PvP Enchantress? (dont just wave this off!)

[PsychoticEwok1]

this is an interesting build, which, suprisingly, does REALLY good in duels.

Max Enchant
Max Warmth
Max Fire Mastery
1 teleport

everything else... doesnt really matter.

i would put 20 tstorm, a couple in chilling or shiver armor, 1-5 in cold mastery, and the rest in light mastery.

energy sheild if you like to gamble... (we dont have alot of mana... so be careful)

you could even build this as a regular PvM build enchantress and switch out her gear (but trust me, theres alot of it)

Stats:
Str: enough for gear
Dex: enough for gear (or more for AR, doesnt matter, we dont get hit. often.)
vitality: the rest
energy: none... all we need to do is cast enchant, teleport out there, and fire a guided arrow. more if you are having problems, since we dont ave much +mana gear.

Wep:Widowmaker (+5 Guided) (maybe socketed with ETH (helps AR) or UM (open wounds) rune, if your super rich and only like damage, an OHM or 3xED/15ias jewel. also, firefacet.)
Armor: stick a bunch of 3xED/15ias (possibly max jewels, im not sure about sorceresses maximum bow firing rate) jewels in it
Helm: same as with armor, we arent really planning on being hit.
Boots: Gore Riders, or some other widely used amazon boot (no to familiar with amazons)
Gloves: probably steelrends or draculs or souldrainers
Belt: i guess the choice here would have to be verdungos, as there really is no specifically enchancing belt that goes here... we choose the cure all verdungos.
Rings/Ammy: Angelics or Dual Ravens and Metalgrid

charms... perhaps fire damage charms? is this modified by mastery when shot with a bow? if not, just get your basic run-of-the-mill-everyone-uses-for-bowazon-charms (AR, life, FHR would be good. dont forget annhilus.) also +mana charms would help, seeing as we leave energy at base.

but... since we are ranged, and dont get the extra firemastery bonus that melee enchanters do, we need some rich switch gear.

this switch gear is really rare stuff, im just posting the best of the best here (as if the first set of gear wasnt...)

Hoto (hexfire would work here), some sheild with as many +to [fire] skills as one can get, shako (or +2 fire circlet, doesnt matter), +2 skills armor, arachnid belt, dual SOJs, and a +3 fire skills amulet.

instead of a hoto and sheild, one could shop for a +3 enchant 2 socket staff and make the "leaf" runeword in it. that would actually give more to enchant than any weap/sheild combo.

Strategy: switch out ALL of your gear for as many +skills as you can get to enchant. cast enchant. switch ALL of your gear back to the main gear as mentioned above.

teleport around as your mana allows, and then when your enemy steps out, shoot a guided arrow at him/her. just keep firing till they are dead. dont let them get near you, dont let them get near you. if they do, teleport away and shoot some more. they should be dead soon.


your main problem is you dont have anything against fire absorb except your cold armor and tstorm, which probably isnt enough. put some fire facets in your gear (if you can... you can always put 3 3xED/15ias in the armor and 1 firefacet... dont know how much that would affect your damage, seeing as you are getting it from enchant...)

try it out if you are rich, i have seen it in action and played it, its really fun... and strong. this build isnt mine, my friend has one... (hes alot richer than me though) we sort of share accounts for MFing and PvP and stuff.

edit: can you socket bows? my friend's widowmaker isnt socketed, im wondering if you CANT or if he hasnt gotten around to it. if you can, i put in socketing suggestions.

[jordy666]

first of all.
Using draculs is considered BM in most cases, just like duel ravens

Wep:Widowmaker (+5 Guided) (maybe socketed with ETH (helps AR) or UM (open wounds) rune, if your super rich and only like damage, an OHM or 3xED/15ias jewel. also, firefacet.)
Armor: stick a bunch of 3xED/15ias (possibly max jewels, im not sure about sorceresses maximum bow firing rate) jewels in it
Helm: same as with armor, we arent really planning on being hit.
Boots: Gore Riders, or some other widely used amazon boot (no to familiar with amazons)
Gloves: probably steelrends or draculs or souldrainers
Belt: i guess the choice here would have to be verdungos, as there really is no specifically enchancing belt that goes here... we choose the cure all verdungos.
Rings/Ammy: Angelics or Dual Ravens and Metalgrid
u dont really have much resistance other then from metal grid.

teleport around as your mana allows, and then when your enemy steps out, shoot a guided arrow at him/her. just keep firing till they are dead. dont let them get near you, dont let them get near you. if they do, teleport away and shoot some more. they should be dead soon.
u have 0 fast cast so teleing wont be fast.
a good barb or pala should catch u and kill u.

charms... perhaps fire damage charms? is this modified by mastery when shot with a bow? if not, just get your basic run-of-the-mill-everyone-uses-for-bowazon-charms (AR, life, FHR would be good. dont forget annhilus.) also +mana charms would help, seeing as we leave energy at base.all the elemental dmg is multiplied by his/her mastery. so stack those steel sc of storms :).
probaly forgot something but the more "talented" pvp sorcs should point that out.

