WWS sockets

[Koop]

Search function is broke, i went quite a few pages in but couldnt find any info, sorry if theis has been asked too many times.

I was wondering what to socket into my WWS. I was thinking 2 shael (like everyone else) but since alot of people complain about low dmg, i was thinkign maybe 2 15 max jewels or maybe a max and a shael. I have 55% outside ias from cats, gloves, and ias jewel. I also have a +8 max +6 min jewel with 6% ED.

Any suggestions?

[Wmeredith]

The damage on a WWS isn't bad at all, especially considering the mods it comes with. It's also a pretty fast bow in the first place. I would use 2 15ias magic jewels with some other damage mod on them. Preferably +min damage. This is why:
-One of the WWS's greatest strengths is it super tight damage range. Compared to, say, a WF. The WF has a wildly inconsistant actual strike damage: it's like, a 400 point range or something. This is one reason you won't notice much of a difference in actual kill speed when switching between an uWWS and a WF. The uWWS is faster and has a really tight damage range. (Not to mention the DS and Amp.) So I would use min damage in the WWS to make it deadly consistant.

BTW, I wouldn't use a +% ed on any bow considering that they all have such weenie base damage anyway. +min or max is your friend here. :thumbsup:
This is Especially when you consider the DEX/Damage bonus you're getting with your zon(1% DEX= 1% enhanced damage), which will stack on top of Min. Max. Damage modifiers. (It won't stack with %enhanced damage) modifiers.

[adddm]

The 9/3 ias breakpoint is 63 and the 9/2 breakpoint is 86 for WWS. Given you already have 55 ias, two shaels won't get you to 9/2 (which would only be helpful if you're strafing anyway). Thus, put one shael (or 15% ias jewel with 2nd mod if you have one) in one socket to get you to 9/3 breakpoint. The second socket can be used for +max dam jewel, nef for knockback, eth for -25% def (reverse help for your AR) or even elemental damage jewels/gems.

[XZON]

The 9/3 ias breakpoint is 63 and the 9/2 breakpoint is 86 for WWS. Given you already have 55 ias, two shaels won't get you to 9/2 (which would only be helpful if you're strafing anyway). Thus, put one shael (or 15% ias jewel with 2nd mod if you have one) in one socket to get you to 9/3 breakpoint. The second socket can be used for +max dam jewel, nef for knockback, eth for -25% def (reverse help for your AR) or even elemental damage jewels/gems.

55 + 40 (2 SHAELS) = 95 = ABOVE 86 THUS 9/2 BREAKPOINT. SHAEL & 15% WITH 2ND MOD WOULD HIT 90 WHICH IS STILL 9/2. SOME PEOPLE LIKE THE 8/2 BREAK WHICH IS AT 105. YOU COULD DUAL SHAEL & THROW ON GOLDWRAP FOR 8/2.

[Koop]

I know i shouldnt use ed, its just a have a rare jewel +8 max +6 min and it also has +6% dmg as an added bonus ;).

Thx for feedback.

Also, is it really worth it to hit 9/2, or is 9/3 acceptable?

[Justmade]

Also, is it really worth it to hit 9/2, or is 9/3 acceptable?
To my understanding
9/2 mean the 1st error and finishing of a strafe action use 9 frames and there each additional arrow use 2 frames.

So, for a ten arrow strafe

9/3 = 9 + (3 * 9) = 36 frames per strafe
9/2 = 9 + (2 * 9) = 27 frames per strafe
8/2 = 8 + (2 * 9) = 26 frames per strafe

Am I correct ?

If so, I think 9/2 is an important imporvement over 9/3 while 8/2 is a slight imporvement.

[Lunatic]

Frankly , for that extra 30% IAS (calculating with 90% IAS for 9/2 strafe is easier:D) you could use some extra dmg equipment , which prolly results in more dmg then getting up to 8/2 strafe.

Lets say you have 8/2 strafe (26 frames) & 9/2 strafe (27 frames) and all arrows hit , which means you do a total of 20,000 dmg (or 2000 per arrow , this is some fictive number). This means with 9/2 strafe you do 741 dmg per frame. With 8/2 it's 770 dmg per frame. In order to do the same dmg with 9/2 strafe instead of 8/2 strafe you need 29 dmg per frame. For each arrow this is 76 dmg.

So frankly , if you can get 2076 strafe dmg with 9/2 strafe , it's the same as 2000 strafe dmg with 8/2 strafe. With that 30% IAS saved it's really not hard to get that extra 76 dmg.

40% bow + 20% amu + 20% gloves + 10% belt = free helmet / armor slots. Or you could use another amu + belt , and put an IAS jewel in armor / helmet. With 120% IAS you need to use both the amu + belt + 15% IAS helmet and armor. And I'm no big fan of using a 60% IAS armor for strafe. There are alot better armors out there then that.

ps.
Take in mind that I had to round off some numbers , so they might be off by 1 or 2 or so. But you get a general idea of how little that extra frame does for strafe.

[Shanksie1337]

haha Luny, i am saying nothing :D

And i fully agree, a 40ed jewel in a wf is hardly noticeable, it will be even less significant on a uWWS. If it were me i'd Shael IAS+mod it and leave it there if you are happy with the gear that provides the 55 IAS.

[Lunatic]

hehehe. I sense some deja-vu.:cool:

[XZON]

what is the 30% that luny is talking about. 90% for 9/2 (actually 86% but really the same thing) and I thought 105% was the 8/2. That's only 15% more. Looks like you're using 120% for 8/2. As shanksie said, shael with 15% ias / 2nd mod would be fine for me.

Overall 8/2 does not do much more damage over time than 9/2 but you do react noticably quicker with the first arrow.

[Lunatic]

what is the 30% that luny is talking about. 90% for 9/2 (actually 86% but really the same thing) and I thought 105% was the 8/2. That's only 15% more. Looks like you're using 120% for 8/2. As shanksie said, shael with 15% ias / 2nd mod would be fine for me.

Overall 8/2 does not do much more damage over time than 9/2 but you do react noticably quicker with the first arrow.
Sorry , I did mean 105% IAS. But even then , I think in most cases you're better off with 9/2 then with 8/2.

For an mf ama , you can get some more %mf. For pvm you can get alittle more resist / dmg / ar (or whatever you desire). The only time I would say 8/2 is better is when you're making a FA / strafe hybrid (Or some other hybrid which uses any other bowskill). But then only when you're using FA just as much as strafe. Because when you use 9 or 8 frames for a single attack , the dmg increase of that 1 frame is worth it IMHO.