My wind druid gear, ok for pvp/pvm? [Archive]

StewieGriff_XLT

03-09-2004, 02:09

Im buidling my 1st windy druid this new ladder season, and I was wondering if this gear is good enough for PvP/PvM.... (i'm not THAT godly but I do have SOME good stuff)

Um'd Shako
+3 Elemental Ammy
Wizzy
Um'd SS
Up'd 34 viper
Trangs gloves
Soj
FCR ring
Arach
Treks
Earthshaker/lidless on switch

I don't have any +skill charms as of now :grrr:

ALSO, is putting a point into grizzly worth while?

And stats? I was thinking....
156 str. (ss req.)
225 dex. (max block w/ ss at lvl 94)
rest into vita
base energy

any comments/suggestions/changes would be much appreciated :clap:
thanks in advance!

Rauthgar2

03-09-2004, 02:58

You're druid sucks like you :O

StewieGriff_XLT

03-09-2004, 03:05

Sorry that I dont have the runes for a hoto or enigma or something like that, I'm working with what I have bud, which isn't a lot. Level 87 blizz sorc (620 mf) has found all this gear, and haven't traded for an item for my druid, so I'll take what I find, and that's good enough for me, and no, I dont suck... :grrr:

Rauthgar2

03-09-2004, 03:08

If you didnt suck youd have cyclnone armor/oak sage

StewieGriff_XLT

03-09-2004, 03:22

Ummm.... :scratch: those are both skills.... which I do have... and they will be maxed....

20 Cyclone armor
20 Oak sage
20 Hurricane
20 Twister
20 Tornado
1 grizzly (with prereqs)

That's what im putting points into/maxing...

Rauthgar, you should go check out on some of those druid skills again...

BYE! :howdy:

dkay

03-09-2004, 03:23

ull do good against melee chars (some) and ull prolly die a lot against casters. with no gcs and no tele its going to be difficult for you to get around. but ive seen a good share of windies that dont use teleport.

theres a real good guide by fenris at the top.. u should take a look at it for breakpoints and cast rates too

StewieGriff_XLT

03-09-2004, 04:00

Thx dkay :thumbsup: and yes I did look at his guide, im pretty much following it with some variations on the gear ( i wish i could follow the hoto and enigma) but i have another question, what's the best to socket my ss with? Um (which was what i thought), or that -15%/15 res. jewel (his thought)?? Thx for the help again ^ ^. :clap:

Rauth

03-09-2004, 04:04

Ignore that moron, stewie. He has some serious issues he needs to get help with.

Lookin good pvm-wise and you could try a little pvp. If you find it fun pvping without teleport keep going. I've seen lots of windys on ladder do well in a pvp room without enigma.

Only get enough fc to add up to 100. After that it doesn't matter.
-req jewel with res would be better than the um.

Have fun with windy :)

Rauthgar2

03-09-2004, 04:06

Im no moron, im you in ten years, a fat 300 lbs albino

Rauthgar2

03-09-2004, 04:07

forgot to say korean in the last post*^^

Rauth

03-09-2004, 04:13

Did you just call yourself a 300 pound albino korean?

It would take some radical surgery for me to become that in 10 years :)

StewieGriff_XLT

03-09-2004, 04:14

Thx again rauth (NOT rauthgar2). I DO have a tele'ing ammy, 25/25 charges i could flip on, but do you think that is worth the -3 elemental skills I'd have with my normal ammy? And about the 100 fcr.... I'm not really sure how much i have right now :scratch: lol, so I'd have to add it all up, but do you have any other gear suggestions other then what I use (within reason, you know the deal, no SUPER godlies) Thx a lot!! (and are -15%/15 jewels hard to find?!) THANKS! :clap:

Rauthgar2

03-09-2004, 04:16

wtf why thank him and not me?!?!? im better than the origanal in like every way possible

StewieGriff_XLT

03-09-2004, 04:20

130% fcr btw rauth :idea: i just did the math ^ ^

50% from wizzy
30% from viper
20% from trang gloves
20% from arach
10% from rare ring
----
130% Total fcr (incase you wanted to see my math :spy: THX!

P.S If I should only have 100 fcr, that means I can easily get rid of trangs gloves (20%) and the rare ring (10%) total of -30% (100% now, I know, the math is getting ******** now, but stay with me) what should be a good replacement for the gloves and ring (not soj/bk, but pretty much anything else I should be able to afford) :howdy: thx!

Rauth

03-09-2004, 04:36

Use the tele amy against a bone necro that thinks he can prison you.

I would go with a ravenfrost ring for some cannot be frozen. Helps a ton when you can't teleport. It also gives 20 dex and 40 mana.

You could switch your gloves to blood fists(mass fhr) or some frosties for mana.

