Frenzy with Berzerk synergy Q.

[rachil0]

Can anyone explain to me the synergy between berzerk and frenzy? I searched the forum, and I couldn't tell if it:

1. Added 20% of weapon base damage as magic elemental damage. (poopzor)
2. Added 20% of total physical damage as magic.
3. Converted 20% of total physical damage into magic.

Or some possible undiscovered 4th possibility. Someone asked me, so I'ma ask you! :howdy:

[rikstaker]

2

Rik :cheesy:

[WackenOpenAir]

sure it aint 1 ?
if 2, it would be the only skill where synergy bonusses are multiplied instead of added.

[rachil0]

I was thinking that it was 2 as well. The first mechanism is so weak it is not even worth it, I feel the 2nd one is much more viable.

@Wackenopenair: Sorc masteries and and synergies work like this too. Synergies add a multiplier to a base number, and then masteries globally multiply this number again. (IMO, weapon masteries should work the same >< )

[WackenOpenAir]

Yes i know that. They are masteries, not synergies.

[mstrnicegui]

I'm assuming for 1, you're referring the 20% magic dmg occurring in the same stage of the math as the %physical dmg... where it would have already calculated the total weapon dmg and then the +max/min dmg from gear and charms.

If that's the case, my vote would go for 1 as I wouldn't expect the berserk synergy to work any differently than the other synergies. I don't know for sure, but I don't see why it wouldn't work that way.

[rikstaker]

Got some sweeping to to do,I was in a hurry yesterday.... :uhhuh:

Under normal circumstances,i.e when using berserk,physical damage is converted to magical at the final stage,which is after the application of ed bonuses from skills,strength etc.,including berzerk itself.Moreoever,its converted after the cs/ds check regardless of whether its successful or not.

Synergies for barbs work in the same way as ed from skill,it gets added not multiplied,like in the case of blizzard synergies.

Berzerk damage is applied/added on the final weapon damage like all other physical damage skils,its converted to magical at the final stage.

So its actually 1...I just ditched it the second I saw base damage.Gui came to the rescue in time.Gotto be more careful.Its better to say final weapon damage,since only the ed on weapon applies to the base damage.

Rik

[Mehatesmaphack]

If you charge up frenzy you can zerk really fast i guess that makes them mutual synergies.