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drizzt_trojan
27-09-2004, 07:51
Someone will use doom (lvl12 Holy Freeze 50%slow),so can i get 4f zeal attack speed under Holy Freeze aura?thanks a lots

izrafel
27-09-2004, 10:34
...? is this a question or..?
doom is for polearm class weaps only isnt it?

k/t
27-09-2004, 10:59
Someone in your party? Or someone you're gonna duel?
If it's someone in your party, then you can safely ignore its presence when determining how fast you'll attack, as Holy Freeze affects the enemy, not you.
If an opponent in PvP is gonna use Doom against you, then I don't know if you'll reach 4 fps Zeal. Just look up the IAS breakpoints. Using simple logic, you'll need twice as much IAS as usual...at least that's my guess...

Doom works in Axes/Polearms/Hammers.

Lunatic
27-09-2004, 11:03
IIRC that 50% IAS penalty is 50% EIAS. Which means it's really really hard to get max speed. fanat only adds around 35-37% EIAS. I guess it's possible if you have a WSM -30 or -20 weapon , but even then you prolly need quite some IAS + fanat in order to cancel it out.

I don't exacly know how much IAS you need with that HF on you , but it's quite alot.

drizzt_trojan
27-09-2004, 14:27
IIRC that 50% IAS penalty is 50% EIAS. Which means it's really really hard to get max speed. fanat only adds around 35-37% EIAS. I guess it's possible if you have a WSM -30 or -20 weapon , but even then you prolly need quite some IAS + fanat in order to cancel it out.

I don't exacly know how much IAS you need with that HF on you , but it's quite alot.
yes,i duel in pvp.IF top EIAS is Calculated before 50%slow, i wll have 75/2=37.5 EIAS. that is 6f zeal attacking speed.(37eias from Fanaticism /60ias/wp speed base is 0)IF top EIAS is Calculated after 50%slow,then i can get 85/2=42.5 EIAS.that is 5f zeal attacking speed.(37eias from Fanaticism /80ias/wp speed base is 0).
which one is right?

Lunatic
27-09-2004, 15:53
Well IIRC the slow from holy freeze is a sort of negative EIAS. If you have a WSM 0 weapon , and you use a lvl 20 fanat you technicly have a WSM -35 weapon. Now if you get the 50% slow on you from hf , you would have a WSM +15 weapon.

This would mean you need quite some IAS in order to cancel out the slow from HF. The only exception on this is a fury wolf who's attacking @ 7/4 fury. For some weird reason their attack speed isn't slowed at all.

Anger-DRS
28-09-2004, 14:16
If I recall correctly:-

Ebotd War Spike
3x/15 (x2) in a CoA
Bloodfists

:D

IMCL85
28-09-2004, 18:40
Well consider this way that doom in pretty bm if its use to abuse melee char. And probably u will find alot of those i-d-i-o-t in pubby where maner is not even a problem. They just do anything to win then the best way to go is just forget about fighting them since its not worth your time while they will always slow u down like a m-o-f-o and why would you be bother if you already know that they will win due to the abuse of the *** aura. So just quit the pubby and go play in clan honer for better and good maner games. And as for Izra I think doom can be made in a single handed weapon, and best bet out there now r zerker and ettin axe. Zerker is alot better then ettin axe over all since its base weapon speed is better then ettin so if you ever going to make one make it in the zerker instead of ettin.