weapon for kicker

[santasballz]

since kick dmg doenst depend on claws...
right now i am using: chaos/chaos or chaos/jade
since kick dmg doesnt depend on claws, should i just to bartuc/bartcu for PVP??

also, if i don't swtich, which would be better for pvp, chaos/chaos or chaos/jade

[Nomad_k9]

Well the magic damage from chaos does get transfered though.

[ilkori]

also, if i don't swtich, which would be better for pvp, chaos/chaos or chaos/jadeUse Chaos/Jade or Chaos/Tucs. The Magic damage/OW only gets applied from one claw (usually inventory left). Against melee you will most likely want to use some combo with a shield.

[santasballz]

if i use two claws, does the speed of the kick increase as suppose to just using one claw?

[ilkori]

The fastest kicks are the same, but otherwise it depends on the claws (for slower kicking speed). The base speed is averaged (usually). Details are in the sticky. The newest attack speed charts are in a thread with the word "newest" in it.

[turmania]

since kick dmg doenst depend on claws...
right now i am using: chaos/chaos or chaos/jade
since kick dmg doesnt depend on claws, should i just to bartuc/bartcu for PVP??

also, if i don't swtich, which would be better for pvp, chaos/chaos or chaos/jade


why use chaos or chop chops when u can use the mighty ' fleshripper '
its the best weapon in the game for both pvm and pvp for a kicker. i usualy socket it with ber, but some might do with more ow. its just th ebest weapon and this way u get to use storm as well.

[Groovehawg]

The slow from fleshripper is generally considered bad mannered. I'd prefer the magic damage from chaos, anyway. Then get OW and CB from other gear.

[turmania]

The slow from fleshripper is generally considered bad mannered. I'd prefer the magic damage from chaos, anyway. Then get OW and CB from other gear.


necros use marrow bug, palas use exile, 99% melee char use siggards belt, but fleshripper becomes a problem? i dont think so.

[Groovehawg]

You don't, I do. Different strokes and all, I guess. Granted, I haven't been into the dueling scene for awhile...mebbe slow isn't all that frowned upon anymore.

Regardless...I can't imagine the 'ripper outperforming chaos in most duels. Is it even possible to beat necros, hammerdins and wind druids without weapon block?

[ilkori]

Fleshripper would only be useful against VERY high defence melee that you cannot hit any other way. Fleshripper has only 1 range, which is a big disadvantage against anything with knockbac *cough*smiter*cough*. There are other weapons to consider PvP, and Stormlash is better once you get to that level in PvP... if you get to that level. Fleshripper's best use is against DClone.

[turmania]

Fleshripper would only be useful against VERY high defence melee that you cannot hit any other way. Fleshripper has only 1 range, which is a big disadvantage against anything with knockbac *cough*smiter*cough*. There are other weapons to consider PvP, and Stormlash is better once you get to that level in PvP... if you get to that level. Fleshripper's best use is against DClone.


i never make a pure kicker, kick are very important but i use then in combination with either light traps or fire traps and once an opponent is being hit by whatever traps you put in you go in for a rush kick kill with the fleshripper. most of the palas in pubs use, bugged belt, bugged tals, celghaws gloves, astreons, and all that gives a lot od slow, im talking about the smiters, and of course exile with life tap. but still against all those odds, nmy assa not using any bugs and only fleshripper can rip most of them apart, if they trigger life tap i get a problem, but not i have very good chance of winning.

i think it differs with your playing tactics, i like stormlash too, but i get the massive crow contol with my traps, and i focus on single enemy with my fleshripper. usually as u say dclone, baal in hell and all doesnt stand a chance if i use those.

[ilkori]

Yeah, the rules change big-time if you use a trap/kick hybrid.

[miyulight]

i love kickers, and with exp from this, i'd say:
Chaos // Fury // Jade Talon- for pvp
Stormlash // sanctury - for PvM

Fury gives 66% open wounds which is VERY good, it even beats the chaos magick damage often times. You should use Fury // Jade in some conditions :scratch:

but for PvM, stormlash gives 33% chance of crushing blow and 15% chance to cast static feild. its preety big to take chunks of hp away from the monsters espically baal.

im not saying in an expert at these, i just play around and this is what i find through my kicking exp :drink: