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zalt
28-09-2004, 16:47
HI. I have just found an ethereal executioner sword and is just wondering if
its possible to uppgrade it to a colossus blade. I havnt found a way myself
but i remember someone on this forum said it was possible to uppgrade normal items. I am non ladder BTW. Thx in advance

Halciet
28-09-2004, 16:57
Nope. Unfortunately, there is nothing you can really do with it. Pretty irritating, eh?

-Hal

jordy666
28-09-2004, 17:05
they should make a Quest reward to turn normal items into ethereal one's.
because finding a normal beserker axe with 15 ED is irritating :rant:
now im forced to use the cube recipe and hope for 4 or 5 sockets :grrr: .

-jordy :king:

Krushedice
28-09-2004, 17:30
they should make a Quest reward to turn normal items into ethereal one's.
because finding a normal beserker axe with 15 ED is irritating :rant:
now im forced to use the cube recipe and hope for 4 or 5 sockets :grrr: .

-jordy :king:

Of course then you'd have to hunt your tail off to find a zod rune AND then the socket quest would have to be dedicated to this. What are the odds of finding a LEGITIMATE ZOD RUNE on your own (assuming this is NL, so you are not cubing runes up to zod)?

jordy666
28-09-2004, 17:34
did you ever use your personlize quest?
neither did i.
so why not change it :thumbsup: into turn eth reward, it would flip the economy around though, eth gf's :drool:

-jordy :king:

Herald of Doom
28-09-2004, 17:45
so why not change it :thumbsup: into turn eth reward, it would flip the economy around though, eth gf's :drool:

-jordy :king:
:rolleyes:

If you mean girlfriends with gf's, I wouldn't want one of those, and GF could never be eth due to the indestructable mod. Making items eth would be way to overpowered, so keep on dreaming everybody !

HoD

squigipapa
28-09-2004, 17:47
Like Hal said, you can't upgrade a normal item, so there's no way to get a CB to make a runeword. However, instead of just throwing it away Imbune it. If you happen to get lucky with the rare mods, you can then upgrade the rare item and possibly have one of the godliest items in the game. I pick up the following items to imbune:

Eth. Crystal Swords/Dimentional Blades
Eth. Great/Executioner Swords
Eth. War/Naga/Zerker axes

might as well not let it go to waste.

Herald of Doom
28-09-2004, 17:50
Like Hal said, you can't upgrade a normal item, so there's no way to get a CB to make a runeword. However, instead of just throwing it away Imbune it. If you happen to get lucky with the rare mods, you can then upgrade the rare item and possibly have one of the godliest items in the game. I pick up the following items to imbune:

Eth. Crystal Swords/Dimentional Blades
Eth. Great/Executioner Swords
Eth. War/Naga/Zerker axes

might as well not let it go to waste.
Let's not forget eth winged harpoons and below or eth BB and below, with the right mods they're the throwbarbs/swordbarbs dream! Yes, I wish I had some godly javelin, throwbarbs are cool :D

HoD

zalt
29-09-2004, 00:20
Arg !! well i guess i should try an imbue then, thx fpr the tip sguiggipapa

Zigot_HD
30-09-2004, 16:57
Regarding upgrade:
what def do i get if i up a arreat face ( perfect 200 % ED and average of 175% ) ?
And how is ti compareed to a def of an etheeral arreat with ZOD ?
Thx

jordy666
30-09-2004, 18:17
Regarding upgrade:
what def do i get if i up a arreat face ( perfect 200 % ED and average of 175% ) ?
And how is ti compareed to a def of an etheeral arreat with ZOD ?
Thx
Slayer Guard has a base defence 93-120
so arreats has 279 to 360 defence assuming perfect ED
Guardian Crown has a base defence of 117-168
upped arreats has 351 def(lower than normal) to 504 assuming perfect ED
eth zod arreats would have (eth bonus is 50% extra base defence).
417-540 assuming perfect ED

-jordy :king:

rikstaker
30-09-2004, 18:31
wo! wo! wo! Looks like someone is all pumped up now answering questions with calculations and stuff,after that successful guide attempt. :uhhuh:

You are doing great Jordy..I am happy. :)

P.S I am still too lazy to check your math :yawn:

Rik :cheesy:
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ToThePoint
30-09-2004, 18:36
they should make a Quest reward to turn normal items into ethereal one's.
because finding a normal beserker axe with 15 ED is irritating :rant:
now im forced to use the cube recipe and hope for 4 or 5 sockets :grrr: .

