Can level 9 Valk survive at hell?

[Kilari]

I was just wondering if level 9 Valkyrie is a decent tank at hell. I've read that most people prefer level 17 Valkyrie but I probably can get it only to level 9. Shall I rather invest my skill points elsewhere or make a level 9 Valkyrie?
(And sadly enough this [level 9] seems to be with the +skills from items)

And another question: (totally different topic)
If I invest 20 points into Strafe will I have enough ar with upped WWS (remember level 20 magic arrow) to kill decently? My char is a javazon and I'm planning to use Strafe as li-killer.

Another question is whether I should put less skills to Strafe and more to Valk..?


EDIT: The topic ought to be "Can level 9 Valk survive at hell?"

[Shanksie1337]

lvl 9 Valk - maybe, depends on where u are playing. She will do ok in the pits until she encounters archers, and the same on a Baal run with those frenzy things. But she is recastable, so i'd say she was worth it.

Strafe / AR - you'll need some into penetrate, and/or a Demon Limb, if it were me i'd take some of the points from LF synergies to give your char a more balanced look. (more valk, more penetrate etc).

Strafe/Valk - as above, i'd be putting more into these and less into LF synergies, but then i prefer a balanced char. I know some ppl like silly LF damage but it simply isn't needed. My hybrid has ~1-1200 LF and she kills very fast on Cows/Baal etc

[Kilari]

Thanks for the input.

The problem is that I've already put 20 to LF, CS and LS. :D
I agree that balanced char is nice but what is done is done. In the beginning I planed to make a hybrid with 20 LF, CS, FA and CA but I got greedy during the progress. ;D

Btw, how much ar would I get with Strafe and WWS? (Assuming that I don't have great sources of ar in my equip. Maybe Ravenfrost..)

And is it a reasonable idea to have level, say, 10-15 Strafe? (without my equip, which will give ~6 skills, so basically 15-20) I.E. is the killing speed still sufficient?


Oh, and one question more:
Why don't I see my ar whilst using my javelins in character screen?
It is shown when I swap to bow but not when I use my javas..

[Shanksie1337]

the ar would depend on your dex, so the dex/vita balance you choose will have some impact on your AR. Seeing as you have already wasted (imo) those skill points, i'd suggest playing with no Valk as you will need some AR to make strafe worthwhile. Unless u change bow to an Eaglehorn or something else with ITD.
(kinda glad i ask the questions before i spend the points :) )

Strafe is better maxxed as you get a damage bonus, if you can't max it, then maybe MS is the way to go.

This is a guess - but the reason i think you don't see an AR total when using LF is that LF is auto hit, so no AR check (tho the physical leechable jav does have an AR roll, so i am confused).

EDIT - yup i am right, you are using 2 skills that both auto hit - LF & CS for example. To see your AR for the physical javelin select "throw" skill and that will show an ar total.

(i have LF on right, and Jab on left - so i get an AR total for jab, but not for LF).

[mgill1772]

i pipe up my 2 cents.....

I typically make hybrid zons anymore, quite a few since the patch has come.

On my current ladder project, I'm using 1 pt valk which translates into a lvl 9 valk with equip. She works well as a tank, not so much of a killer but i prefer it that way. So i say you should get her.

On a side note, I like to play with max lf, cs, and fa. I sprinkle a few into multi and ca, passives and a lil more light points to increase cs a lil more. pretty fun char...

[The_Worst]

I think your lightning skills are fine. 3 synergies really help with boss killing. For ar just use a demon limb for enchant or use lava gouts. The light immune guys which are mostly annoying storm casters and some undead knights, thrashers, and my worst nightmare, the LI frenzytaurs, can be dealt with a decoy, merc, and even a weak valk. I have a hybrid java zon with 20 in CA and 20 in FA. Her fury is fine but with 2 synergies, boss killing takes a while with CS. I think i would have prefered a zon more like yours with wws. I recently built and all light amazon with no valk and she is doing fine w/o slow missle, decoy or valk with a might merc to tank. She is a tank herself so no valk is doable.