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raccaboo
04-10-2004, 21:41
Anyone got any good under lvl 30 pvp/pk assassin builds for HC?
Anyone got any good under lvl 30 pvp/pk assassin builds for HC?
Level 25-27 kicksin:
Skills:
Max Dragon talon
1 point in dragon flight (extra points go here)
4 in burst of speed (will be 6 with items, giving 39% ias)
1 in prereq. to these skills.
gear:
3 perfect rubied
4 perfect rubied armor OR artisans armor of life with 3x p rubies. (i use 1x perf amythiest 3x perf ruby because i like the cololr purple)
Angelics amulet and 2 rings
Bloodfists gloves
deaths belt
Sigons tower shield with "eld" rune in it
"strength" runeworded Blade talon, kris or schimitar (it must be -20 attack speed for the right ias breakpoint to be met) I suggest 2 socket blade talon (runeword is Amn-tir)
Two +1 assasin skills claws on switch (for casting burst of speed)
Rare/magical War boots. They must be war boots for maximum damage. You can get a good 20%faster run, +stats rare pair or just grab some magical crap ones.
Charms:15 life smalls, +5 str/dex larges and a few elemental (cold damage) to suit your needs. Max damage charms and jewels dont work with this build.
Keep in mind that Max damage jewels and charms dont affect kick damage, so be happy you dont have to gather tons of expensive jewels/charms. Elemental damage (from charms) will affect kick damage but it will not show up on listed damage. THis can be verified by kicking things and the elemental attack will show up. Enhanced damage jewels do work with this build, but they add very little damage. I find that if you want a damage boost, Switch from a 3 p rubied helm to a 3 P amythiested helm, this will add about 60 to max damage.
Stats with this build should be....
125 strengh with all gear on (just enough for boots)
Enough dex for max block (75%)
ALL vitality, put the remainging points in here
None energy.
A few tips when dueling:
Before a duel, switch to the +1 assasin skill claws and cast (level 7) burst of speed. Switch back to "strength" weapon and sigons shield.
Chargers are easy to kill. There are a few ways of really nailing them. I suggest saving your dragon flight (teleport kick) for the end of the duel, to surprise them. You can wait for them in a corner, when they charge you, block them and Dragon talon them. They should either die, exit, or run away. If they run away, Dragon flight right on top of them then dragon talon as fast as you can. That should definately finish em off.
If you know your opponent uses chicken (Exits instantly when you kick them) just forget it. If you really hate them, get your friend to enchant you, then kill em in 1 hit.
When dueling other kickers, its important to try to dragon talon them at all times. Be the first to attack and be aggressive.
level 30-50 sorcs are very easy to kill, unless they are especially made for dueling. Keep a 3 perfect diamonded shield in your stash to give you max resists against these ladies. They usually have low life and will die if you get a lucky hit.
A good idea is to get a Pimp merc. Act 2 might mercs or A5 barb mercs are my favorite. Give him a high damage ethereal weapon. Honor runeword is level 27 and has amazing mods.
have fun killing everyone with a dirt cheap build
0takuPryd3
04-10-2004, 21:53
I won't go into depth, but the best choice for around that level is a level 25/26 dragon talon assassin. You want to max dragon talon, get one point in dragon flight and then 5 (if I recall correctly) points into Burst of Speed. For items use 'strength' blade talons (amn + tir, must be blade talons or another weapon of equal attack speed), 'Eld' sigon's or umbral disk as a shield, 4 pruby armor (some use twitchthroe), 3 pruby helm, angelic rings and amulet, death's sash, bloodfist, and finally get some war boots with faster run walk, +str, +dex or anything that will help your build out. If you can't get any, any war boots will do.
To fight, you just dragon talon the **** out of your enemy. Against other sins, you wanna hit them before they hit you. Run around and be the first to dragon flight and immediately dragon talon them. Not much point in these duels unless the other person is being such an idiot that you want to fight them.
For sorcs, just dodge their attacks and then dragon flight in and kill.
Pretty much the same deal with other classes, but they main reason to make this build is to kill chargers. Don't stand next to a wall... the chargers will cry and call you cheap. plus, you can be dragged away from the wall. The best way is to run around ponds and rocks so that they can't charge you. When you think the time is right, dragon flight and talon them until they chicken because everyone knows that all chargers have chicken. Careful, though... they can hurt very badly if they land a charge.