The jewel will be VERY expensive on ladder so just using a um or a -req/res/stats rare one, would be fine. The one my ladder windy is using has 10res all/-req/9 str/and 5 mf. My nonladder one uses a -req/30fire res/7fhr rare one. Since you are using wizspike and viper, you probably won't need much res, so just look for stats. If you don't feel like looking for a decent jewel, you can always put a um in or a pdia.

dkay

03-09-2004, 04:46

ur gonna have NO problem with fcr what soever because your using something that those damn rich windys dont have.. a viper ^^
id socket it with p diamond since um rune is a waste and ....... o nvm rauth just mentioned that.. and i agree with him on the bloodfists. dont be decieved by its low defence and commoness O_o i say its one of the best gloves for any build. haha good luck with ur windy =)

try to aim for 3500ish damage and you'll be able to kill your share of guys

StewieGriff_XLT

03-09-2004, 04:50

THX AGAIN RAUTH!!! :clap: I do have a ravenfrost and I'm inspecting the glove situation... (thx 4 the ideas ^ ^)

NEXT PROBLEM.... stats.... As I said in my original post, I was aiming for 160 str. ( for ss n stuff) 225 dex (i've read some guides some say no dex, some say more, im confused ><) rest in vita and base energy, i get that part (finally). A ballpark figure would do (if you're up to it ^ ^) :flip:

P.S. When I have earthshaker and lidless on switch, I'm going to flip to that, cast my cyc armor and sage and stuff (cause wizzy/ss dont got skilllls ><) and cast hurricane, the hurricane I casted with the +4 skills from the earthshaker and liddy will still stay on me when i switch back right? I've never tried that before.... thx again in advanced everyone... :flip:

dkay

03-09-2004, 04:55

THX AGAIN RAUTH!!! :clap: I do have a ravenfrost and I'm inspecting the glove situation... (thx 4 the ideas ^ ^)

NEXT PROBLEM.... stats.... As I said in my original post, I was aiming for 160 str. ( for ss n stuff) 225 dex (i've read some guides some say no dex, some say more, im confused ><) rest in vita and base energy, i get that part (finally). A ballpark figure would do (if you're up to it ^ ^) :flip:

why some people say dont put in dex is if your not going to be a dex windy but a vita windy, they sacrifce blocking for more vita which has its own ups and downs. blocks do well against barbs melee attacks while vita windys will do slightly better against casters. which ever you want is up to you but i prefer going with dex, though your life will be from 700-800 while a vita windy has 1000+ but no block.
160 strength seems a bit high but since your on a budget gear, and you can always remake your windy when you get better gear i say get it up to 156 (save yourself 4 points ^^)

Rauth

03-09-2004, 04:57

If you want any chance at all against a decent melee char you will need max block. I have found it WELL worth the points into dex.

Get enough str to equip your ss and you should be fine. If you have any boosts from charms or other gear then you can add less accordingly.

For dex, just add enough dex every level to keep max block. Don't add it all early on because you will want vita to help level.

Every point that you don't use in str and dex will go straight to vitality.

Energy sucks :)

I really would keep the um for something else since you use a wizspike and won't be needing much res. You could get a low res maras for a few ums.

Edit: I am fairly sure hurricane and cyclone will stay the same level but I can't remember if oak will.

StewieGriff_XLT

03-09-2004, 05:07

dkay

03-09-2004, 05:17

....mmmmmk..... thx again.... BUT (yea I know, another but, how annoying...) What if I only put enough dex for my wizzy (which dex is 75 i think :scratch: and that's the highest I would need then..) If I hand out enough damage.... mele characters shouldn't be able to touch me, right?(considering no enigma BS n stuff) So going VITA would be a safer route? (I hope ><) Thx for all the help peeps, I'll prolly get to the mass leveling tomorrow... so more ?'s n updates n stuff then.... :winner:

your idea is what many sorcs do.. get enough for wiz the nstop. but you shouldnt think that u can blast a 7k life barb before he gets near your.. you WILL get hit by MOST melee chars sadly to say. i know it seems like u can handle melee with your nados in your mind but trust me.. its a lot different in the real world O_o.

and wat i ment by vita windy is more "safer" is when going against caster since they dont need block. since your pvping more than 70% of the duelers will weild a weapon to strike you with. so dont hesatate to put in those dex points ^^

StewieGriff_XLT

03-09-2004, 05:20

so dkay, whatcha think about a ballpark number for dex while still having enough vita for taking some hits from casters...
(ballpark number for vita would be helpful too)

Rauth

03-09-2004, 05:23

Even my fully decked out windy doesn't hand out enough damage to stop a decent melee char without block. Feel free to try for yourself though. A good barb will take 10+ 6k nados to bring down. A good ww sin will take a similar amount due to clawblock. A good zealer/smiter/charger can take 5 or so and may lifetap you(making them damn near unkillable). Remember, you won't be doing 6k nados so it will take even more to kill them.

