View Full Version : Shako vs Nightwing for blizz-fireball sorc
Rendalli
16-10-2004, 01:33
Just curious which is better for a blizz sorc..as i just found a nightwing although with only 8% cold damage.
mf is not an issue as I already have chars for this. Its really just a question of survivabilty, damage isnt that important.
Any opinions would be appreciated.
Rendalli
16-10-2004, 23:49
ok...to put it another way..if you had a blizzard-fireball sorc and you had no inclanation to magic find with it.
Would you rather use a shako or nightwing's veil?
Opinions Welcome ;)
insane_knights
16-10-2004, 23:56
which skill you use as your main and which as your backup?
evild2player
17-10-2004, 00:01
8% isnt a major difference, I would go for shako for the mana/life bonuses.
Rendalli
17-10-2004, 00:13
Blizzard Main .. Fireball/meteor Back up
I would still use harlequin. the 50% mf and life / mana boost are worth more to me then a "mere" 8% more dmg. With a 3k blizzard or so this means 240 more dmg. That's not all that much really. Nightwings to me is a pvp helmet , where you use alot more %cold skill dmg.
TheGreatDivorce
17-10-2004, 11:29
Blizzard + another tree is useless. Go with the Harly because you will need the Damage Reduction and Life/Mana mods simply because you won't be able to kill with the same velocity a Nightwing'd single element Blizzard/Orb Sorceress could.
Pimpin Dream Girl
17-10-2004, 17:35
Blizzard + another tree is useless.
I concur. :worship:
Gilean82
18-10-2004, 01:42
Except when you run into those pesky cold immunes. 33% of hell monsters are, btw. GG!
((No, that wasn't sarcastic. No I don't hate those "l00k @ my 13231332 bliz dmg! Damn...died again to a cold immune".))
For a dual tree sorc, Shako's hard to beat. Maybe a full tal's set, since it absolutely owns any unique set up...even the hoto/shako combo.
JC
Cybulski
19-10-2004, 15:29
eh tals set is basicly useless for sorcs in pvp.
Optimised gear for your specific build is allways better.
Summoned
19-10-2004, 15:43
eh tals set is basicly useless for sorcs in pvp.
Optimised gear for your specific build is allways better.
Somehow, I just don't think that this is a pvp build anyway. :scratch:
For PvM a Shako is way better than a Nightwings. Most monsters die with 1 or 2 blizzard shards anyway, so the 8% difference from a Nightwings is not going to make any difference. The life and mana boost from the Harly is way better
Rendalli
20-10-2004, 00:04
well......I think you'll all be happy to hear that I have gone with the good ol Shako!
Nightwings would have been good if it had been perfect and socketed with a 5/5 cold facet!
Except when you run into those pesky cold immunes. 33% of hell monsters are, btw. GG!
((No, that wasn't sarcastic. No I don't hate those "l00k @ my 13231332 bliz dmg! Damn...died again to a cold immune".))
For a dual tree sorc, Shako's hard to beat. Maybe a full tal's set, since it absolutely owns any unique set up...even the hoto/shako combo.
JC
Considering the majority of HC players use single tree sorcs, I think that the CI's arent really a problem.
Dennis_KoreanGuy
25-10-2004, 02:14
Just curious which is better for a blizz sorc..as i just found a nightwing although with only 8% cold damage.
mf is not an issue as I already have chars for this. Its really just a question of survivabilty, damage isnt that important.
Any opinions would be appreciated.
Heh... I never get ppl with not fully synergized blizz...
I would DEFINITELY go for shako, no matter if blizz is your main skill or not, because not only is it cheaper with lots of +life +mana, it gives 2 to ALL skill which means your fb and blizz will both be going up.
Not going through all those synergy maths and all, nightwing gives you 3 in blizz, shako gives 2 fb / 2 blizz. 2+2>3 common math no? :D I could always be wrong though, and it depends on what you use most.
P.S. From what I have seen, ppl use blizz / fb mostly against pvm and I find fb highly more effective at pvm than blizz, unless accompanied by hi lvl merc.
- Dennis
chessman4991
25-10-2004, 02:51
Heh... I never get ppl with not fully synergized blizz...
I would DEFINITELY go for shako, no matter if blizz is your main skill or not, because not only is it cheaper with lots of +life +mana, it gives 2 to ALL skill which means your fb and blizz will both be going up.
Not going through all those synergy maths and all, nightwing gives you 3 in blizz, shako gives 2 fb / 2 blizz. 2+2>3 common math no? :D I could always be wrong though, and it depends on what you use most.
P.S. From what I have seen, ppl use blizz / fb mostly against pvm and I find fb highly more effective at pvm than blizz, unless accompanied by hi lvl merc.
- Dennis
Uhh, which nightwing's are you talking about? The one on this (http://www.battle.net/diablo2exp/items/elite/uhelms.shtml) page has +2 to all skills, just like shako. Anyway, I think shako wins for a dual-tree sorc.
Dennis_KoreanGuy
25-10-2004, 03:23
Uhh, which nightwing's are you talking about? The one on this (http://www.battle.net/diablo2exp/items/elite/uhelms.shtml) page has +2 to all skills, just like shako. Anyway, I think shako wins for a dual-tree sorc.
LmAo I'm sorry I got messed up in the facts... hm... I don't know how I can think so I even have one on my own... Scratch my earlier post :D.
- Dennis
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