Well, that's all I have to say. I'm sure Sip or someone will come by and correct me and add more. Someone also might tell you about the low level (9-15 or something like that) ts assassin. I think they use your standard max damage stuff and all that along with cleglaw's sword as a weapon. Not quite sure, though.
EDIT: I guess I've already been beaten. Anyway, my tip is to not waste time searching for +1 skill claws. I just get to level 26, and then I have the proper BoS speed, max dtalon, dflight and I'm still in Normal so I don't have to search for dueling games with a mule.
HelzCaretaker
06-10-2004, 05:05
its funny to see those that don't truly know how to make a kicker post. Anyways depending on you charms you can make either a high dmg kicker or a kicker like they describe OR my custom build kicker.
Basically heres the thing, if you have 30+ 13-15 life sc's then you can go with what I call the titan kicker build, basically I prefer twitch over 4 socket armor, socketed with ruby, and helm either 3 socket helm with rubies or face of horror with pruby. Gear is as follows, strength wpn, twitch/helm angelic ammy/rings, rare war boots preferably with run/walk and resists, bfists, rare st/life belt (can't be frozen isn't very important for kickers), ideal shield is a tower shield of deflecting with 2 20% ed jewels, and on switch a tower shield of deflecting with either resist all or extra cold/fire resist w/2 pdiamonds. Build is simply all stats other then dex for max block goes to strength also ideally you'd need 1 charm with cold dmg and 1 mana charm to make sure you don't run out, dmg ideally would be 600-650 max with this build (well over 450 of the other builds)
Or my custom build, wpn I prefer strength blade talons, twitch prbuy, tarn pruby, shield sigon, angelics, death belt/gloves, rare war boots with run/walk and -req, same on switch shield as other build, same charms, but instead of dtalon, get a nm pa (basically required hell even better) 1 pt into prereqs of dtail 1 pt into flight max dtail for the lvl rest into tiger strike (w/nm pa should be lvl 19 pre skills 20 with hell) at lvl 26 which my assn is she's nm pa'd and does 5.4k max dmg with this, some notes 2/3-3/4 dmg is elemental so if opponent has good resists you won't do as much, this move is the only way an assn can basically kill a chickener, finding where there chicken goes off and weakening to that pt then releasing a full charge has a decent chance for getting the kill. Mine using no -req boots and mostly 11-15 life sc's has almost 1k life and has never lost a duel, dtalon kickers are quite pathetic vs her. (Cold dmg charm useful here as well).
btw if any1 wants to see my 26 I can always post an image if you don't believe the dmg that she does fully charged ;).
Tool_Master
06-10-2004, 05:25
Question: Would you recommend using eth war boots? Do they add more damage, or is it better sticking with just a magical pair?
raccaboo
06-10-2004, 08:02
its funny to see those that don't truly know how to make a kicker post. Anyways depending on you charms you can make either a high dmg kicker or a kicker like they describe OR my custom build kicker.
Basically heres the thing, if you have 30+ 13-15 life sc's then you can go with what I call the titan kicker build, basically I prefer twitch over 4 socket armor, socketed with ruby, and helm either 3 socket helm with rubies or face of horror with pruby. Gear is as follows, strength wpn, twitch/helm angelic ammy/rings, rare war boots preferably with run/walk and resists, bfists, rare st/life belt (can't be frozen isn't very important for kickers), ideal shield is a tower shield of deflecting with 2 20% ed jewels, and on switch a tower shield of deflecting with either resist all or extra cold/fire resist w/2 pdiamonds. Build is simply all stats other then dex for max block goes to strength also ideally you'd need 1 charm with cold dmg and 1 mana charm to make sure you don't run out, dmg ideally would be 600-650 max with this build (well over 450 of the other builds)
Or my custom build, wpn I prefer strength blade talons, twitch prbuy, tarn pruby, shield sigon, angelics, death belt/gloves, rare war boots with run/walk and -req, same on switch shield as other build, same charms, but instead of dtalon, get a nm pa (basically required hell even better) 1 pt into prereqs of dtail 1 pt into flight max dtail for the lvl rest into tiger strike (w/nm pa should be lvl 19 pre skills 20 with hell) at lvl 26 which my assn is she's nm pa'd and does 5.4k max dmg with this, some notes 2/3-3/4 dmg is elemental so if opponent has good resists you won't do as much, this move is the only way an assn can basically kill a chickener, finding where there chicken goes off and weakening to that pt then releasing a full charge has a decent chance for getting the kill. Mine using no -req boots and mostly 11-15 life sc's has almost 1k life and has never lost a duel, dtalon kickers are quite pathetic vs her. (Cold dmg charm useful here as well).
btw if any1 wants to see my 26 I can always post an image if you don't believe the dmg that she does fully charged ;).
