Making an mf Hammerdin!! Help!!

[holabuster]

Hey guys, this is my first paladin. I plant to mf everywhere, mephisto, diablo, baal, cows, pit, pindle, the works. What equipment should i use to get a nice balance of mf and kill-power?

I was thinking something like:
Wizpspike
Rhyme Pally Shield
Ptopaz Shako
Ptopaz Skullders
War Travs
Bloodfists
Goldwrap
Resist All, Mana, Life, Dex Ring
Nagel Ring
Maras Kaliedoscope

That would get me a minimum of 300 MF. I would have +5 all skills, 70% resist all, and 30% fhr.

I could get a 5% resist all small charm, and the rest mf small charms.

What do you think? Should i get the 4x fhr small charms to get to the 5 fps fhr breakpoint? Should I trade in the bloodfists for chance guards?

Thanks for your advice.

[NovaBurst]

I use Chance Guards on my MF Hammerdin Pally.
I have Skullders, but I really can't take much punishment when I wear it. I was able to obtain an Enigma and it helps a lot. I can take more punishment and plus it adds teleport, which really helps!

If you can't get Enigma, as long as your resistances are good, then you could use Naj's Puzzler for teleporting. Or something with teleport charges on it.

My Hammerdin does a little over 7K with Hammers. It gets me everywhere I need to go even in 8 player games and I don't use a Merc.
I do have a little trouble with Pindel because of the charging guards, but besides that, no problem.

[pncwd]

I got pindels number lol, as soon as you go through the red portal turn redemption on, and as long as you dont move they will not get up, and depending on your redemption lvl will depend on how long it take to wipe them out for good. Once you get the ones closest to the portal then move in a little further. When doing pindel go to the door but dont go in, oh yeah put concentraion back on, and when you hear the charge start back away unitl you get all of them out of the doorway. Then its free game stand behind one of the pillars and hammer away, just make sure that your hammers are going around the pillar and not into it. Sounds like a lot but I can do pindel in under a min like that. My redemption is also at lvl 12 or 13 can't remember.

Ok so that had nothing to do with having a mf pally but anyways,,, here is my set up

lvl 91 hammerdin
balrog skin nigma
death mask delirum
perfect maras
wizzy
hoz
2x nagle rings (28%, 29%)
gold wrap upped
chancies upped (40%)
war tarvs (50%)
a dozen or so 6-7%smfc some with resist on them
1 or 2 other minor scs (ie fhr, resist all)
with gull and sanc shield on switch for full mf

I get right around 420 or something like that when I go to the switch for the kill.

[ShivonM]

All you really need is wizspike + HoZ. You could use any other piece of equipment in every other slot and still be able to solo hell. IT'S NOT THAT HARD!!

[Wurmer]

On my mf hammerdins I generally use upgraded magefist gloves, that + wizard pike and you only need an extra 10 % FCR from a ring or ammy to get to 75 % FCR which in my opinion is the best compromise between killing speed and mfing.

[Zardoz]

Ist your wizspike and get arachnids and GF. Ditch bloodfist and get chancies. Get a ring with 10% fcr. Add 7 smfc and pally combat charms as desired. At level 91 I hit over 400mf and 9.7k hammers, 75% ctb, 75% resist all, and 75% fcr and my merc has ~220mf as does quite well for himself.

[holabuster]

I guess i'm just not as godly as you all! I can't afford enigma, hoz, and ists yet (that's why i'm mfing!). Well from the info you guys gave me, I got the following impression:

Ditch the Rhyme for a HOZ. Get rid of bloodfists and get chance guards (or magefists with 10% fcr on the rare ring).

Other than the issue of costs, how should I get fhr? Thanks a LOT for your comments.

[pncwd]

What relm are you on and are you ladder or non.. Let me know I might be able to help by trading or giving you some items.

[Dilly]

I switch things around when I mf.

My kiilling gear:
shako
mara
2soj
arach
hoz
hoto
enigma
wartrav
trangs gloves

when i kill bosses i use
shako
31%mf ammy
2xnagel
goldwrap
4istmonarch
2ist baba
engima
wartrav
chanceguards

with my charms and such this gives around 750ish mf
but if i just change to monarch and baba(which saves alot of time) i get around 550, still pretty good.

i have 0 fhr and im fine.. every now and then i have to tele out of crowd of those serpent guys when finding baal but thats it. This also gives you 75% resists to all which is handy when dealing with ghosts.

If you can't solo baal then go for easier guys... get a tele ammy instead of mara and you'll be able to do diablo pretty easy. dont expect to solo 8player baal right off the bat.