[general_tso18]

Wear magefists for gloves, as they increase your damage and speed up your tele by a couple frames. Also, for weapon switch, your ideal setup would be a magic orb with +3 fire skills, +3 enchant, +3 fire mastery, and maybe some +armor points, along with a lidless. That'll give the biggest damage boost.

[MeOnCrack]

I wanted to make a PvP enchantress as well, but was wondering if maxing out lightning mastery and having as many lightning damage charms would deal out more damage than thunderstorm.

[Ash Housewares]

you seem awfully concerned with AR considering you're using guided arrow, even if you didn't you still have some nice AR bonuses off enchant

and yes, you can socket a bow

this build doesn't sound like one anybody would be interested in dueling, running like hell and shooting, not the friendliest/most honorable/most respectable method, particularly with life tap

[LLD-Vampire]

too lazy to read all of that I read all I needed :)

Why not go for ES, you've got all those extra skills and your maxing warmth, also I don't expect you to be tanking many hits only getting hit 1-2 at a time more than enough to regen mana inbetween. I dueled an enchantress(widdow maker) on ladder uswest, she died.

[niomosy]

this is an interesting build, which, suprisingly, does REALLY good in duels.

Max Enchant
Max Warmth
Max Fire Mastery
1 teleport

everything else... doesnt really matter.

i would put 20 tstorm, a couple in chilling or shiver armor, 1-5 in cold mastery, and the rest in light mastery.

energy sheild if you like to gamble... (we dont have alot of mana... so be careful)

you could even build this as a regular PvM build enchantress and switch out her gear (but trust me, theres alot of it)

Stats:
Str: enough for gear
Dex: enough for gear (or more for AR, doesnt matter, we dont get hit. often.)
vitality: the rest
energy: none... all we need to do is cast enchant, teleport out there, and fire a guided arrow. more if you are having problems, since we dont ave much +mana gear.

Wep:Widowmaker (+5 Guided) (maybe socketed with ETH (helps AR) or UM (open wounds) rune, if your super rich and only like damage, an OHM or 3xED/15ias jewel. also, firefacet.)
Armor: stick a bunch of 3xED/15ias (possibly max jewels, im not sure about sorceresses maximum bow firing rate) jewels in it
Helm: same as with armor, we arent really planning on being hit.
Boots: Gore Riders, or some other widely used amazon boot (no to familiar with amazons)
Gloves: probably steelrends or draculs or souldrainers
Belt: i guess the choice here would have to be verdungos, as there really is no specifically enchancing belt that goes here... we choose the cure all verdungos.
Rings/Ammy: Angelics or Dual Ravens and Metalgrid

charms... perhaps fire damage charms? is this modified by mastery when shot with a bow? if not, just get your basic run-of-the-mill-everyone-uses-for-bowazon-charms (AR, life, FHR would be good. dont forget annhilus.) also +mana charms would help, seeing as we leave energy at base.

but... since we are ranged, and dont get the extra firemastery bonus that melee enchanters do, we need some rich switch gear.

this switch gear is really rare stuff, im just posting the best of the best here (as if the first set of gear wasnt...)

Hoto (hexfire would work here), some sheild with as many +to [fire] skills as one can get, shako (or +2 fire circlet, doesnt matter), +2 skills armor, arachnid belt, dual SOJs, and a +3 fire skills amulet.

instead of a hoto and sheild, one could shop for a +3 enchant 2 socket staff and make the "leaf" runeword in it. that would actually give more to enchant than any weap/sheild combo.