I'm sorry but what is a nm pa?
Tool_Master
06-10-2004, 08:31
A nm pa is where someone rushes you from act1 - act5 only doing the neccessary quests in each act (ie andy, duriel, trav, meph, etc).
its funny to see those that don't truly know how to make a kicker post.
Yeah, and you know what else is funny? How arrogant some people can be...
0takuPryd3
06-10-2004, 12:26
rare st/life belt (can't be frozen isn't very important for kickers)
dtalon kickers are quite pathetic vs her. (Cold dmg charm useful here as well).
What?
10 characters.
@HelzCaretaker
then again you could also shut up cause an assassin with crap +life gear, max TS, the rest into BoS and an eth oh whatever the highest dam can be so honor lance can hit a LOT more damage than that and will kill chickeners a LOT easier. just claw-claw-claw-switch-discharge.
god i hate it when those that don't truly know how to make a sub 30 assassin claim that this move is the only way an assn can basically kill a chickener
get off your high horse. if ive learnt anything that is that theres always a better build to kill someone no matter how good you think you are.
DOH!!! :buddies: :drink:
@HelzCaretaker
then again you could also shut up cause an assassin with crap +life gear, max TS, the rest into BoS and an eth oh whatever the highest dam can be so honor lance can hit a LOT more damage than that and will kill chickeners a LOT easier. just claw-claw-claw-switch-discharge.
god i hate it when a sub 30 assassin claim that
get off your high horse. if ive learnt anything that is that theres always a better build to kill someone no matter how good you think you are.
Just one not, boots dont loose durability kicking! ETH -req boots can be pretty cool and pure bonuse style points!
HelzCaretaker
06-10-2004, 21:35
a) arrogant is if I say I'm the best w/out proving it, my 26 dtail kicker has NEVER lost a duel, basically every dtalon kicker has either died, chickened, or refused to fight me. 2nd I've beaten countless chargers, my 26 was even able to beat a lvl 30 eth upped snap charger so yes I do believe I know what I'm talking about. Oh and numerous lvl 34 dtalon kickers.
b) Yes they don't truly know how to make dtalon assassins. 1st reason ed jewels add little damage, 40% in a tower shield of deflecting adds roughly 32 dmg (going from 450 to 482 is a good bit of an increase for a low lvl fast build), 2nd off +1 skill from tower shield does what 7% ed? vs 40 thats real nice. 2nd off they have a build made by many guides that is the weakest lvl 25 dtalon kickers I know of. Getting extra 50% dmg is quite a difference from my titan build not to mention the fact that with good charms their life is the same as the crappy dtalon assns.
c) Baranor this is assassin build, the only way for a kicker to kill a chickener is with ts+dtail, lower lvls can kill chickeners with ts+max dmg gear though its much harder. I didn't say that this build is best at killing chickeners anywhere. An eth honor lance charger is crap imo since the range is so huge a martel or warclub is much better. And if you think they're that great I've managed to annhilate a few of them so yes I do know what I'm talking about.
d) Weakness of the dtalon/dtail kicker lies in 2 lvl 25 builds (besides identical builds). The 1st and most dangerous is a concentration barb, a good one with max dmg everything will have 1.2-1.4k life and do quite a bit of damage. 2nd is a zealot, with proper gear they can get 2k zeal dmg per hit, most decent would be around 1.2k though. Only way a charger could beat either of these would be a fluke. Only snappers have actually landed a charge on my kickers and didn't pack a lot of dmg. Even the lvl 30 eth upped snapper did 3/4 of my life per hit and could never get 2 charges off in a row.
No better build that I've seen for a 25-26 assn and try ts + eth honor lance see how long it takes to land a blow, I'd kill you 6-7 times over before you landed a blow from 1, so yes as an assassin build goes I don't see anyone beating them at the same lvl.
