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Judgez
01-09-2004, 09:23
any1 that is good on calculating? and how mutch str i shall use etc etc
My gear is:
Helm : giant skull str req= 106.. adds 30str
Armor 160/60 str req = 80
amu and ring cats and 2*raven doesent mathe huh?
boots=gores str req 94
gloves =rare str 110 adds 7 str
belt= bugg siggards str req 50 adds 15 str 25 dex

my inventori is 290s and 3,20,20s except one charm that is 3 max 20 ar 2 str is that str charm enough to make her naked? how mutch base str shall i have?
must i add some more str charms?

Thx 4 so long

Judgez
01-09-2004, 10:06
hmm 9 views and no replays come on guys i know u are better than me on this, i have tried on my barb but i failed...

det
01-09-2004, 10:36
Could be that ppl are not too sympathetic with someone who is loaded with the l33test of gear and doesn't even know how to use it. (not even going further here about all those 3/20/20ies and 290ies).

But you also forgot to mention your weapon (though I am pretty sure it will be a 40/15 WF...)

Judgez
01-09-2004, 10:41
i forgott to write that it is botd hydra...
and plz i have that discusions before so lets dont talk about the charms, why i mentioned it is becouse i wonder if i need more str charms in inventori...

well thx 4 so long again

det
01-09-2004, 10:50
any1 that is good on calculating? and how mutch str i shall use etc etc
My gear is:
Helm : giant skull str req= 106.. adds 30str
Armor 160/60 str req = 80
amu and ring cats and 2*raven doesent mathe huh?
boots=gores str req 94
gloves =rare str 110 adds 7 str
belt= bugg siggards str req 50 adds 15 str 25 dex

my inventori is 290s and 3,20,20s except one charm that is 3 max 20 ar 2 str is that str charm enough to make her naked? how mutch base str shall i have?
must i add some more str charms?

Thx 4 so long

Lets see...the way I calculate is:

If you get 48 str and the +2 from the charm, that is 50 to wear the bel. In which case you get 65 str. And that is neither enough to wear gores or the armour. And even if you could wear them, those items do not add more strength.

So with the items you listed, and the lone +2 str charm, I think you need to get 93 Strength.

93 str +2 from charm is 95.
+15 from belt is 110 (can equip gloves)
+7 from gloves can equip Helm,
+30 str can equip bow.

And i think you will be seeing your armour as you can equip that without the help of + str charms.

If I understand your question right, you now need to find a way where you are just below the req. to wear the armour... That would be 79 str.

The +2 str charm gives you then 81 str.
+15 from belt and you have 96. Enough for Gores, but not enough for the gloves. You need +16 more in strength charms.

+18 in str charms needed altogether.

But I used to be terrible in math at school :lol:

Judgez
01-09-2004, 10:57
hmm ok... thx 4 the help.. if i change the armour then? to another one whit lower higher str? or switch boots, this is 4 pvp this char is there any better boots? or i shall change helm? becouse i hit the 147 ias bp anyway or what?


i suck to @ math : :uhhuh:

det
01-09-2004, 11:05
Hehe...I suck at PvP - so you must hope for somebody else to answer this.

(but don't forget that your headgear can also have sockets, where you could add -req and/or str. jewels)

I think even if you lower the req on your armour, you still need to find the str for your gloves...and after that for your bow.

Lunatic
01-09-2004, 11:58
I know how to make a naked char.

1) You login to battle.net.
2) You make sure you have at least 1 place free to make a character.
3) You press the "Create new character" button.
4) You select the character of choice and give her a name.
5) Voila , you have yourself a naked character.

Panzer_Erwin
01-09-2004, 13:40
I know how to make a naked char.

1) You login to battle.net.
2) You make sure you have at least 1 place free to make a character.
3) You press the "Create new character" button.
4) You select the character of choice and give her a name.
5) Voila , you have yourself a naked character.