-jordy :king:you cant use the socket recipe on superior items :)

...
perf eth arreat zod is 543def
perf upped arreat is 504 def - and average roll of 200% , 429ish def.

jordy666
30-09-2004, 19:10
you cant use the socket recipe on superior items :)

...
perf eth arreat zod is 543def
perf upped arreat is 504 def - and average roll of 200% , 429ish def.
almost correct :lol:
bout that axe, what should i do with it?

@rik :thumbsup:

-jordy :king:

Zigot_HD
01-10-2004, 03:40
Thx Jordy666 and Tothepoint, so ethereal arreat + zod is better... more def, lower req etc.... too bad upgrading is bugged for ethereal armor.. this is including helm i guess. Imagine Upgraded zoded ethereal arreat .. WOW!!!

jordy666
01-10-2004, 08:40
Thx Jordy666 and Tothepoint, so ethereal arreat + zod is better... more def, lower req etc.... too bad upgrading is bugged for ethereal armor.. this is including helm i guess. Imagine Upgraded zoded ethereal arreat .. WOW!!!
you got to remember that eth arreats requires a zod rune, and a normal upped arreats only requires a lem, ko and a perfect diamond.

-jordy :king:

ToThePoint
01-10-2004, 17:23
almost correct :lol:
bout that axe, what should i do with it?

@rik :thumbsup:

-jordy :king:no, it was totally correct - you didn't add the +1base def

jordy666
01-10-2004, 18:01
thnx broll.
so upgraded items gain base def +1 and then the enhanced defence is calculated or is the +1 added after all calcutations :scratch:

-jordy :king:

ToThePoint
01-10-2004, 18:05
non-upgraded get base of max+1 , upgraded get random within the range.
perf non upped arreat =(120+1)*3=363
perf upped arreat = (168+0)*3 = 504
perf non upped eth arreat = [(120+1)*1.5]*3 = 543

skygoneblue
01-10-2004, 18:49
:rolleyes:

If you mean girlfriends with gf's, I wouldn't want one of those, and GF could never be eth due to the indestructable mod. Making items eth would be way to overpowered, so keep on dreaming everybody !

HoD

Plus, the connotation of using the term "break" with your girlfriend is just flat out dirty! :evil:

Zigot_HD
02-10-2004, 08:12
A 200% ed arreat -> random % ED when upgraded
Ethereal armor loose the 50% bonus when upgraded.

that's the 2 things that keep me from upgrading....

RTB
02-10-2004, 11:18
A 200% ed arreat -> random % ED when upgraded
That would be random base defense instead of max base defense+1.

mstrnicegui
02-10-2004, 11:22
a 200% ed arreats will always be a 200% arreats. It's the base def that is random, which will give a wide array of values for the total def.

Zigot_HD
03-10-2004, 06:04
I saw a 199% up arreat - guardian crown with 370 def.... I personnally find it low for an 199%. I was pretty sure it's 370.

Zigot_HD
03-10-2004, 08:28
So base def guardian crown : 117-168
200% of an up arreat could be between 351 and 504 def.
the one i saw is quite a crappy one then: 370 def.

xpumafangx
05-10-2004, 09:41
What you should do zalt is make it a rare and get alot of sojs and p skulls. Then get these mods on the rare.

cruels
fools
40% ias aka quickness
Then elite it and put a zod in it.