I'll be taking your head off from my clydesdale when you're on your little pony.
You know, sometimes you just run around and find idiots and never really find a good player, but then one day you find that good player and you start eating your words.
@ helz, so because you havent meet any kicker that could beat you, you are the best? then mine is the best aswell! hah! now i can run around being arrogant.
a) arrogant is if I say I'm the best w/out proving it, my 26 dtail kicker has NEVER lost a duel, basically every dtalon kicker has either died, chickened, or refused to fight me. 2nd I've beaten countless chargers, my 26 was even able to beat a lvl 30 eth upped snap charger so yes I do believe I know what I'm talking about. Oh and numerous lvl 34 dtalon kickers.
b) Yes they don't truly know how to make dtalon assassins. 1st reason ed jewels add little damage, 40% in a tower shield of deflecting adds roughly 32 dmg (going from 450 to 482 is a good bit of an increase for a low lvl fast build), 2nd off +1 skill from tower shield does what 7% ed? vs 40 thats real nice. 2nd off they have a build made by many guides that is the weakest lvl 25 dtalon kickers I know of. Getting extra 50% dmg is quite a difference from my titan build not to mention the fact that with good charms their life is the same as the crappy dtalon assns.
c) Baranor this is assassin build, the only way for a kicker to kill a chickener is with ts+dtail, lower lvls can kill chickeners with ts+max dmg gear though its much harder. I didn't say that this build is best at killing chickeners anywhere. An eth honor lance charger is crap imo since the range is so huge a martel or warclub is much better. And if you think they're that great I've managed to annhilate a few of them so yes I do know what I'm talking about.
d) Weakness of the dtalon/dtail kicker lies in 2 lvl 25 builds (besides identical builds). The 1st and most dangerous is a concentration barb, a good one with max dmg everything will have 1.2-1.4k life and do quite a bit of damage. 2nd is a zealot, with proper gear they can get 2k zeal dmg per hit, most decent would be around 1.2k though. Only way a charger could beat either of these would be a fluke. Only snappers have actually landed a charge on my kickers and didn't pack a lot of dmg. Even the lvl 30 eth upped snapper did 3/4 of my life per hit and could never get 2 charges off in a row.
No better build that I've seen for a 25-26 assn and try ts + eth honor lance see how long it takes to land a blow, I'd kill you 6-7 times over before you landed a blow from 1, so yes as an assassin build goes I don't see anyone beating them at the same lvl.
I'll be taking your head off from my clydesdale when you're on your little pony.
Ah, I see I was wrong in calling you arrogant, I should have included cocky, big-headed, patronising, pompous....
a) arrogant is if I say I'm the best w/out proving it, my 26 dtail kicker has NEVER lost a duel, basically every dtalon kicker has either died, chickened, or refused to fight me. 2nd I've beaten countless chargers, my 26 was even able to beat a lvl 30 eth upped snap charger so yes I do believe I know what I'm talking about. Oh and numerous lvl 34 dtalon kickers.
b) Yes they don't truly know how to make dtalon assassins. 1st reason ed jewels add little damage, 40% in a tower shield of deflecting adds roughly 32 dmg (going from 450 to 482 is a good bit of an increase for a low lvl fast build), 2nd off +1 skill from tower shield does what 7% ed? vs 40 thats real nice. 2nd off they have a build made by many guides that is the weakest lvl 25 dtalon kickers I know of. Getting extra 50% dmg is quite a difference from my titan build not to mention the fact that with good charms their life is the same as the crappy dtalon assns.
c) Baranor this is assassin build, the only way for a kicker to kill a chickener is with ts+dtail, lower lvls can kill chickeners with ts+max dmg gear though its much harder. I didn't say that this build is best at killing chickeners anywhere. An eth honor lance charger is crap imo since the range is so huge a martel or warclub is much better. And if you think they're that great I've managed to annhilate a few of them so yes I do know what I'm talking about.
d) Weakness of the dtalon/dtail kicker lies in 2 lvl 25 builds (besides identical builds). The 1st and most dangerous is a concentration barb, a good one with max dmg everything will have 1.2-1.4k life and do quite a bit of damage. 2nd is a zealot, with proper gear they can get 2k zeal dmg per hit, most decent would be around 1.2k though. Only way a charger could beat either of these would be a fluke. Only snappers have actually landed a charge on my kickers and didn't pack a lot of dmg. Even the lvl 30 eth upped snapper did 3/4 of my life per hit and could never get 2 charges off in a row.