Consider this. Windys only get 2 points of life per vita. So you are exchanging about 250 life for 3/4 chance to take NO damage from melee.

dkay

03-09-2004, 05:26

so dkay, whatcha think about a ballpark number for dex while still having enough vita for taking some hits from casters...
(ballpark number for vita would be helpful too)

your numbers are perfectly fine.. just keep your block at 75% and rest into vita like rauth said and u should be fine.. usually stats differ from windy to windy.. dont get confused if yours are slightly different from others.

ill p.m you the stats of my windy later (atm my friend is using my cd key and is playing on my mage=/)

StewieGriff_XLT

03-09-2004, 16:41

Ok, thx for all the help!! I'm only 15 right now.... I just finished tristing, and no friends are on to norm rush/baal nm rush/baal me :grrr: so I'm gunna try to get to ATLEAST 50 today, and if i can getta nm rush I'll be 75 by tonite, so I'll give an update on my damage and stuff ^ ^ THANKS AGAIN!!
~Cj

dkay

03-09-2004, 16:50

in your really need a rush in any difficulty msg me when u see me around and ill be glad to, this goes for anyone in the forums: *thewomanizer

StewieGriff_XLT

03-09-2004, 19:06

thanks bro!! my accts. are Quantum7 (for mf) and Quantum123 (my druid is on this one ^ ^), I'll be on for most of the day leveling! I'll check my /f l and check if you are on and I'll take you up on your offer THX! ~Cj

Rauthgar2

03-09-2004, 19:37

you should be in school instead of playing games all day...

StewieGriff_XLT

03-09-2004, 20:35

Hey 'tard... IT'S SUMMER BREAK! ....why do I even bother to respond to your comments.... :scratch:

dkay

04-09-2004, 00:28

ahhh crap i forgot its new ladder session >< >< my bad i only play nl... erghh... maybe i should start lvling my windy on ladder=/

StewieGriff_XLT

04-09-2004, 01:39

good call bud, /m me when I'm on (quantum123 or quantum7 are the accts. i use) and I'll rush u and hook yo up with some gear ( i have 4 mule accts :clap: ) just /m me when u want and you'll be good to go, thx for all the help, happy leveling! ~~Cj

StewieGriff_XLT

04-09-2004, 02:26

nother quick question for all of you windy druid fans...

comments appreciated....

Jalals or shako?

shako- 2skills, mad life/mana, etc...
jalas- 2skills, mad fhr... i was orginally thinking shako, but do u think jalals would be any better? thx in advanced, laterzz.... ~~Cj
:howdy:

P.S. what order do I max my skills, im finally past 30 which means i have all of my skills now.... just in what order... (the one pnt in grizz is done)

'nado
twister
hurricane
sage (nvm on sage, i just maxed it :thumbsup: )
cyc armor
^ what order?!?!! THX IN ADVANCE!!

Rauth

04-09-2004, 06:48

StewieGriff_XLT

04-09-2004, 16:07

Heh, you already went out of the order I would have done. I usually max out cyclone, nado, hurricane(or before nado or at same time), twister, then oak.

I like shako for pvp, but jalals may be a good option since you won't need mana for teleporting or the skills for battle orders. I can't remember if you had enigma and whatnot, but if you do, then go shako for the reasons I just mentioned.

I know I maxed sage first >< (stupid of me) and now im level 50 and have these skills....

23 sage
12 cyc armor
15 twister
12 nado
12 hurricane

I'll max in the order of you know, besides the sage part (woops) And sorry no, i dont have enigma, i just have a 25/25 charge tele ammy just incase :clap: Thx for the help and I'll update ya'll when i get to like 75 today when i gettta nm rush then nm baal, i'll prolly have to solo rush myself cause no one is one :rant: So back to leveling, thx!!

Rauth

06-09-2004, 05:06

Maxing sage first just means you will have a bit low damage until you can get the wind skills up. At least people will like a maxed oak in baal runs :).

I love hearing:
"good god, nice bo barb".
"hey what the hell theres no barb"

StewieGriff_XLT

06-09-2004, 17:26

Haha, i know, i start off with around 600 hp then i get out into a baal run or something and i have 1300 hp now :clap: My windy is level 73 right now :uhhuh: and is dishing out 2k nados surrounded by a 600 damage, 50 second hurricane... SUMMARY: i do sucky *** damage, but have high hp/max block/max res... and I've only owned a few sucky *** chars. This gosu chargadin (botd, eth carpace, etc..) pwnd me, i did about l l damage on him with about 10 free nados :grrr: ... It's still really fun to play him though, and I was mfing this morning and i found a summon druid gc mephin ^ ^. ( I so wish it was an elemental)

P.S. I saw a kid using ravenclaw (or w/e it's called, the one with +3 ele. skills.) is this worth gettin instead of shako? thx in advance, peace... :thumbsup:

Rauth

06-09-2004, 22:25

I would only use a ravenlore for a fire druid. You can use it if you want, but it really isn't the best.

I would wait to do pvp until you had at least 4k nados(might require some charms). That will give you some decent damage and you should be able to kill a botd charger if you play it right. Practice makes the most difference after you have decent gear/damage.