Question about +venom

[Psykaft]

Ive heard some things about +venom on ur attack claws being bugged with psn% dmg off bramble and the like.........dunno really. Ive seen people wanting +3 venom chaos/fury so my intrests are peaked. Could anyone explain whats goin on here?

[ilkori]

They are lazy and do not feel like prebuffing their skills with buffing claws. That, or they don't know about prebuffing venom.

[Coffin]

some people also buff with CTA (battle order) or demon limb. so if they dont have to switch claws, buff, switch back, buff bo, etc, etc it just saves time.

[cpg]

They are lazy and do not feel like prebuffing their skills with buffing claws. That, or they don't know about prebuffing venom.
Wrong. Test in SP, used 2x+3 shadow disc/+3 venom claws and prebuffed slvl20 venom. Switched to chaos/fury without any skills, casted venom, and damage stays the same. This is due to % poison damage on bramble and trangs gloves acting as a "poison mastery" persay...check the sorceress forums if you need proof, same applies with enchant. +3 venom plain 3 socket claws are much more desirable than +3 s/d claws on switch, unless you plan on prebuffing fade/BoS as well.

[ilkori]

Test in SP, used 2x+3 shadow disc/+3 venom claws and prebuffed slvl20 venom. Switched to chaos/fury without any skills, casted venom, and damage stays the same.Were these 2x+3SD/+3Ven claws, or were they claws that only gave +3 Venom or + 3 Shadow Disciplines? There is a big difference.

My understanding of mastery with venom/enchant:
damage = base * (1+syn/100) * (1+cmast/100) * (1+smast/100)

base = base skill damage at time of casting
syn = synergy bonus; 0 for assassins
cmast = mastery at time of casting
smast = mastery at time of striking

Now, if you were to use some magical +3 SD claws to buff venom (and fade/bos/shadow), you could socket each one with +10/-x facets and get more mastery in addition to trangs/bramble. This extra 20% boost should make the casting claws more effective than simply chaos/fury buffing when they have +3 venom automods. Even better results could be obtained by using (very very rare/expensive) +3 SD / +x Venom claws with facets.

If I am wrong about something, please let me know; this info is consistent with what I have read in every assassin and sorc forum that I have been into.

[BIGeyedBUG]

Wrong. Test in SP, used 2x+3 shadow disc/+3 venom claws and prebuffed slvl20 venom. Switched to chaos/fury without any skills, casted venom, and damage stays the same. This is due to % poison damage on bramble and trangs gloves acting as a "poison mastery" persay...check the sorceress forums if you need proof, same applies with enchant. +3 venom plain 3 socket claws are much more desirable than +3 s/d claws on switch, unless you plan on prebuffing fade/BoS as well.

Maybe I'm completely misunderstanding you, but I think what you're saying is explained by a lower level Venom being unable to override a higher level. AFAICT, bramble, trangs, and poison mastery don't enter into your results at all. Or maybe I'm just sleepy.