No better build that I've seen for a 25-26 assn and try ts + eth honor lance see how long it takes to land a blow, I'd kill you 6-7 times over before you landed a blow from 1, so yes as an assassin build goes I don't see anyone beating them at the same lvl.
I'll be taking your head off from my clydesdale when you're on your little pony.
the chargers you duel are noob 2 hand eth snap? no block? bah . saying you never lost is being arrogant one day you will lose and die too even.
try some leet build level 27 eth honor naga chargers with smite to amp you on switch tweak with all max/ar/life charms to boot you will die
also try the eth honor knout zealot you will lose to a good one too. kickers can't compare to paladins around that level
raccaboo
07-10-2004, 03:46
Is his build good tho? He seems to swear by this build. Is everyone saying this build is not as good as he is saying?
Why is dragon tail so much better than dragon talon? It does higher dmg faster?
if you follow his build your gonna die sooner or later very easy.
in his build he is telling you to socket rubies on a twitch armor 3 socket helm with rubies and face of horror with a perfect ruby.
what he claims to call a titan kicker is basically socket str items like face of horror and twitchtro with rubies.
there are 3 kind of kickers that i know of
1.the real titan kicker build. everything to str and enough dex for maxblock socket all perfect amethyst in a 3 socket helmet and 4 socket armor. use 20 +5 str large charm.
2. the normal kicker basically all gear socketed with perfect rubies charms are 10-20 life scs depends on level
3. normal kicker but charms are all elemental damage ones. lightning is the most popular because they have the most max damage
kickers are cheap to make fun to pk/duel, but don't expect to kill any seriously tweak out duelers
stevethatsmyname
07-10-2004, 04:23
i give up on dragon talon asssn... honestly, anything with decent life and max block will die hard. If they have decent defense also, i dont think there is any way to kill them without being cheesy and killing them with enchant *cough sip *cough.
Vs. 2 hand chargers, sure it works you can beat them with relative ease... vs. 1-hand chargers or any decent melee.... (excluding glass cannon builds) good luck trying to kill them. Notice that Sip's build does around 400 max damage, mabye 450 if you go over the 125 str required for war boots. Then you have a small chance of crushing blow from strenght talons.
400 damage = 67 PVP. You are doing 4 kicks. So max possible in a set of kicks is 268, excluding crushing blow. Assuming 1 crushing blow in the set, that's 268 + 1/10 (or whatever) their current HP when the crushing blow occured. Assuming the target blocks 75% of the hits (a safe assumption), you can only count on hitting the target once per set of kicks. Each set of kicks takes the better part of a second. So you will be doing at most around 100 damage per second to a target with max block.
I've made three separate dtalon assns and was disappointed with all except my level 45 magekiller (wyrmhide boots, dual bartucs, most points in strength)
That being said, I think dtalon assns are fit for pking. In general most pvmers in normal will Not have max block, or good HP. Kicksins can easily teleport on top and dtalon confused Baalers...
This dragon tail build seems interesting. I'm going to have to go test that one.
a) bs, you'll die. i had an uninterrupted killing spree of 42 with my first charger back in 1.09, and I never claimed he was the best either. eventually someone will beat you. come back after you've racked up as many kills as shade, and you'll still know that you'll die.
b) use PERFECT AMYTHYSTS for godsakes, 10 Str adds more damage than 20% ED. The sigons shield isnt there for a paltry damage increase but can get you an EXTRA kick. THATS the damage increase they want.
c) blablabla? why the hell are you talking like i posted anything about chargers? I posted a pike-sin
d) jabber, orbsorc, tellycro, leaperbarbie, 1 handed charger... so basically, yes, a well build kicker can kick the *** of a 2-handed charger, but apart from the dam a 2-handed charger is a bad idea anyway, only suitable for pk not for duels.
no? go for a max dam setup clawsin, hello and goodbye. apart from that I said my sin could kill chickeners, not kill a kicker. kicksins are cheap variants of the REAL assassin, a max TS sin with godly gear and a hell PA.
now, try again, this time only talk about things you understand.
stevethatsmyname
07-10-2004, 11:44
barry, you forgot to go
*burb* yummy snack...
