noticed that with conviction aura active their defense didn't go down as much as i thought it would. It basically took like a few hundred def as oppose to thousands that i thought it might with the -90% from conviction. Anyway I ended up making a really expensive weapon thinking that ITD worked in pvp ( dont laugh I admit I am a newbie) see thread:
http://forums.rpgforums.net/showthread.php?t=274872
Anyway after getting my *** handed to me over and over I came across your thread and I thought that maybe your variant would work and I am still very interested in making my pally work hopefully with the use of my famine. My first build looks like this:
LawfulEvil
LvL:80
Skills:
20 Zeal
20 Sacrifice
20 HS
20 Conviction
1 Salvation
1 Redemption and pre-requirements
Base stats:
Str: 125
Dex: 130
Vit: 225
Eng: base
Equipment:
Famine warspike
Perfect gaze with 15Ias jewel/ Orphan call set helm
Leviathan/Duress scarab husk
Perfect strings
5%bk
Near perfect ravenfrosts
Highlords
Magus skin gloves
Goreriders
Hoz
I had gimmers as back up for pvm and I sometimes used and upgraded Tiamat rebuke shield thinking that the added elemental damage would work better for me. I didn't get around to trading for elemental charms because I wanted to be sure that my setup would somewhat work before I invested any more into this guy. Anway I have a few questions for you Lovelygods:
1. You mentioned that a phase blade will only work but using the weapon speed calculator i can reach 5 frames with 42 Ias is that too slow for pvp?
2. The reason why i went with Orphan helm/glove/duress/gores was for the crushing blow, open wounds, deadlystrike etc but after testing i realized that i need DR to survive so I took off the helm and armor and replaced it with Levi and a Gaze. Should i just scratch that and go with all DR and AR gear like you mentioned?
3. From most zealot guides, they suggest that you invest little or none into dex (as long as you have max block with HS) but most duelers tell me that they pump their dex and keep their life around 1k is that a good way to go?
4. And is life leech even worth it to get for pvp? Is it nerfed like everything else when you go pvp and that is why some have no leech at all in their gear setup?
Majority of the zealots use DR gear and they expect other zealots to be dishing out massive physical damage as oppose to elemental damage but I hoping that with your build I can survice long enough to deal enough elemental damage to make a difference. Sorry for the long post and thanks in advance.
blackplague1
09-12-2004, 12:41
this build is looking very interesting to me if u can get it to work i think it would be very very affective i hapen to have one of those phaze blades ^^
Lawfulevil is lvl 18 at the moment. I wish Lovely was around to comment but since he isn't ill just have to test and retest by making several characters until i come up with a good variant.
If it does work out, ill report back and maybe build a guide giving credit to lovely or something.
Euro-Crash
09-12-2004, 15:38
This is not altogether unreasonable. I have been experiencing a moderate lvl of success using my Frost Zealot in PvP. His skill points:
-20 Holy Freeze
-20 Res. Cold
-20 Salvation
-20 Zeal
-15 Sacrifice
-1 Holy Shield (pre-req's)
His gear runs in basically four setups:
-Polar Bear aka Chilly Willy - 13K AR, ~20K Defense
-1/30/15 CoA (CHAM)
-Angelic Ammy
-5/5 Cold SS
-CoH Archon
-30/10 Dungo
-Magnus Skin
-2 x Angelic Rings
-BoTD PB
-Up'd Gorerider
-10 x Offensive Aura GC's
-Annihilus
-Various small charms
-BM Frosty - 20K AR, 20K Defense
-BEAST Caduceus (+1 HF)
-EXILE Vortex w/Resists
-Angelic Amulet
-CoH Archon
-Magnus Skin
-30/10 Dungo
-1/30/15 CoA (CHAM)
-2 x Angelic Rings
-Up'd Gorerider
-10 x Offensive GC's
-Annihilus
-Various small charms
-Super-Cold Frosty (using facets) - TBD
-DOOM Berserker Axe (60%)
-20/5 Nightwing
-Angelic Amulet
-20/5 Ormus
-30/10 Dungo
-Magnus Skin
-5/5 Stormshield
-Up'd Gorerider
-2 x Angelic Rings
-10 x Offensive GC's
-Annihilus
-Various small charms
PvM (PvP versus weak opponents) - 5K AR, ~12K Defense
-Guillame's Face (15 IAS)
-2/2 Seraph's Hymn
-CoH Archon
-Up'd HoZ (15 IAS)
-3/2 Heaven's Light (SHAEL+JAH)
-BK Band
-Ravenfrost
-Arachnid Mesh
-Dracul's Grasp
-Up'd Gorerider
-10 x Offensive GC's
-Annihilus
-Various small charms
It seems that with an elemental build AR is an issue. This is why you would want to max Zeal. Also, since your opponent may have high resistance to cold you would want to try to maximize your physical damage output. I have 5 more levels until this is done.
As for AR and HP issues...if it is permissible, I have a Demonlimb kept in the stash for prebuff. Also on hand are a 6/5/2 CTA Flail and a Lidless Wall. This gives a good boost to AR and lvl 16 BO. It has been working with moderate success.
I have tested the Polar Bear and found it to be viable. I have also tested the BM Frosty and found it viable as well. Versus weak opponents the PvM set-up is adequate. Play testing tonight will determine results of Super-Cold Frosty.