[holabuster]

HOLY SHIZZLE!! That must have been REALLY expensive. I guess for now, I will keep to cheaper gear. That is, until i find something better (which means no Hoz, enigma, etc.). I think I'll use the gear that I mentioned in the first post but now I know what I should strive for ultimately once I become wealthier.

And PNCWD, Thanks for the generous off. I'm on UsEast Ladder currently and would love to trade with/get some starting from you. I appreciate it.

[Zardoz]

I was able to solo hell with not much better equipment than yours, but work on your fcr and +skills items as you get the chance. When you can go to hell pits and just stay there for a while for mf and exp.

[holabuster]

Yep, I'll probably hit the pits first but i gotta get some of this mf gear first. I'm trying to get the cheap stuff first like the nagels, goldwrap, bloodfists, rhyme. Then the travs/maras/shako.

Btw anyone know if I can put RHYME in a paly shield? thanks!

[Wurmer]

Don't try to over do it as far as % mf is concerned 250-300 is plenty enough if you have a decent killing speed. 5000-6000 k hammers should suffice. If you can get higher fine but that's not a must. I found pretty much all the unique but a few on ladder 1 season with a setup producing above mentionned numbers.

[[exile]]

Btw anyone know if I can put RHYME in a paly shield? thanks!

yes, rhyme will work in any shield. BUT if youre making a mf hammerdin... maybe you should consider the new runeword splendor?

splendor
eth + lum
2 soc shields

+1 To All Skills
+10% Faster Cast Rate
+20% Faster Block Rate
+60-100% Enhanced Defense (varies)
+10 To Energy
Regenerate Mana 15%
50% Extra Gold From Monsters
20% Better Chance of Getting Magic Items
+3 To Light Radius
Increase Maximum Durability 12%

downside: no %block bonuses or resists. so youre best off putting this in a sacred targe with resists automod, if you can find it.

//[exile]

EDIT: this runeword will ONLY work on ladder.

[holabuster]

Alright, thanks. I'll keep my eyes peeled for a good shield to rhyme/splendor.

I guess if I use the splendor, I can go with magefists for gloves and keep two nagels.

[holabuster]

So far, I have the following:

137 Def Shako
200% Skullder's
Wizspike
Rhyme Sacred Targe (80% Block, 136 Def, and Inherent 26% Resist all for 51% Total)
Goldwrap
41% Travs
Frostburns
Crap amulet and rings.

I was supposed to get HOZ from that one giveaway in USEast trade but the guy is not on.

UPDATE:

I got the HOZ!! A nice 179% too.

So here's my setup:
137 Def Shako (P Topaz)
200% Skullder's (P Topaz)
Wizspike
HOZ (P Diamond)
Goldwrap
41% Travs
Frostburns
Crap amulet and rings

I'm gonna get a Magefists to replace the Frostburns, a 10% FCR ring, a 30% Nagel Ring, and a pally amulet with +2 Pally Skill. This gets me out 305% MF.

What do you think? Also, I have a general questions about defense. It seems that even with my new gear and 75% block, I get hit an awful lot. My defense remains only about 3000 with Holy Shield. How can I increase this number?

And should I shael the HOZ and try to get resists on the amy and ring? Thanks.

[pncwd]

I was supposed to get HOZ from that one giveaway in USEast trade but the guy is not on.

179% HOZ

And PNCWD, Thanks for the generous off. I'm on UsEast Ladder currently and would love to trade with/get some starting from you. I appreciate it.

Glad I could help, I didn't realize that you were the one looking the HOZ when I posted in this group to start with. The free give away is on again, click here (http://forums.rpgforums.net/showthread.php?t=257332), I started with the first 6 characters and will finish them off before I start the next 6.

I posted my stats on my NL hammerdin, but didn't give the stats on my L hammerman so here they are

wizzy
lore in a great helm (with 48%MF shako for MF runs)
maras 26% resist all
HOZ 197%
upped GA 1os (not sure what to put in there yet)
39% chancies upped
gold wrap upped
treks (just until I get my war travs)
nagel ring 29%
SOJ
nothing on switch yet,, still looking for gull or 2isted ali baba

charms:
anni
40%mf gheeds
7 or 8 x 7%mf scs
2x pally combats

Stats
blessd hammer: 32 or 34 cant remember with all skill items on
conc: 25 or 26
MF around 187%
dmg: somewhere between 7.3k and 8.5k depending on what I'm wearing at the time. Cow killer from hell lol.
def: with holy shield about 9-10k

So he is still in the building process but my goal is the identical set up as my NL hammerdin.