Honestly, i think we need a sticky at the top saying "please do not feed the bear"
no we dont. i like eating.
Cleglaw_Himself
08-10-2004, 02:44
The way I see it is that kicksins are great for fighting/killing 2-hand lvl 24 chargers and other random noobs with no idea using higher 2-hand pallies.
Everything else equal(e.g. Twin1 playing 27 pally, Twin2 playing kicksin), any 1 hand pally at lvl 27 beats and mostly kills asns no matter what skills they use.
Even full tiger asn's with 3 balls swirling have difficulty now with the pvp penalty + chickenhack.
Even full tiger asn's with 3 balls swirling have difficulty now with the pvp penalty + chickenhack.
That is true in that they have a harder time, but its still far from impossible. Early this ladder season, I decided to make a level 14 assassin, I spent all I had so early on and got her all +9 max jewels, lots of smalls of life, CK boots etc, basically she was one of the top duelers her level on east at the time (I never saw anyone close to as good, but its a big realm, and as we all know, "theres always a bigger fish")
She killed a good many chickeners, the trick is to sometimes take a few extra pokes without releasing, find their "chicken level" and then, when they rejoin, feeling invincible, get close to that "chicken level" and release... often it WILL kill them if you get them close to their chicken, then pop the full charge, they will often die.
And... nice Barry :clap: You should give me a PM sometime, or I'll give you one, about our new westie duelers (thank you Mark :drool: )
-Matt
raccaboo
12-10-2004, 06:34
Level 25-27 kicksin:
Skills:
Max Dragon talon
1 point in dragon flight (extra points go here)
4 in burst of speed (will be 6 with items, giving 39% ias)
1 in prereq. to these skills.
gear:
3 perfect rubied
4 perfect rubied armor OR artisans armor of life with 3x p rubies. (i use 1x perf amythiest 3x perf ruby because i like the cololr purple)
Angelics amulet and 2 rings
Bloodfists gloves
deaths belt
Sigons tower shield with "eld" rune in it
"strength" runeworded Blade talon, kris or schimitar (it must be -20 attack speed for the right ias breakpoint to be met) I suggest 2 socket blade talon (runeword is Amn-tir)
Two +1 assasin skills claws on switch (for casting burst of speed)
Rare/magical War boots. They must be war boots for maximum damage. You can get a good 20%faster run, +stats rare pair or just grab some magical crap ones.
Charms:15 life smalls, +5 str/dex larges and a few elemental (cold damage) to suit your needs. Max damage charms and jewels dont work with this build.
Keep in mind that Max damage jewels and charms dont affect kick damage, so be happy you dont have to gather tons of expensive jewels/charms. Elemental damage (from charms) will affect kick damage but it will not show up on listed damage. THis can be verified by kicking things and the elemental attack will show up. Enhanced damage jewels do work with this build, but they add very little damage. I find that if you want a damage boost, Switch from a 3 p rubied helm to a 3 P amythiested helm, this will add about 60 to max damage.
Stats with this build should be....
125 strengh with all gear on (just enough for boots)
Enough dex for max block (75%)
ALL vitality, put the remainging points in here
None energy.
A few tips when dueling:
Before a duel, switch to the +1 assasin skill claws and cast (level 7) burst of speed. Switch back to "strength" weapon and sigons shield.
Chargers are easy to kill. There are a few ways of really nailing them. I suggest saving your dragon flight (teleport kick) for the end of the duel, to surprise them. You can wait for them in a corner, when they charge you, block them and Dragon talon them. They should either die, exit, or run away. If they run away, Dragon flight right on top of them then dragon talon as fast as you can. That should definately finish em off.
If you know your opponent uses chicken (Exits instantly when you kick them) just forget it. If you really hate them, get your friend to enchant you, then kill em in 1 hit.
When dueling other kickers, its important to try to dragon talon them at all times. Be the first to attack and be aggressive.
level 30-50 sorcs are very easy to kill, unless they are especially made for dueling. Keep a 3 perfect diamonded shield in your stash to give you max resists against these ladies. They usually have low life and will die if you get a lucky hit.
A good idea is to get a Pimp merc. Act 2 might mercs or A5 barb mercs are my favorite. Give him a high damage ethereal weapon. Honor runeword is level 27 and has amazing mods.
have fun killing everyone with a dirt cheap build
you are saying a 2 socket blade talon and I'm wondering why. A blade talon is a very slow attack weapon. Wouldn't I want to use a claw that's very fast?