Strategy: switch out ALL of your gear for as many +skills as you can get to enchant. cast enchant. switch ALL of your gear back to the main gear as mentioned above.

teleport around as your mana allows, and then when your enemy steps out, shoot a guided arrow at him/her. just keep firing till they are dead. dont let them get near you, dont let them get near you. if they do, teleport away and shoot some more. they should be dead soon.


your main problem is you dont have anything against fire absorb except your cold armor and tstorm, which probably isnt enough. put some fire facets in your gear (if you can... you can always put 3 3xED/15ias in the armor and 1 firefacet... dont know how much that would affect your damage, seeing as you are getting it from enchant...)

try it out if you are rich, i have seen it in action and played it, its really fun... and strong. this build isnt mine, my friend has one... (hes alot richer than me though) we sort of share accounts for MFing and PvP and stuff.

edit: can you socket bows? my friend's widowmaker isnt socketed, im wondering if you CANT or if he hasnt gotten around to it. if you can, i put in socketing suggestions.


Your resists are going to be pretty lousy with the setup you're proposing. Your boots and ammy are the main bits of your resists.

Armor: Chains of Honor would be ideal not only for the +65 res but for the +2 skills. Less pricey options include Vipermagi, Duriel's Shell, Stone, Lionheart, Smoke, Gloom, Duress and Prudence. Vipermagi is always a great choice and served my enchantress on ladder season 1 very well. Duress might be nice, particularly if you're worried about having damage from something besides fire. Some CM points and this armor, doing 37-133 cold damage, might be of some assistance.

Helm: Kira's. I also like CoA. You'll get resists off both plus, with a 2-sock CoA, two sockets to play around with. CoA has a super high str req, though. Even a Shako with +2 skills and a nice life boost would be better then ED/IAS jewels. There's always a Vamp Gaze for DR as well.

Boots: Don't forget to keep an eye on boots like Sandstorm Trek's or Waterwalks. Trek's will give you a nice boost to str, dex, vit and a huge bump in pr. Waterwalks have a very nice life/dex boost.

[PsychoticEwok1]

heh, your all right... just thought it post this build cuz i thought it worked nicely.

not really an honor build, but you dont really need to run/tele around because its just "bang bang bang your dead" considering the damage ou can get.

your right about AR, donno what im thinking... how bout maras for an amulet and some leech rings (bul kathos) or rares with LL and resist... or dex/str.

that magic globe never crossed my mind...

sigh... the problem with having all those high end uniques: you forget about "jareds stone of fire" with +3 fire skills (forgot suffix for fire skills)

i've tried to tell my friend about things like this, he wont listen. "NO! HOTO pwnzores all your ***es!"

[badonk]

I have a enchantress with 49 + skills...She gets about 22k with two 5% fire jewels....The widowmaker is great vs casters I usually win telein since 1-2 arrows and its over. As far as being cheap...yup its cheap to kill at range..thats why I go in bear form to kill paladins/barbs and such...to give them a honorable death muhahahaha

[jordy666]

I have a enchantress with 49 + skills...She gets about 22k with two 5% fire jewels....The widowmaker is great vs casters I usually win telein since 1-2 arrows and its over. As far as being cheap...yup its cheap to kill at range..thats why I go in bear form to kill paladins/barbs and such...to give them a honorable death muhahahaha
+49 enchant or lvl 49 after skills?
and she isnt doing 22k because the fire mastery isnt applied like when you are melee'ing.
the beat form might be doing 22k though.
can u list your gear please? :scratch:

[Soepgroente]

Didn't even close to read all, but an eth rune in your widowmaker does nothing. Shael it or something, guided arrow skips the chance to hit formula so it always hits.

[badonk]

+49 enchant or lvl 49 after skills?
and she isnt doing 22k because the fire mastery isnt applied like when you are melee'ing.
the beat form might be doing 22k though.
can u list your gear please? :scratch:

Helm: Shako
Chest:CoH
Ammy:Highlords
Ring:Ravens (sometime I switch out for angelic..depends on who I duel)
Belt: Cant remember the name...it has a slows target mods..and sometimes verdango's
Gloves:Dracs
Boots:Goreriders...sometimes I use travs
Weapon:6 shael'ed phaseblade/widowmaker
Shield:SS

For prebuff:
Helm:+3 fire tiara
Ammy:+3 fire ammy
rings:sojs
belt:archanids
gloves:magefists
staff +2 enchant +3 fireskill...could do better but +5 is good enough
10Xfire gcs
anni
then cta bc bo
I think thats all of em

Still need a enchant ormus...and a +3 enchant leaf staff...and Id really love to get +3 enchant leaf orb.

22k or not..but 1-2 shots from widowmaker= dead caster..melee is another story.
I am currently rebuilding my enchantress to maximize the use of skill gcs. I working towards getting about +12 skill in Shiver armor and ES Telek. The nuse x8 cold and lighting gcs

[Bob_TheMadCow]

as a sorc in WB form you only need 95% IAS on the Phase Blade to hit 5fpa. Which is as fast as you can go. So thats 1 shael rune and 5 IAS/2nd mod jewels or just 5 sheals and a fire facet...

