View Full Version : ED/Max armor works on a werewolf
mepersoner
14-09-2004, 03:49
Madman showed this to me today.
His ed/max armor does more damage when I equip it than my enigma did. It still didn't seem to do enough damage when comparing %'s, but it definitely did more than my enigma (I was level 92).
Madman showed this to me today.
His ed/max armor does more damage when I equip it than my enigma did. It still didn't seem to do enough damage when comparing %'s, but it definitely did more than my enigma (I was level 92).
The 160 e/d works, the +60 max doesn't I believe. (or w/e % it is -.-)
So mep, was this before or after he whipped your monkey butt wolf vs. wolf?
Garbad_the_Weak
14-09-2004, 04:34
Ed/max armors apply the max but not the ed. Thats why people make ed/str armors for certian builds.
Garbad
DeamonMonkey
14-09-2004, 08:05
So do pure max armours still work?
mepersoner
14-09-2004, 10:37
Ed/max armors apply the max but not the ed. Thats why people make ed/str armors for certian builds.
Garbad
Hey Garbad, try reading the post and maybe you'd have some idea of what you're talking about.
My minimum damage was higher than with Enigma at level 92. It doesn't work on paladins and barbs, but it works on shifted druids.
The 160 e/d works, the +60 max doesn't I believe. (or w/e % it is -.-)
It's exactly the opposite for other classes, but this might be the case for wolf druids.
Ash Housewares
14-09-2004, 10:41
My minimum damage was higher than with Enigma at level 92.
ooh, now you have my attention, very interesting
mepersoner
14-09-2004, 10:56
Yeah, I didn't have time to run many numbers. However, it was interesting both my max and minimum damage were higher, although not by much. The 160% might be the only thing effecting it, or maybe the 160% only applies to minimum and the 60 max to maximum, something along those lines...
Edit: Just throwing out "could be's" here. I have no idea how it worked exactly, if anyone actually owns some ed/max armor, they could test it a little easier...
Now, this begs the question. Who cares about werewolves?
No one, that's who.
<3 :lol:
Los Sin Nombre
14-09-2004, 13:49
Ed% adds only to min damage and max dmg only gets +max. Just like it works on all chars. Plain ed-armor is better.
inkanddagger
14-09-2004, 15:44
Ed% adds only to min damage and max dmg only gets +max. Just like it works on all chars. Plain ed-armor is better.
no, plain MAX is better.
Los Sin Nombre
14-09-2004, 18:27
no, plain MAX is better.
Max might be better than plain ED, but it doesn't change the fact that plain ED-armor is better than ED/Max. Which makes my statement true.
Also, not sure but I think ED/Str armor beats Max armor. Atleast when I tested it on SP.
ToThePoint
14-09-2004, 18:38
Still amazes me the number of people that still explain the bug wrongly when it has been known about since before ladder season 1.
As lossinnombre says, ed/max is bugged so that ed% adds to min - explains the increase compared to enigma.
The +max will be mutliplied by a large number due to the large +% from fury and how if used. (No need to test as it can be simply calulated)
It wont be affected by the 160% though and so its still bugged.
The +max only and 160/str or dex armors will probably both be better.. although ofc which is best depends on the situation.
Velocifero
14-09-2004, 18:57
exactly right, the ed part works but the min or max part of the jewels does not. i also heard u might actually do more dmg if u didnt have the max or min on the jewel at all.
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mepersoner
14-09-2004, 19:03
Still amazes me the number of people that still explain the bug wrongly when it has been known about since before ladder season 1.
As lossinnombre says, ed/max is bugged so that ed% adds to min - explains the increase compared to enigma.
The +max will be mutliplied by a large number due to the large +% from fury and how if used. (No need to test as it can be simply calulated)
It wont be affected by the 160% though and so its still bugged.
The +max only and 160/str or dex armors will probably both be better.. although ofc which is best depends on the situation.Thank you. I've always heard it explained another way, in particular, like this:
Ed/max armors apply the max but not the ed. Thats why people make ed/str armors for certian builds.A bunch of fools spreading misinformation.
ToThePoint
14-09-2004, 19:24
indeed :D
its explained in the pvp faq also about ed/min and ed/min/max (well i think it is)
~Kazama Fury~
14-09-2004, 20:44
YOU WANT NUMBERS I GIVE JOO NUMBERS!!111
http://forums.rpgforums.net/showthread.php?t=209788
Testing has been done on this and despite common belief MAX dmg in armors does indeed work. Although there is a draw back. The reason why people say it is bugged is because while wearing max dmg armor with a weapon with 400 or over max (such as BOTD and Eth DC) dmg its bugged and instead of giving +60 max it gives - 60. So max dmg armor still works as long as the weapon equiped dosent have over 400 max dmg. Not only has it been tested but Jim (DF) still uses max dmg jewels on his wolf and it works well.
ToThePoint
15-09-2004, 19:19
Testing has been done on this and despite common belief MAX dmg in armors does indeed work. Although there is a draw back. The reason why people say it is bugged is because while wearing max dmg armor with a weapon with 400 or over max (such as BOTD and Eth DC) dmg its bugged and instead of giving +60 max it gives - 60. So max dmg armor still works as long as the weapon equiped dosent have over 400 max dmg. Not only has it been tested but Jim (DF) still uses max dmg jewels on his wolf and it works well.yes max damage does indeed 'work', but its bugged as in above posts.
Did you make that account just to post that?
yes max damage does indeed 'work', but its bugged as in above posts.
Did you make that account just to post that?
No and I don't think you understand what I meant. Im saying that +ed% works on both max and min and the +max works also.
Velocifero
16-09-2004, 01:12
No and I don't think you understand what I meant. Im saying that +ed% works on both max and min and the +max works also.
it works, but its so unbelievably crappy, its worthless to have on any armor.
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Los Sin Nombre
16-09-2004, 01:21
It's easy to test:
- Take 160/60 and 60 max armor
- Put other on, check damage
- Swap armor and see that max damage is still same
Conclusion: doesn't work.
ive asked this question in the statistics forum and they told me right off the bat that the ed part is applied to min and the maxpart is applied to the max :P supposedly its a bug so i havent hel +tp scrolled my jewels of the whale armor yet.. just in case they fix it
Now, this begs the question. Who cares about werewolves?
No one, that's who.
<3 :lol:I do :hanky:
Nice to see Ray (mad) is still playing anyways..
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