Hey Euro long time no post, good to hear from you and thanks for your 411 :)
Euro-Crash
09-12-2004, 16:53
Hey Euro long time no post, good to hear from you and thanks for your 411 :)
NP. Been busier than a one-legged man in an a** kicking contest at work these days. You had asked about using HoJ along with conviction if I am not mistaken...right?
Anyway, HOLY FREEZE is probably the most viable option for PvP. Not because of the damage, but because of ONE thing. If you slow your opponent down by 58%, you stand less of a chance of being hit.
If you can increase your swing rate to outswing your opponent and increase your AR to be capable of landing blows, you stand a good chance to win as long as you MAZIMIZE the damage you deal and MINIMIZE the effects of damage dealt to you.
Hence, if a BM set-up is used, it is possible to defeat the standard BM Zealot equipped with DOOM and maxed Fanaticism. This is due to the minimal effects of the lvl 12 HF aura WITHOUT synergies.
Versus a BoTD Zealot it is an uphill battle, but not impossible to win. Forcing opponents into making gear sacrifices by using -60% Doom, 20/5 Nightwing, 20/5 Ormus and 5/5 SS (or equipment with similar effects), you have the potential to reduce enemy resistance to cold by 75% and to increase your elemental damage output by 45%.
Quite possibly this can bring an opponent with 95 resist all to 20; an opponent with 75 resist all to ZERO; and any opponent with less than 75 resist all into negative resistance.
I have found that the high average damage "pings" are capable of defeating opponents with low or negative resistance to cold. This is WITHOUT using items that add cold damage or reduce enemy resistance to cold. I am testing the hypothesis that using such items will be capable of defeating people with moderate or low cold resistance within 2 to 3 "pings".
Some may consider this a "poor" tactic and still others would say it is "BM". I however fail to see how it is. If a sorceress can one-hit KO you with a Fireball or Blizzard, why shouldn't an Elemental Zealot be capable of one-hit KO'ing you with a ping from their aura?
blackplague1
09-12-2004, 22:56
kinnda getting away from the point we are trying to make a pally using vengence ^^
Euro-Crash
09-12-2004, 23:05
kinnda getting away from the point we are trying to make a pally using vengence ^^
I believe the thread was referring to an "Elemental Zealot". The purpose of this thread was to explore the PvP of such a Zealot. An Elemental Zealot is one who uses Zeal to deal elemental damage.
Exploring the use of Vengeance would actually fall off the topic as it would be an effort to determine the viability of a PvP Avenger and not an Elemental Zealot. If the purpose of the thread is to explore the use of elemental attacks as a paladin, then it should have been so titled.
I offered something I felt to be worthy of exploration in the PvP realm, being that it was on the same lines as the title of the thread. Rather than discussing the issue further and exploring the PvP viability of an Elemental Zealot, you tell me I am getting away from the point.
At this point I do not see any purpose of contributing at all. I read the thread, the title of the thread, and the posts contained within and offered something I felt was on-topic. Thank you for your correction...apparently this thread has been titled inappropriately.
If you wish to build an Elemental Zealot, then why is a discussion of Vengeance taking place? I read the thread concerning paladin sub-classes, and I do believe Zealot implies the use of the Zeal attack...not Vengeance.
inkanddagger
10-12-2004, 15:15
I was going to make one on west for temple back when people here were offering to help me out with the gear, Unfortunately only one person actually helped me out with gear, which a lot of it is useful, but it isnt enough to make anything that is able to duel.
Maxing blessed aim is a good idea, but using it as a main aura - I don't think it would work quite as well as you think.
Here was my idea for the build: (I had two setups planned)
max Zeal, Blessed Aim, Holy Shield, Defiance, rest into Conviction
Sigons helm, light facet
sigons gloves
-----------------------
You now have 30 ias, and a massive AR bonus from the helm
-----------------------
Gladiators Bane, light facet
Stormshield, light facet
IK boots - 100 ar, 44 life, 40 faster run/walk. nice stats for boots
Verdungos
angelic rings, ammy
Azurewrath, shael
39 elemental damage small charms (elemental/attack rating would be godly here), anni.
this hits four frame attack, has massive attack rating bonuses, very nice elemental damage (already 800ish ele, 500 magic before charms), would hit decent defense.
The other setup was just moderately modified, and would max the following skills:
Zeal, Blessed Aim, Holy Shield, Resist Fire, rest into conviction.
Main point here is to use the weapon: HoJ Phase Blade. With defensive aura maxed, the level 16 holy fire aura on the runeword adds over 500 fire damage. I am not sure if this fire damage is modified by the +dmg on fire facets as mastery, but I am assuming that it would work, and even if it didnt work, 500 fire damage with -20 fire res added in is still better than using azurewrath IMO.
Sigons helm, 15ias, 100 ar jewel
sigons gloves
Gladiators Bane, fire facet
Stormshield, fire facet
IK boots - 100 ar, 44 life, 40 faster run/walk. nice stats for boots
Verdungos
angelic rings, ammy
39 elemental damage small charms, anni.
The HoJ setup has bigger potential than the azurewrath setup because HoJ will have higher physical damage, some deadly strike, additional -resitances.
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