EDIT: and doesn't your secondary fire mastery boost only go off your current fire mastery lvl? So say for example you were casting Enchant at lvl 49, then switching to a setup with only +6 to your fire skills, you'd be doing 14k fire damage in melee, not 22k.

[Frisco]

OK, I have a Widowmaker on my enchantress (~6.7k average listed damage) and lit up one of my Tals sorcs (1k life, max-block SS, 12MDR Dwarfstar, 75% fire resist)... In test one, the test subject took 78 hits before the shooter ran out of arrows and in test two the subject took 49 hits before dying. Previous tests between these two chars have given similar results. So, how do you kill anyone in a duel? Even at twice the damage of my enchantress that is 25+ landed hits.


Bob_TheMadCow, where did you get your Sorc Werebear breakpoint info (FBR and FHR, if you have those too)? I just got my hands on Beast and have been looking at Druid Werebear info; are Werebear breakpoints the same no matter the base character class? http://diablo2.ingame.de/tips/calcs/weaponspeed.php?lang=english says that a Druid Werebear with a Phase Blade hits 4FPA at 108 on-weapon IAS.

[LovelyGods]

im bringing this back from the deep.


anyone have new info on this varient??/ new updated info ??

[handofg0d]

I will test this out myself. Mostly because I'm bored and I"ll play it while I get some more runes for enigma necro.

Basically I will make a variant of max eshield TK Lightning sorc:

40 Telekinesis
40 Warmth
40 Enchant
40 Fire mastery (does fire mastery boost enchant?!)
~20 eshiled enough eshield for level 40
1 all prereqs, charged bolt, lightning, chain lightning, teleport.

Str, min for widow
Dex, min for widow
Vita none
Energy all

95% eshield renders resists irrelevant, only poison and Open wounds will go through.
On switch, +3 eshield, +3 enchant, +3 thunderstorm (if possible). Memory staff giving
+6 enchant, +9 eshield and +6 thunderstorm total off staff.

Reach 70 fast cast for 9 fps teleport.

IAS Frames per attack Attacks per second with ward bow
0 % 16 1.5
8 % 15 1.6
16 % 14 1.7
27 % 13 1.9
42 % 12 2
65 % 11 2.2
102 % 10 2.5
174 % 9 2.7
Obviously we should go for either 65% or 102%

Gear
Widomaker, shael, 20 ias
Magefists
highlords wrath, 20 ias
1 X soj, max mana
1 X raven, need CBF, also gives dex bonus for widow equip
Silkweaves, for max mana
Arachnid mesh (venom charge will be used) for +1, fast cast, max mana
Vipermagi, 15 ias jewel
Shako 15 ias

reaching 70 ias based on this setup.

charms, mix of 100 pdsc's or higher (ladder), 3/X/20 SC, 10/X/X GC.

Thats the best I can come up with on paper keeping in mind that Widow takes 74 Str and 142 Dex, thus you want to keep your Str at 54 or less (assuming 20 stat anni).

Hopefully, damage from fire/poison and actual min dmg will be sufficient to at least chip away slowly at opponents. I will probably use as many max dmg Sc's or GC's as possible to achieve "real" i.e. non absorbable/resistable dmg.

Estimated life will be around 400 with mana around 2000 ? at level 90.
This should be enough to tank at least 1 hit from anything.
Blizz and FoH will be negated to fireball type damage because eshield will take 0 resist vs all elemental.

[Ryu_Khan]

Go shop a +3 Enchant staff with two sockets at Normal Drognana and Leaf (Tir + Ral) it. Doesn't take too long to find if you're dedicated and have some good tunes playing

[Grasseater]

If u build a PvP enchantress i recomend u make it a bear!! I made 1 on last ladder and she killed most meele chars except smiters and botd ww barbs.. I suggets u make her a tank!! with lvl 40 es and max TK + max warmth u wont really lose any life from a good pvp char! and with warmth u regenerate the lost mana fast!

I had my inv filled with mana/life + angelic combo sc's because ar is a big problem.. but its fun to play with that cirkus bear (es over bear :lol: ) just takes +5min's to prebuff..

Rgds
Grasseater

[brunzattack]

Sorry, but I'm kinda new to this enchantress idea.

But, how the heck does a sorc turn into a bear??????

[jordy666]

beast runeword

[xpumafangx]

The runeword will give you fant as well.