Natalya's Claw better than chaos in pvp?

[santasballz]

Natalya's Mark claw has ignore defense right? so wouldn't it be better than chaos claws in pvp?? :thanks:

[Yachi]

Chaos is a claw with nicer stats and whirlwind :)
And I dont think ITD work in pvp.

[santasballz]

o, i c.

so nats claw sucks in pvp then :sleep:

[Trisk3lion]

o, i c.

so nats claw sucks in pvp then :sleep:
Yes nats claw sucks pretty bad in pvp but nat's SET work good with chaos on a ww assa for those who cant afford 10 shadow skiller and bramble!

[skygoneblue]

Bramble is overrated...
It has poison enhancement, poison resist, and...
... umm ...

Yeah, give me my Nat's Shadow or Chains of Honor anyday! :thumbsup:

[Zangeif]

Bramble is WAY overrated. I only wear one when I need the fhr, and of course I prebuff with it.

I wear Nat's with poison facets in most duels, and I wear enigma vs bowzons.

[skygoneblue]

And even with the FHR issue, Shadow Dancers give 30, Jade gives 30, and Bartucs gives 20. It's not like a quick swap couldn't fix that problem if need be.

[aznbboi16]

I think venom in general is slightly overrated. I would rather use a Duress for FHR, OW, CB and resists. Poison can be heavily negated with full resist and PLR, whereas OW cannot. But if you already have a high amount of OW I guess a little more psn doesn't hurt :)

I'm on a budget so I'm using a Jade as secondary ww claw, so I don't get a bunch of OW from Fury. BTW does OW add up from each claw? Or would you have to hit with fury to have 66% OW?

[skygoneblue]

If I was told correctly, the OW% that you get from your claws is the average of the two, then add your gear.

So, say I had a Fury, UMed Bartuc, and Drac's Gloves with Gores:

Fury 66 + Bartuc 25 = 91/2 = 45 + Dracs 25 and Gores 10 = 80%.

I could be wrong on this though - don't quote me.

Also, I think OW is capped at 66% for PvP. Not sure on that either though.

[Neuroff]

OW is calculated separately on claws so with that setup, you'd have 100% OW with Fury and 60% with Bartucs.

[ilkori]

Also, I think OW is capped at 66% for PvP. Not sure on that either though.That's the first time I have ever heard of an OW cap in PvP.

[skygoneblue]

Someone said it in a response to the WW Assn guide in the stick. Check it out!

[squigipapa]

I think venom in general is slightly overrated. I would rather use a Duress for FHR, OW, CB and resists. Poison can be heavily negated with full resist and PLR, whereas OW cannot. But if you already have a high amount of OW I guess a little more psn doesn't hurt :)

The fact remains that poison is the only of the 4 resistible elements that can't be completly negated through stacking resist/absorb. Yes it can be reduced by a huge amount but no one can ever completly negate it. since venom is over .4 seconds, I consider it to be pretty instant. No other element can do that. (Read element including fire/cold/lit/poison).

So you're completly right, it can be resisted like everything else can.. but it dosen't hurt.

:winner:

[ilkori]

I'm with squigipapa on this one. Not only that, but it's the only type of the primary damages (besides OW) which cannot be reduced via MDR.

[wangboBW]

first, as stated before ITD does not work on pvp or bosses. second, if you get a nat your going to have to get a chaos anyways for WW, so in the end it doesn't matter.