A very detailed guide I must say. excellent :)

Shanksie1337
01-09-2004, 14:26
wp u loony ;D

Kirsty
01-09-2004, 16:25
Indeed... naked chars were easily made in 1.09 when just a bow and good skillpoint distribution was basically enough to get around. Now you probably need some charms as well in order to create a succesful one.
Naked to me is still wearing nothing but a weapon.

squigipapa
01-09-2004, 18:00
Indeed... naked chars were easily made in 1.09 when just a bow and good skillpoint distribution was basically enough to get around. Now you probably need some charms as well in order to create a succesful one.
Naked to me is still wearing nothing but a weapon.

If he just means looking naked.. it'll be a little hard to do .. because the only way that a weapon/armor/helm dosen't appear to others is if you meet the str/dex requirements through the use of charms .. not other gear..

for example .. if your strength is 102, and you put on say an enigma archon, which in turn allows you to equipt your other equiptment .. then people will definitly see the other equiptment .. and actually now that I think about it .. they may even see the enigma, because once the strenght from it is added, you can equipt it without the use of charms..

Really, the only way others don't see what you have is when the requirement is strictly met through charms.. I currently have a frenzy barb, that uses 2 lightsabers, with all of his equiptment is 1 point shy in dexterity. So I use a +1 dex small charm to equipt the lightsabors.. no one can see them.. But once I hit lvl 85 and put on azurewrath's people should be able to see them, because they will add 10 to my attributes, thus making the dex charm un necessary.

Judgez
01-09-2004, 22:13
hmm i change my boots from gores to rare storm tracks +17 str. req 18 str


does this change anything?

Kirsty
02-09-2004, 08:14
looking naked to other people is easy, making a naked character that can handle normal, nightmare and hell with only a weapon is the real challenge.

squigipapa
02-09-2004, 13:48
looking naked to other people is easy, making a naked character that can handle normal, nightmare and hell with only a weapon is the real challenge.

:) I could only imagine.. as I don't think I'd ever have the gonads to actually try it .. especially HC.. :) Kirsty, have you ever taken a truely naked bowazon through hell? I've often wondered, what would be the best skill placement for such a build. I'm assumeing that it would have to be something that killed almost exclusivly with a skill like FA, since there would be really no way to meet any of the faster breakpoints etc. As well, on such a build is it just the character that has to be naked, or the inventory as well.. meaning no loading up on skill / damage charms etc.

Kirsty
02-09-2004, 19:28
I've taken three nakedzons through hell back in 1.09. One bow/crossbow, one spear/javelin and one tankazon type.

The main modifier of your weapon will have to be crowd control, unless you get it from your skills. With the bowazon I settled with a bow that had percentage to flee and I used multiple shot or strafe to keep the monsters under control dependant on how spread out they were around me. Of course valkyrie and decoy added their share in attracting monsters away from me and I used old magazon skills like ice arrow, freezing arrow and immolation arrow.
The javelin/spear type amazon used high plague javelin, jab and fend but also lightnig fury of course. She was more easy to play with since she had a shield available and I was able to get some nice mods out of that.
The tankazon was full passives so she could deflect a lot of attacks easily.

Right now it's a lot easier to make a naked character due to the synergies for damage bonus, but in a sense it's still hard since with the new monster spawning combinations in act 5 hell you're more pressed for resistance. If I were to make one it would definately be a javazon using lightning strike, plague javelin and perhaps jab if the weapon turns out to be highly damaging. Otherwise it would be a high level valkyrie.

squigipapa
02-09-2004, 20:03
Cool, What about a merc? doing this in 1.10 I could see using a holy freeze merc or even a might merc with a doom polearm, along with a delirium helm (confuse for crowd control) being a great asset. I mean, even on my straifazon, a delirium on the merc just keeps her so safe it's unbelievable.

Hummmm.. I'm getting more and more interested in this by the minute. :) What bow would you see as being the one to aim for on the naked bowazon? wws? the 40 resists, along with the 30 from anya quests would be nice, it's fast, has amp... for socketing perhaps a nef, to keep things at bay, then maybe a 15%res/<other mod> jewel. .. humm .. do I dare? :)

Kirsty
02-09-2004, 20:11
Hmmm... ou can take anything really as long as you pay attention to your opponents. I just used what I found.

Lunatic
02-09-2004, 21:49
A very detailed guide I must say. excellent :)
Well I didn't go really indepth with the strategies , still working on that.