LuckyDwarf
12-10-2004, 07:00
Blade Talon is very fast, perhaps you're viewing it with a non-assassin? Claws are very slow for any non-sin character.
Lucky
Who cares....kick asns are cheesy and cookie cutter anyways. Forget asking for everyone elses build and come up with something unique and original. Then you can say the build is yours and then you can start making claims to being the best like all the other clowns here do.
p.s. Helz would whip any of you who argue with him. Period.
Who cares....kick asns are cheesy and cookie cutter anyways. Forget asking for everyone elses build and come up with something unique and original. Then you can say the build is yours and then you can start making claims to being the best like all the other clowns here do.
p.s. Helz would whip any of you who argue with him. Period.
looks like you do otherwise you woudn't even bother to reply to this thread. im guessing you jus kissing up to your friend or just post to piss people off
lets all look at his post count, my vote is its the same guy or as previous stated his friend. and i highly doubt he could kill EVERYONE. 1 thing I've learned is there is always someone better out there.
HelzCaretaker
13-10-2004, 01:04
cx_2 it would be wise to try and make some sense, I know I'm a damn good dueler, I've made a few original builds, something which few people can say. If I was azazaz which I'm not why would he have registered his account way before I did? Makes a lot of sense huh?
And senji, think before you post. Next time it might make some sense.
[QUOTE=HelzCaretaker]I know I'm a damn good dueler[QUOTE]
did i ever say u werent? i just said thats there is always someone better.
cx_2 it would be wise to try and make some sense, I know I'm a damn good dueler, I've made a few original builds, something which few people can say. If I was azazaz which I'm not why would he have registered his account way before I did? Makes a lot of sense huh?
And senji, think before you post. Next time it might make some sense.
that post wasn't directed at you.
but this one is.
first i don't think you make any sense in your earlier post either you say your level 26 dtalon assassin never lost a duel. never lost against whom? never lost against which class?
you are not the only person on battlenet that have the knowledge and skills to build/duel
i can say for sure alot of people are better than you, think of how many realms and how many people play each day.
it doesn't matter if you could kill countless chargers. anyone with a brain can beat a newbie 2 handed charger with a kicker which always hits him since they don't have a shield
duel somebody here with a eth honor/charger 1handed paladin instead of killing people on pubs and then claiming you never lost a duel with that 26 of yours.
eth honor paladins can beat any kickers from 25-30 range its just the way how the game mechanics work
try dueling somebody here if you think your 26 assn is that good.
if someone claims he never lost a duel with a certain build isn't being arrogant then what is?
your just a sop that thinks you own in a video game. don't ask me what is sop if you don't know lol
NightShade
13-10-2004, 05:01
1) To do well anymore you need to think up different idea's.
2) These idea's must do atleast 1k pvp per second to suceed at killing anything.
3) They have to be able to take about 750+ per second in damage capacity
4) Argueing on the forums is stupid. Take it to the moore.
your just a sop that thinks you own in a video game. don't ask me what is sop if you don't know lol
yup. theres no such thing as being the best ina game, ever. I have two friends who once controlled spots 2 and 3 on the original Decent list, and although good, they never said they were ubar either. Theres always a igger fish. I'm a decent pk, and a decent dueller with extremely good game mechanics knowledge, but i dont claim to be the best either.
xxsteelxx
13-10-2004, 09:50
Where did this guy come from?
pvp forum me thinks....they are all cocky over there
Relativity
13-10-2004, 10:15
@ raca, go with sip. I didn't even have to read his build in this post to know it would work for you.
yup. theres no such thing as being the best ina game, ever.
In some games other than diablo ii, that is not the case...
In some games other than diablo ii, that is not the case...
however we arnt talking about anything other games other than diablo ii are we? :thumbsup: :jig:
Relativity
14-10-2004, 05:57
Well he said best in A game, not diablo ii specifically.......
0takuPryd3
14-10-2004, 07:40
That Fatal1ty guy is the best at like every fps ever.
That Fatal1ty guy is the best at like every fps ever.
Only 1 vs 1 fps. He gave counter strike a try, but couldnt play on a team. same with UT ctf and tdm and etc.
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